Evolution vs. Creation

Evolution vs. Creation

There are 222919 comments on the Best of New Orleans story from Jan 6, 2011, titled Evolution vs. Creation. In it, Best of New Orleans reports that:

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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“what we think we become”

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Since: Aug 11

above and beyond

#70378 Jan 8, 2013
TheIndependentMajority wrote:
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Well stop being one then.
(We the legitimate, honest earners that live within our means, rather than trying to suck off everyone elses-- have a name for those kinds of entitlMENTALLY warped and disturbed sub-humans--we call them obozoTICs. They're quite vile, and quite sociopathically Warped in dem dar duh, empty bobbleheads.)
The man in the house is the bread winner, not a loser. I do my best to get an education for myself and raise 2 boys who are honor students. You don't have the right to dictate how we should live and what lifestyle we choose. You are a TIC and you should be ashamed of that.

“what we think we become”

Level 5

Since: Aug 11

above and beyond

#70379 Jan 8, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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When you copy and paste from a source, you owe the authors the credit, thus you owe them a link. Otherwise it's plagiarism.
She does that all the time. She can't formulate her own conclusions or interpret what the source say.

“Nihil curo de ista tua stulta ”

Since: May 08

Orlando

#70380 Jan 8, 2013
TheIndependentMajority wrote:
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Read the citation and then do the work yourself. The world does NOT owe you anything for nothing.
It is common courtesy to provide a link to the article you reference.

As far as anyone "OWING" me anything, blow it out your ass, bub.
I *DO* work, am at work now, and pay my own way.

“Pissing people off since 1949”

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Since: Apr 08

Seffner, FL

#70381 Jan 8, 2013

“what we think we become”

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Since: Aug 11

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#70382 Jan 8, 2013

“Nihil curo de ista tua stulta ”

Since: May 08

Orlando

#70383 Jan 8, 2013
MikeF wrote:
Yeah, I got it...no thanks to "Info".

“Nihil curo de ista tua stulta ”

Since: May 08

Orlando

#70384 Jan 8, 2013
Or "IndependantMajority "

“what we think we become”

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Since: Aug 11

above and beyond

#70385 Jan 8, 2013
Kong_ wrote:
Or "IndependantMajority "
Well in that case, the majority SUCKS!

“There is no such thing”

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Since: May 08

as a reasonable person

#70386 Jan 8, 2013
anonymous wrote:
<quoted text>Christian Porn? Sounds like something kinky from Opus Dei! You're not trying to sell some to finance a new pope-mobile or something, are you?
If you are buying then I will try and find some for ya... I could use a bullet proof mobile throne.

“what we think we become”

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above and beyond

#70387 Jan 8, 2013

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Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#70388 Jan 8, 2013
TheIndependentMajority wrote:
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Read the citation and then do the work yourself. The world does NOT owe you anything for nothing.
When debating on the internet it is common courtesy for the person quoting someone to both accurately quote the person and to link a source. Creationists especially have an extremely bad reputation for quoting out of context and even using false quotes. Sometimes it is not the creationist's own fault, they tend to go to creationist sites and those have been caught lying countless times.

Whenever I quote someone or an article I follow this rule myself.

Here is an example. The story of Goliath is one that has grown with the telling, as have many other stories in the Bible. There is very good Biblical evidence for this claim. The source of this claim are the Dead Sea Scrolls from the text of Samuel, and nonbiblically from other sources. He was, from these accounts, only about 6'9".

Now that height makes a lot more sense. You can still be a warrior when you are that tall. If fact you would be called a "giant" at 6'9"when the average height was probably much closer to 5'2" than the current heights of men. At 9'9" you would be over nine inches taller than the tallest man on record. And he, as all other giants, ran afoul of the square/cube law and had trouble walking, let alone fighting. A 9'9" giant would never be a fearsome warrior. Back then or even today.

Oops, almost broke my rule:
Goliath's height

Goliath laughs at David
Goliath's stature grew at the hand of narrators or scribes: the oldest manuscripts the Dead Sea Scrolls text of Samuel, the first-century historian Josephus, and the fourth century Septuagint manuscripts all give his height as "four cubits and a span" (6 feet 9 inches or 2.06 m); later manuscripts increase this to "six cubits and a span" (9 feet 9 inches or 2.97 m).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goliath

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Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#70389 Jan 8, 2013
Very strange. I don't know where that snippet "Goliath laughs at David" came from. I did a simple copy and paste from the Wiki article I mentioned and that phrase somehow snuck in there.
PlayDoh

London, KY

#70390 Jan 8, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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When you copy and paste from a source, you owe the authors the credit, thus you owe them a link. Otherwise it's plagiarism.

There was author NO author listed, but rather instead the source of the original article, a source which often times uses more than just one writer per article, thus it claims rights of the articles origins.

Sorry YOU missed that part. That is why the trained (and myself) personally cite things-rather than to LAMELY try to act like they had hand in writing them. Anything else is kind of like wikistoopedia level then-mere copy/paste REWRITES of what someone else has already written

Actually kind of DUHm.(why not just do pages of citations (bibliographies) rather than restating/rewriting (which is actually plagerism in iteself) what others have already been written.
There's nothing more laughable, than some loser, trying to act like they originated any writing, that someone else wrote.

Especially when the writing might've been deemed NOT "so gooDUH" only F worthy LOL.

(Idiots are good for a laugh sometimes though!)
TheIndependentMa jority

London, KY

#70391 Jan 8, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
<quoted text>
When debating on the internet it is common courtesy for the person quoting someone to both accurately quote the person and to link a source. Creationists especially have an extremely bad reputation for quoting out of context and even using false quotes. Sometimes it is not the creationist's own fault, they tend to go to creationist sites and those have been caught lying countless times.
Whenever I quote someone or an article I follow this rule myself.
Here is an example. The story of Goliath is one that has grown with the telling, as have many other stories in the Bible. There is very good Biblical evidence for this claim. The source of this claim are the Dead Sea Scrolls from the text of Samuel, and nonbiblically from other sources. He was, from these accounts, only about 6'9".
Now that height makes a lot more sense. You can still be a warrior when you are that tall. If fact you would be called a "giant" at 6'9"when the average height was probably much closer to 5'2" than the current heights of men. At 9'9" you would be over nine inches taller than the tallest man on record. And he, as all other giants, ran afoul of the square/cube law and had trouble walking, let alone fighting. A 9'9" giant would never be a fearsome warrior. Back then or even today.
Oops, almost broke my rule:
<quoted text>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goliath
Maybe I'd rather see SOME of them have to actually DO THE WORK in having to dig a little for it, off of their OWN efforts.

Link supplied, courtesy perhaps, but NOT officially mandatory.

(especially for something that already had more than enough info supplied, a trained monkey could've found it, with one eye shut.)

And what do you see at the bottom of wikistoopdia pages?

That's right-the only things that SAVE them, from being nothing but pages of abject plagiarism. Resources used, in redoing what had already been done.:-)
TheIndependentMa jority

London, KY

#70392 Jan 8, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
<quoted text>
When debating on the internet it is common courtesy for the person quoting someone to both accurately quote the person and to link a source. Creationists especially have an extremely bad reputation for quoting out of context and even using false quotes. Sometimes it is not the creationist's own fault, they tend to go to creationist sites and those have been caught lying countless times.
Whenever I quote someone or an article I follow this rule myself.
Here is an example. The story of Goliath is one that has grown with the telling, as have many other stories in the Bible. There is very good Biblical evidence for this claim. The source of this claim are the Dead Sea Scrolls from the text of Samuel, and nonbiblically from other sources. He was, from these accounts, only about 6'9".
Now that height makes a lot more sense. You can still be a warrior when you are that tall. If fact you would be called a "giant" at 6'9"when the average height was probably much closer to 5'2" than the current heights of men. At 9'9" you would be over nine inches taller than the tallest man on record. And he, as all other giants, ran afoul of the square/cube law and had trouble walking, let alone fighting. A 9'9" giant would never be a fearsome warrior. Back then or even today.
Oops, almost broke my rule:
<quoted text>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goliath
(you should've seen the pea growing seasons mention on the Matterhorn lol)
TheIndependentMa jority

London, KY

#70393 Jan 8, 2013
Cybele wrote:
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The man in the house is the bread winner, not a loser. I do my best to get an education for myself and raise 2 boys who are honor students. You don't have the right to dictate how we should live and what lifestyle we choose. You are a TIC and you should be ashamed of that.
Well that's nice, it's always nice when our children are talented, and do well isn't it. I know I am very proud of mine, and their accomplishements too.
Not sure what tangent you're going off on with the rest of your rantings though-maye just projecting your own life frustration-not my problem, so don't dump it on me!!
And your TIC thing-IS "plagiarism", as in UN- original. Try and get that right from now on too, mmk? Thx.

“I Am No One Else”

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Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#70394 Jan 8, 2013
PlayDoh wrote:
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There was author NO author listed, but rather instead the source of the original article, a source which often times uses more than just one writer per article, thus it claims rights of the articles origins.
Sorry YOU missed that part. That is why the trained (and myself) personally cite things-rather than to LAMELY try to act like they had hand in writing them. Anything else is kind of like wikistoopedia level then-mere copy/paste REWRITES of what someone else has already written
Actually kind of DUHm.(why not just do pages of citations (bibliographies) rather than restating/rewriting (which is actually plagerism in iteself) what others have already been written.
There's nothing more laughable, than some loser, trying to act like they originated any writing, that someone else wrote.
Especially when the writing might've been deemed NOT "so gooDUH" only F worthy LOL.
(Idiots are good for a laugh sometimes though!)
That is why you post the link. You did not write it, thus without the link, you are the plagiarizer.
TheIndependentMa jority

London, KY

#70395 Jan 8, 2013
Cybele wrote:
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She does that all the time. She can't formulate her own conclusions or interpret what the source say.
Sorry YOU missed the correct citation. I don't do wikistoopedia level ignorance...OR plagiarism.
TheIndependentMa jority

London, KY

#70396 Jan 8, 2013
MikeF wrote:
REALITY.(A.P.)
Ben Hartman, July 29, 2010, Jerusalem Post.
TheIndependentMa jority

London, KY

#70397 Jan 8, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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That is why you post the link. You did not write it, thus without the link, you are the plagiarizer.
I did, Sorry you missed it. Next time, maybe try reading all the way to the bottom?

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