Evolution vs. Creation

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High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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AGOODelectronfie ld

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Jan 7, 2013
 
Cybele wrote:
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now you're just using semanTICS
Not all...the jihadist terrorist attacks on America were PolTICal-as in PoliTICal Terrorism".

No "semantics" to that.

Political terrorism is a form of terrorism (a tactic of violence that targets civilians) used to influence socio-political events so that gains occur that might not have otherwise happened by peaceful means. There are obviously different types of psychic terror, from religious and magical terror, to fear of the natural world. Criminal terrorists — those who use blackmail, intimidation, and the promotion of fear — are differentiated from political terrorists because the former seek to enrich themselves, whereas for the latter, it is a sine qua non that terrorist action is motivated and justified by the furtherance of an objective cause.( wordIQ.com )

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There is no single, universally accepted, definition of terrorism. Terrorism is defined in the Code of Federal Regulations as “the unlawful use of force and violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives”(28 C.F.R. Section 0.85).

The FBI further describes terrorism as either domestic or international, depending on the origin, base, and objectives of the terrorist organization.....( FBI.gov )
AGOODelectronfie ld

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Jan 7, 2013
 
Cybele wrote:
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I'm the one who brought up the "app" first so why are you twisting things around? Kids who can read and don't have smart phones must have access to a dictionary. Yes that was the point until you used some obscurity in your language. lol
Actually, the hard back editions of the mention of dictionaries came first. Try to stay focused.

So, MY point as stated first, is still, absolutely VALID.

Kids should have access to dictionaries...be it what ever means. I personally prefer the presences of BOOK editions as well, because no not everyone has instant access to internet.

Nor should it allowed unrestricted in classrooms.

That is part of the PROBLEM these days...too much drivel and USELESS technology JUNK, and off topic garbage, and NOT enough actual studying, or staying ON TASK...no matter what teh task might be.
AGOODelectronfie ld

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Jan 7, 2013
 
neutral observer wrote:
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Thinking negatively is bad? Many things should be approached only with a well deserved cynacism.
Politics is one example.
Science is another. One should always question new ideas.
Naivety on the other hand is bad. Like folks who think the absolute truth about everything was known to wandering tribes from the ancient Middle East.
Otay -boredum sets ineth now. Cheerio mateys lol.

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Jan 7, 2013
 
AGOODelectronfield wrote:
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Actually, the hard back editions of the mention of dictionaries came first. Try to stay focused.
So, MY point as stated first, is still, absolutely VALID.
Kids should have access to dictionaries...be it what ever means. I personally prefer the presences of BOOK editions as well, because no not everyone has instant access to internet.
Nor should it allowed unrestricted in classrooms.
That is part of the PROBLEM these days...too much drivel and USELESS technology JUNK, and off topic garbage, and NOT enough actual studying, or staying ON TASK...no matter what teh task might be.
We have a joke in education:
Drop a book? You pick it up.
Drop an iPad? You sweep it up.
TheIndependentMa jority

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Jan 7, 2013
 
MikeF wrote:
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We have a joke in education:
Drop a book? You pick it up.
Drop an iPad? You sweep it up.
Ohhhh that's not funny!

Shame on you!

NO DROPPING the ipads lol.
neutral observer

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Jan 7, 2013
 
AGOODelectronfield wrote:
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Actually, the hard back editions of the mention of dictionaries came first. Try to stay focused.

So, MY point as stated first, is still, absolutely VALID.

Kids should have access to dictionaries...be it what ever means. I personally prefer the presences of BOOK editions as well, because no not everyone has instant access to internet.

Nor should it allowed unrestricted in classrooms.

That is part of the PROBLEM these days...too much drivel and USELESS technology JUNK, and off topic garbage, and NOT enough actual studying, or staying ON TASK...no matter what teh task might be.
Of course we need dictionaries. Rely on things like spell check and you get a word but not usually the right one. More likely it will choose blew when you need blue or through when you need threw.
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Jan 7, 2013
 
Why do we need a definition of terrorism? We all know what that is. When we were supporting the contras in Central America and the Islamic mujahedeen in Afghanistan (Bin Laden and al-Zawahiri were on our payroll) we were supporting terrorists. The rebels in Libya and Syria are also terrorists.

Washington has a long history of backing such groups. We seem to prefer Islamist nut-jobs like the Saudis to nationalists like Saddam in the Moslem world.
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Jan 7, 2013
 
TheIndependentMajority wrote:
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Ohhhh that's not funny!
Shame on you!
NO DROPPING the ipads lol.
Blending is greatly preferred.

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

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Stinkin' manipulative trolls, can't stay on topic for anything.
:-)
Oh, I know I wasn't on topic for any of that, but you get caught up with distractions sometimes. It did result from an on topic discussion if that makes you feel better about it.
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Jan 7, 2013
 
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No... but it is the truth.
The politicians have been selling us out to communist China and to the Saudi monarchy for decades now. In spite of all the propaganda from MSNBC and Fox it is totally bipartisan. Clinton beat Bush and gave us more of the same. Bush replaced Clinton and we got more of the same. Now Obama is pretty much a Bush clone.
They all borrow from the foreign despots and outsource our jobs to east Asia. Both parties get their pockets lined by corporations who have subsidiaries in China and by Saudi oil interests and the crooks in Washington do their bidding. Why else would we be systematically targeting all of Saudi Arabia's rivals in the gulf region one by one? If not for them would we really be that interested in the Middle East?
Well, I guess that I'd have to ask if it's deliberate or just privileged kids doing what they always do, help themselves to entitlement, convinced of their importance "earning" the excess that they take.

When it comes down to it, it's our democracy. We still vote them in.
TheIndependentMa jority

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Jan 7, 2013
 
neutral observer wrote:
Why do we need a definition of terrorism? We all know what that is. When we were supporting the contras in Central America and the Islamic mujahedeen in Afghanistan (Bin Laden and al-Zawahiri were on our payroll) we were supporting terrorists. The rebels in Libya and Syria are also terrorists.
Washington has a long history of backing such groups. We seem to prefer Islamist nut-jobs like the Saudis to nationalists like Saddam in the Moslem world.
Definitions help keep track of various meanings, in things like, dictionaries.
Someone should send that youngster Jay Carney et al(or whatever his name is) one..so maybe next time, they can distinguish the difference between rogue (adj) dictators(noun), specific groups flying terrorism sponsored flags(gerund phrase), American film making(verb) antagonists, and collective mobs wildly (adverb) perpetuating acts of Terrorism, so they'll get stuff RIGHT- BEFORE they get on national telebision and make idiots out of themselves.
TheIndependentMa jority

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Jan 7, 2013
 
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Blending is greatly preferred.
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
LOL
FREE SERVANT

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#70331
Jan 7, 2013
 
The Bible tells us " IN the beginning God created the heavens and the earth". If we define create in the context the Bible is claiming, we could say the meaning is to bring into being or to cause to exist and all things were caused to happen as a result of God's actions.

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Jan 7, 2013
 
FREE SERVANT wrote:
The Bible tells us " IN the beginning God created the heavens and the earth". If we define create in the context the Bible is claiming, we could say the meaning is to bring into being or to cause to exist and all things were caused to happen as a result of God's actions.
Why would people believe anything that is allegory at best? The Bible is not a book of science.
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#70333
Jan 7, 2013
 
The only information related to the very beginning and what it was like when the earth was without form is in Genesis and we see that water was involved and also there was a firmament in the midst of the waters and it divided the waters from the water. If we were to divide water into its elements, what would we get?

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FREE SERVANT wrote:
The only information related to the very beginning and what it was like when the earth was without form is in Genesis and we see that water was involved and also there was a firmament in the midst of the waters and it divided the waters from the water. If we were to divide water into its elements, what would we get?
No, there is no real information about the beginning of the Earth. The history of the Earth is written in its stones. And the history of the universe is written in the sky. You need some scientific know-how to read these sources, but once you learn you will find that others read the same thing..

If we divided water into its elements we would get hydrogen and oxygen. By mass roughly 85 % oxygen. So what?
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FREE SERVANT wrote:
The only information related to the very beginning and what it was like when the earth was without form is in Genesis and we see that water was involved and also there was a firmament in the midst of the waters and it divided the waters from the water. If we were to divide water into its elements, what would we get?
Then please define the term "lake of fire" lol

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Jan 7, 2013
 
Some temple texts and modern books have said that the Lake of Fire in the Egyptian Religion is the lake that Ra would pass through in his daily journey in the Duat. He goes in the the west gate and exit through the east gate and after that, it would say that the boat was renewed.- wiki
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No, there is no real information about the beginning of the Earth. The history of the Earth is written in its stones. And the history of the universe is written in the sky. You need some scientific know-how to read these sources, but once you learn you will find that others read the same thing..
If we divided water into its elements we would get hydrogen and oxygen. By mass roughly 85 % oxygen. So what?
AND Hydrogen collapsing becomes converted into helium through fusion, and then there was star light.

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#70338
Jan 7, 2013
 
Subduction Zone wrote:
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Here, read this first:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abiogenesis
Ok...I read it...well parts of it...

And got lot's of 'mays''maybes' and 'mights'...and 'theories'....

But no absolutes...

DNA...RNA...is just like computer programming...it can't be done by chance...

Each life form, species, has it's own code...color, feathers, gills, feet, hands, mating habits, eyes,...

Insects, mammals, birds...plant life...

All, each, so complex...if you know and study engineering...you could never say all this programming was done, created, by accident...

it's impossible...

Lifeless matter has no logical reason to create life on it's own...

For the path of least resistance is always death...not life and conscious...

And matter always follows the path of least resistance...which would be death and rocks....not conciousness and life...

Quit resisting the idea of there being a creator...

Your disdain towards Christanity or religion, shouldn't blind you to the idea of an intellegent creator...

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