Evolution vs. Creation

There are 20 comments on the Best of New Orleans story from Jan 6, 2011, titled Evolution vs. Creation. In it, Best of New Orleans reports that:

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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AGOODelectronfie ld

Somerset, KY

#70310 Jan 7, 2013
neutral observer wrote:
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What do good and bad really mean? The meanings of both terms is totally subjective. Genghis Khan probably thought that uniting much of Asia (...and into eastern Europe) was a good thing. The idiots burning suspected witches at the stake certainly felt they were doing good. During the Civil War both pro slavery people and abolitionists could quote scripture to prove God was on their side.
Most people are out to take care of themselves and their families... not to do good or evil.
And well they should.(take care of their families!)

“what we think we become”

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Since: Aug 11

above and beyond

#70311 Jan 7, 2013
AGOODelectronfield wrote:
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Seriously?
See: 9/11 attacks on the U.S.
now you're just using semanTICS
AGOODelectronfie ld

Somerset, KY

#70312 Jan 7, 2013
DanFromSmithville wrote:
<quoted text>No you aren't the only one. It isn't the first time I have noticed either. That comment about a gun weilding child killer is his hero because he killed himself was over the top. It is interesting that the babble became more incoherent when I went and found my post that set him off. There was nothing in it about my attacking a mentally handicapped person as he accused. It was very general and only an idiot would read what he read into it. I suppose the babble was the only real response he could give without admitting his stupidity.
It looks like you may be right. He is some kind of troll. As near as I can determine he made what seems like an admission of baiting you. I would call that being a troll.
I think I have made my point with him whether he wants to accept it or not. He is like some of the whackier creationists on these threads. They declare victory in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary and nothing you post will change that.
Stinkin' manipulative trolls, can't stay on topic for anything.

:-)

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#70313 Jan 7, 2013
AGOODelectronfield wrote:
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No, TICS are pests, and I am not "used" to "kill" anything, is that some sort of delusion? So why would everyone carry a dictionary, in the digital age, when even 8 year olds can find dictionary apps?
I'm the one who brought up the "app" first so why are you twisting things around? Kids who can read and don't have smart phones must have access to a dictionary. Yes that was the point until you used some obscurity in your language. lol
AGOODelectronfie ld

Somerset, KY

#70314 Jan 7, 2013
Cybele wrote:
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I'm not talking about good or evil. I said good or bad. Ex. Good can mean acquiring or developing skills and bad can mean thinking negatively.
Acquiring skills to use for GOOD, would be a "good". Using Science to make the world a BETTER place for example, would be good. TO use the same for bad, would be "bad". Al quada and the terorists who attacked America with learned " avaiation skills" for an example, is bad.

Everyone has negative thoughts, some are due to chemical imbalance, environmental factors, and a myriad of other reasons. That doesn't make necessarilythem "good" or "bad". Acting upon them in ways that would hurt themselves, or others, being the key difference there.
neutral observer

Lake Worth, FL

#70315 Jan 7, 2013
Cybele wrote:
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I'm not talking about good or evil. I said good or bad. Ex. Good can mean acquiring or developing skills and bad can mean thinking negatively.
Thinking negatively is bad? Many things should be approached only with a well deserved cynacism.

Politics is one example.

Science is another. One should always question new ideas.

Naivety on the other hand is bad. Like folks who think the absolute truth about everything was known to wandering tribes from the ancient Middle East.
AGOODelectronfie ld

Somerset, KY

#70316 Jan 7, 2013
The Dude wrote:
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Theism and atheism are COMPLETELY irrelevant to science.
Huh, that sounds familiar too lol.
AGOODelectronfie ld

Somerset, KY

#70317 Jan 7, 2013
The Dude wrote:
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To the casual listener it sounds like apologetics for Shubie's quantum god-poofing.
That's why the study of electron fields.

"In the beginning, there WAS light".

Tsk, and sigh.
AGOODelectronfie ld

Somerset, KY

#70318 Jan 7, 2013
Cybele wrote:
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now you're just using semanTICS
Not all...the jihadist terrorist attacks on America were PolTICal-as in PoliTICal Terrorism".

No "semantics" to that.

Political terrorism is a form of terrorism (a tactic of violence that targets civilians) used to influence socio-political events so that gains occur that might not have otherwise happened by peaceful means. There are obviously different types of psychic terror, from religious and magical terror, to fear of the natural world. Criminal terrorists — those who use blackmail, intimidation, and the promotion of fear — are differentiated from political terrorists because the former seek to enrich themselves, whereas for the latter, it is a sine qua non that terrorist action is motivated and justified by the furtherance of an objective cause.( wordIQ.com )

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Definitions

There is no single, universally accepted, definition of terrorism. Terrorism is defined in the Code of Federal Regulations as “the unlawful use of force and violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives”(28 C.F.R. Section 0.85).

The FBI further describes terrorism as either domestic or international, depending on the origin, base, and objectives of the terrorist organization.....( FBI.gov )
AGOODelectronfie ld

Somerset, KY

#70319 Jan 7, 2013
Cybele wrote:
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I'm the one who brought up the "app" first so why are you twisting things around? Kids who can read and don't have smart phones must have access to a dictionary. Yes that was the point until you used some obscurity in your language. lol
Actually, the hard back editions of the mention of dictionaries came first. Try to stay focused.

So, MY point as stated first, is still, absolutely VALID.

Kids should have access to dictionaries...be it what ever means. I personally prefer the presences of BOOK editions as well, because no not everyone has instant access to internet.

Nor should it allowed unrestricted in classrooms.

That is part of the PROBLEM these days...too much drivel and USELESS technology JUNK, and off topic garbage, and NOT enough actual studying, or staying ON TASK...no matter what teh task might be.
AGOODelectronfie ld

Somerset, KY

#70320 Jan 7, 2013
neutral observer wrote:
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Thinking negatively is bad? Many things should be approached only with a well deserved cynacism.
Politics is one example.
Science is another. One should always question new ideas.
Naivety on the other hand is bad. Like folks who think the absolute truth about everything was known to wandering tribes from the ancient Middle East.
Otay -boredum sets ineth now. Cheerio mateys lol.

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Since: Apr 08

Indianapolis, IN

#70321 Jan 7, 2013
AGOODelectronfield wrote:
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Actually, the hard back editions of the mention of dictionaries came first. Try to stay focused.
So, MY point as stated first, is still, absolutely VALID.
Kids should have access to dictionaries...be it what ever means. I personally prefer the presences of BOOK editions as well, because no not everyone has instant access to internet.
Nor should it allowed unrestricted in classrooms.
That is part of the PROBLEM these days...too much drivel and USELESS technology JUNK, and off topic garbage, and NOT enough actual studying, or staying ON TASK...no matter what teh task might be.
We have a joke in education:
Drop a book? You pick it up.
Drop an iPad? You sweep it up.
TheIndependentMa jority

Somerset, KY

#70322 Jan 7, 2013
MikeF wrote:
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We have a joke in education:
Drop a book? You pick it up.
Drop an iPad? You sweep it up.
Ohhhh that's not funny!

Shame on you!

NO DROPPING the ipads lol.
neutral observer

Lake Worth, FL

#70323 Jan 7, 2013
AGOODelectronfield wrote:
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Actually, the hard back editions of the mention of dictionaries came first. Try to stay focused.

So, MY point as stated first, is still, absolutely VALID.

Kids should have access to dictionaries...be it what ever means. I personally prefer the presences of BOOK editions as well, because no not everyone has instant access to internet.

Nor should it allowed unrestricted in classrooms.

That is part of the PROBLEM these days...too much drivel and USELESS technology JUNK, and off topic garbage, and NOT enough actual studying, or staying ON TASK...no matter what teh task might be.
Of course we need dictionaries. Rely on things like spell check and you get a word but not usually the right one. More likely it will choose blew when you need blue or through when you need threw.
neutral observer

Lake Worth, FL

#70324 Jan 7, 2013
Why do we need a definition of terrorism? We all know what that is. When we were supporting the contras in Central America and the Islamic mujahedeen in Afghanistan (Bin Laden and al-Zawahiri were on our payroll) we were supporting terrorists. The rebels in Libya and Syria are also terrorists.

Washington has a long history of backing such groups. We seem to prefer Islamist nut-jobs like the Saudis to nationalists like Saddam in the Moslem world.
anonymous

Franklin, PA

#70326 Jan 7, 2013
TheIndependentMajority wrote:
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Ohhhh that's not funny!
Shame on you!
NO DROPPING the ipads lol.
Blending is greatly preferred.

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#70327 Jan 7, 2013
AGOODelectronfield wrote:
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Stinkin' manipulative trolls, can't stay on topic for anything.
:-)
Oh, I know I wasn't on topic for any of that, but you get caught up with distractions sometimes. It did result from an on topic discussion if that makes you feel better about it.
anonymous

Franklin, PA

#70328 Jan 7, 2013
neutral observer wrote:
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No... but it is the truth.
The politicians have been selling us out to communist China and to the Saudi monarchy for decades now. In spite of all the propaganda from MSNBC and Fox it is totally bipartisan. Clinton beat Bush and gave us more of the same. Bush replaced Clinton and we got more of the same. Now Obama is pretty much a Bush clone.
They all borrow from the foreign despots and outsource our jobs to east Asia. Both parties get their pockets lined by corporations who have subsidiaries in China and by Saudi oil interests and the crooks in Washington do their bidding. Why else would we be systematically targeting all of Saudi Arabia's rivals in the gulf region one by one? If not for them would we really be that interested in the Middle East?
Well, I guess that I'd have to ask if it's deliberate or just privileged kids doing what they always do, help themselves to entitlement, convinced of their importance "earning" the excess that they take.

When it comes down to it, it's our democracy. We still vote them in.
TheIndependentMa jority

Somerset, KY

#70329 Jan 7, 2013
neutral observer wrote:
Why do we need a definition of terrorism? We all know what that is. When we were supporting the contras in Central America and the Islamic mujahedeen in Afghanistan (Bin Laden and al-Zawahiri were on our payroll) we were supporting terrorists. The rebels in Libya and Syria are also terrorists.
Washington has a long history of backing such groups. We seem to prefer Islamist nut-jobs like the Saudis to nationalists like Saddam in the Moslem world.
Definitions help keep track of various meanings, in things like, dictionaries.
Someone should send that youngster Jay Carney et al(or whatever his name is) one..so maybe next time, they can distinguish the difference between rogue (adj) dictators(noun), specific groups flying terrorism sponsored flags(gerund phrase), American film making(verb) antagonists, and collective mobs wildly (adverb) perpetuating acts of Terrorism, so they'll get stuff RIGHT- BEFORE they get on national telebision and make idiots out of themselves.
TheIndependentMa jority

Somerset, KY

#70330 Jan 7, 2013
anonymous wrote:
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Blending is greatly preferred.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =lAl28d6tbkoXX
LOL

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