Evolution vs. Creation

Evolution vs. Creation

There are 197475 comments on the Best of New Orleans story from Jan 6, 2011, titled Evolution vs. Creation. In it, Best of New Orleans reports that:

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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“Pancakes and eggs...”

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#70338 Jan 7, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
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Here, read this first:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abiogenesis
Ok...I read it...well parts of it...

And got lot's of 'mays''maybes' and 'mights'...and 'theories'....

But no absolutes...

DNA...RNA...is just like computer programming...it can't be done by chance...

Each life form, species, has it's own code...color, feathers, gills, feet, hands, mating habits, eyes,...

Insects, mammals, birds...plant life...

All, each, so complex...if you know and study engineering...you could never say all this programming was done, created, by accident...

it's impossible...

Lifeless matter has no logical reason to create life on it's own...

For the path of least resistance is always death...not life and conscious...

And matter always follows the path of least resistance...which would be death and rocks....not conciousness and life...

Quit resisting the idea of there being a creator...

Your disdain towards Christanity or religion, shouldn't blind you to the idea of an intellegent creator...
FREE SERVANT
#70340 Jan 7, 2013
ALL the elements came from the process of the divided waters that created light. I think the elements of the earth also came from the gathering together of waters according to the Bible.

“what we think we become”

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above and beyond

#70341 Jan 7, 2013
FREE SERVANT wrote:
ALL the elements came from the process of the divided waters that created light. I think the elements of the earth also came from the gathering together of waters according to the Bible.
Water = H2O. Oxygen is the third most abundant element found in the sun and Hydrogen is the most abundant element in the universe. Hydrogen burns in air and water is formed as a waste product.

“what we think we become”

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Since: Aug 11

above and beyond

#70342 Jan 7, 2013
Considering Hydrogen may have been the first element that formed the sun's core means that scientists need to study this particular element in particle physics to explain the birth of our solar system. Or does anyone know?

“I Am No One Else”

Level 7

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#70343 Jan 7, 2013
Time and Space wrote:
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.....
DNA...RNA...is just like computer programming...it can't be done by chance...
...
Nope, it's not.

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#70344 Jan 7, 2013
FREE SERVANT wrote:
<quoted text>AND Hydrogen collapsing becomes converted into helium through fusion, and then there was star light.
Again, you are forgetting about the oxygen that makes your idiotic statement fail.

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#70345 Jan 7, 2013
Time and Space wrote:
<quoted text>
Ok...I read it...well parts of it...
And got lot's of 'mays''maybes' and 'mights'...and 'theories'....
But no absolutes...
DNA...RNA...is just like computer programming...it can't be done by chance...
Each life form, species, has it's own code...color, feathers, gills, feet, hands, mating habits, eyes,...
Insects, mammals, birds...plant life...
All, each, so complex...if you know and study engineering...you could never say all this programming was done, created, by accident...
it's impossible...
Lifeless matter has no logical reason to create life on it's own...
For the path of least resistance is always death...not life and conscious...
And matter always follows the path of least resistance...which would be death and rocks....not conciousness and life...
Quit resisting the idea of there being a creator...
Your disdain towards Christanity or religion, shouldn't blind you to the idea of an intellegent creator...
All you have offered to contradict this is an argument from ignorance.

First off neither evolution nor abiogenesis is random. Go back read it some more. Anyone who tries to make such an obviously false claim understands neither.
lial

Howell, MI

#70346 Jan 7, 2013
inselfism..

humans are the real God of the world and the religions are self denial.. of ones own power
lial

Howell, MI

#70347 Jan 7, 2013
just because humans made it up doesn't mean it isn't still true..

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

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Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#70348 Jan 7, 2013
neutral observer wrote:
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That depends entirely on the fundamentalists own view on the subject. Shellfish, pork, circumcision and graven images no longer applies. The sodomy thing on the other hand...
I find that rather odd.

One wonders how they can continue to claim any sort of consistency.
FREE SERVANT
#70349 Jan 8, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
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Again, you are forgetting about the oxygen that makes your idiotic statement fail.
Again, you forget it divided from the Hydrogen and then came back together to form the solid elements that formed the planets or the dry land as the Bible states it.

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#70350 Jan 8, 2013
FREE SERVANT wrote:
<quoted text>Again, you forget it divided from the Hydrogen and then came back together to form the solid elements that formed the planets or the dry land as the Bible states it.
No, hydrogen existed first. Oxygen did not appear for many millions of years after the first star was formed.

“There is no such thing”

Level 3

Since: May 08

as a reasonable person

#70351 Jan 8, 2013
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>I find that rather odd.
One wonders how they can continue to claim any sort of consistency.
And why is there such a thing as "christian" porn?
ROCK

Covington, LA

#70352 Jan 8, 2013
Bible Belt wrote:
<quoted text>The stone in my profile picture is a real Kentucky agate. I post using the name FREE SERVANT at times.
ROCK ON AND ON!
anonymous

Chagrin Falls, OH

#70353 Jan 8, 2013
FREE SERVANT wrote:
<quoted text>Again, you forget it divided from the Hydrogen and then came back together to form the solid elements that formed the planets or the dry land as the Bible states it.
Really? I don't recall atomic theory ever being addressed in the Bible. Was that before or after "And-so-and-so-begat-so-a nd-so, yada, yada"? My only brief attempt to ever read the Bible ended quickly with that arrogant obsession with dynasties.
anonymous

Chagrin Falls, OH

#70354 Jan 8, 2013
Lil Ticked wrote:
<quoted text>And why is there such a thing as "christian" porn?
Christian Porn? Sounds like something kinky from Opus Dei! You're not trying to sell some to finance a new pope-mobile or something, are you?
anonymous

Chagrin Falls, OH

#70356 Jan 8, 2013
AGOODelectronfield wrote:
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Not all...the jihadist terrorist attacks on America were PolTICal-as in PoliTICal Terrorism".
No "semantics" to that.
Political terrorism is a form of terrorism (a tactic of violence that targets civilians) used to influence socio-political events so that gains occur that might not have otherwise happened by peaceful means. There are obviously different types of psychic terror, from religious and magical terror, to fear of the natural world. Criminal terrorists — those who use blackmail, intimidation, and the promotion of fear — are differentiated from political terrorists because the former seek to enrich themselves, whereas for the latter, it is a sine qua non that terrorist action is motivated and justified by the furtherance of an objective cause.( wordIQ.com )
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Definitions
There is no single, universally accepted, definition of terrorism. Terrorism is defined in the Code of Federal Regulations as “the unlawful use of force and violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives”(28 C.F.R. Section 0.85).
The FBI further describes terrorism as either domestic or international, depending on the origin, base, and objectives of the terrorist organization.....( FBI.gov )
So when are you all going to explain what "TIC" is? I looked it up in Urban Dictionary and found some of the results very disturbing!

“I Am No One Else”

Level 7

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#70357 Jan 8, 2013
FREE SERVANT wrote:
<quoted text>Again, you forget it divided from the Hydrogen and then came back together to form the solid elements that formed the planets or the dry land as the Bible states it.
So you don't care about fact. You are just a snake oil peddler.

“what we think we become”

Level 5

Since: Aug 11

above and beyond

#70358 Jan 8, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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So you don't care about fact. You are just a snake oil peddler.
You are acting up again

“Nihil curo de ista tua stulta ”

Since: May 08

Orlando

#70359 Jan 8, 2013
FREE SERVANT wrote:
<quoted text>Again, you forget it divided from the Hydrogen and then came back together to form the solid elements that formed the planets or the dry land as the Bible states it.
Wow.

Just.....wow.

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