Evolution vs. Creation

Evolution vs. Creation

There are 223189 comments on the Best of New Orleans story from Jan 6, 2011, titled Evolution vs. Creation. In it, Best of New Orleans reports that:

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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Since: Feb 08

Tampa, FL

#70275 Jan 7, 2013
DanFromSmithville wrote:
It is hard to tell in this incoherent babble, what you are trying to say.
You noticed that too, eh?(No, I didn't think that I was the only one to notice.)

Since: Feb 08

Tampa, FL

#70276 Jan 7, 2013
Cybele wrote:
Is there such thing as a religious sociopath?
Jim Jones comes to mind.

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#70277 Jan 7, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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Not really, yes and no. There are sociopaths who will claim religious affiliation but if they actually believe in it is still a mystery.
So is it safe to assume that perhaps every sociopath or psychopath need a Jesus personality psychologically speaking? Whether they want an attachment with one or victimize one.

This has nothing to do with following a religion. Don't get me wrong.
neutral observer

West Palm Beach, FL

#70278 Jan 7, 2013
Cybele wrote:
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Ah yah. Is-Ra-El. Zionism.
Zionism? That is bs. Our interest in Israel is not really about the Jews. It is about Moral Majority types who really could care less about the Jews (as non Christians the Jews are destined for hell anyway in their religious ideology) but for religious reasons they still support the state of Israel. Even more than the American Jews. A rather bipolar worldview.

No reason to blame it on Jewish zionists or the Israel lobby.

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#70279 Jan 7, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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No, the opposite. Sociopaths react to needs, basic needs like survival and sustenance. Psychopaths respond to emotional drive, they react to their own personal emotions, and this is almost always anger or the drive to hunt. The christian god is very often destroying things out of anger, and makes the classic "you made me" excuse common to the psychopath.
An interesting tidbit of information, most abusers are psychopaths, they react based only on their emotional state, which often leads to imagined slights and a lack of logical reasoning in their actions.
First you need to define the difference between sociopath vs. psychopath.

"psychopathy leans towards the hereditary whereas sociopathy tends towards the environmental."

"Psychopaths are born with temperamental differences such as impulsivity, cortical underarousal, and fearlessness that lead them to risk-seeking behavior and an inability to internalize social norms. On the other hand, sociopaths have relatively normal temperaments; their personality disorder being more an effect of negative sociological factors like parental neglect, delinquent peers, poverty, and extremely low or extremely high intelligence."

Agree?
neutral observer

West Palm Beach, FL

#70280 Jan 7, 2013
Drew Smith wrote:
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Jim Jones comes to mind.
An interesting question... have Christians murdered more people over the centuries just for being Moslem or have Moslems murdered more people over the centuries just for being...?

These two Jewish sects have quite a history of mass murder.

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Seattle

#70281 Jan 7, 2013
Cybele wrote:
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So is it safe to assume that perhaps every sociopath or psychopath need a Jesus personality psychologically speaking? Whether they want an attachment with one or victimize one.
This has nothing to do with following a religion. Don't get me wrong.
Nope. Neither needs anything more than less stereotyping by the masses. Considering most live in society without ever posing a threat, there is no need for them to change, our culture needs to change and learn to embrace and utilize differences better, that's all.

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Seattle

#70282 Jan 7, 2013
Cybele wrote:
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First you need to define the difference between sociopath vs. psychopath.
"psychopathy leans towards the hereditary whereas sociopathy tends towards the environmental."
"Psychopaths are born with temperamental differences such as impulsivity, cortical underarousal, and fearlessness that lead them to risk-seeking behavior and an inability to internalize social norms. On the other hand, sociopaths have relatively normal temperaments; their personality disorder being more an effect of negative sociological factors like parental neglect, delinquent peers, poverty, and extremely low or extremely high intelligence."
Agree?
Nope, it's all genetic, and not usually hereditary. It is simply a different logic system.

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#70283 Jan 7, 2013
neutral observer wrote:
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Zionism? That is bs. Our interest in Israel is not really about the Jews. It is about Moral Majority types who really could care less about the Jews (as non Christians the Jews are destined for hell anyway in their religious ideology) but for religious reasons they still support the state of Israel. Even more than the American Jews. A rather bipolar worldview.
No reason to blame it on Jewish zionists or the Israel lobby.
Whatever the reason is, it has got something to do with the elites. Maybe rooted from biblical war among Cain and Abel descendants that has evolved into the political arena we have today. lol

Since: Feb 08

Tampa, FL

#70284 Jan 7, 2013
neutral observer wrote:
An interesting question... have Christians murdered more people over the centuries just for being Moslem or have Moslems murdered more people over the centuries just for being...? These two Jewish sects have quite a history of mass murder.
You left out the Christians who murdered people for being the "wrong kind" of Christian.(The Muslims still do that, in terms of the "wrong kind" of Muslim.)

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#70285 Jan 7, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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Nope, it's all genetic, and not usually hereditary. It is simply a different logic system.
Sounds like you refuse a remedy to the problem. If by nature or nurture we all acquire the traits of psychopath or sociopath, why would you want to remain that way? We will all end up in jails with some having to face capital punishment. Not a good way to continue the path to human evolution. lol
neutral observer

West Palm Beach, FL

#70286 Jan 7, 2013
Drew Smith wrote:
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You left out the Christians who murdered people for being the "wrong kind" of Christian.(The Muslims still do that, in terms of the "wrong kind" of Muslim.)
What about the Christians who murdered people for making scientific observations? Nowhere in the Bible does it say the Earth is the center of the solar system and yet the Inquisition somehow thought it ok to burn people at the stake for...

Even though that belief came from Greek philosophers who were not even Christian.
Anelectronfield

London, KY

#70287 Jan 7, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
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No one has ever claimed that life "raised itself". The appearance of life on the Earth was due to reactions to the state the Earth was in at that time.
Where is your evidence that they were looking at electron field? From my understanding they are looking at black smokers as the source of energy and quite a few of the chemicals involved.
Electron fields..plural. Pre whole"atoms" so to speak-quarks etc.

Synchrotron radiation from proton bunches in the LHC creates photoelectrons at the beam screen wall. These photoelectrons are pulled toward the positively charged proton bunch. When they hit the opposite wall, they generate secondary electrons which can in turn be accelerated by the next bunch. Depending on several assumptions about surface reflectivity, photoelectron and secondary electron yield, this mechanism can lead to the fast build-up of an electron cloud (the animation shows simulation results by O. Brüning for 10 subsequent bunch passages, during which the pictures become red) with potential implications for beam stability and heat load on the beam screen. In view of the tight deadline for the design of the LHC cryogenic system, a crash program has been set up to measure the relevant physical quantities with and without magnetic field.
neutral observer

West Palm Beach, FL

#70288 Jan 7, 2013
Cybele wrote:
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Whatever the reason is, it has got something to do with the elites. Maybe rooted from biblical war among Cain and Abel descendants that has evolved into the political arena we have today. lol
The elites? I think it is like with immigration. The fundamentalist teabagger types have a knee-jerk support for Israel and the elites just tip-toe around them out of fear they will go totally bonkers if the government adopts a sensible policy.

The Brits are really to blame for the Israel/Palestinian thing. Not the Jews or the Moslems. What did they think would happen when they carved up the Holy Land between the Arabs and the...?
Anelectronfield

London, KY

#70289 Jan 7, 2013
Cybele wrote:
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Sounds like you refuse a remedy to the problem. If by nature or nurture we all acquire the traits of psychopath or sociopath, why would you want to remain that way? We will all end up in jails with some having to face capital punishment. Not a good way to continue the path to human evolution. lol
Disgree- all people do not end up twisted and warped. Why would they, when they can choose of their own "free will", "being good over being evil".

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#70290 Jan 7, 2013
Drew Smith wrote:
Of course, people who try to hijack threads for purposes other than the topic of the thread are certainly acting in an anti-social way, don't you think?
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How so?
You are giving a different meaning to anti-social
Drew Smith wrote:
Don't you think it takes judgment to determine if someone else's argument is illogical and contains logical fallacies?
No you are not using your 'own' judgement but following a set of rules for logical arguments. We can't apply those set of rules in every type of argument.
Anelectronfield

London, KY

#70291 Jan 7, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
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No one has ever claimed that life "raised itself". The appearance of life on the Earth was due to reactions to the state the Earth was in at that time.
Where is your evidence that they were looking at electron field? From my understanding they are looking at black smokers as the source of energy and quite a few of the chemicals involved.
V.V. Anashin, A. Krasnov, Method of SEY and ELECTRON clouds life time measurements in the presence of magnetic field, BINP Vacuum Group Report 5-2009; presentation at CERN (A. Krasnov, 12.03.2010)
AGOODelectronfie ld

London, KY

#70292 Jan 7, 2013
Cybele wrote:
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Everyone must carry a DICTIONARY including yourself. You know they have dictionary 'apps' now.
Low life scum? You are a classic example of a PEST and you are used to kill what is actually good.
No, TICS are pests, and I am not "used" to "kill" anything, is that some sort of delusion? So why would everyone carry a dictionary, in the digital age, when even 8 year olds can find dictionary apps?

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#70293 Jan 7, 2013
Anelectronfield wrote:
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Disgree- all people do not end up twisted and warped. Why would they, when they can choose of their own "free will", "being good over being evil".
Then you don't understand what the disorder actually means and the consequences of it in our society. Why would bad always remain bad and the good remain good? We need balance. Just like Yin and Yang. duh!

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Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#70294 Jan 7, 2013
Cybele wrote:
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Sounds like you refuse a remedy to the problem. If by nature or nurture we all acquire the traits of psychopath or sociopath, why would you want to remain that way? We will all end up in jails with some having to face capital punishment. Not a good way to continue the path to human evolution. lol
Erm, what? Most of the prisoners are neither sociopaths or psychopaths, the form of logic we call sociopathic or psychopathic are not inherently bad, I know I already mentioned that. Most live in society without ever even being analyzed, and that's often because psychiatrists are not scientific. It's not an illness anymore than being gay is, it's simply a difference and nothing more. Until you stop thinking that everything that is not like you is an illness you will never learn anything beyond stereotypes.

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