Evolution vs. Creation

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anonymous

Franklin, PA

#70212 Jan 7, 2013
Drew Smith wrote:
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So, using your own argument, if you had been confident in your position, you wouldn't have responded. Yet you did.
I guess that means you're not very confident.
Blah! Blah! Blah!

I can speak my opinions. This isn't a science publication to begin with, nor is the forum question solvable by pure science. Tangents to the debate are inevitable.

You're going to keep on trying to salvage your mimicry based politics, aren't you?
anonymous

Franklin, PA

#70213 Jan 7, 2013
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>Oh, the Old Testament no longer applies?
So much for Leviticus...
My bad. I looked it up later. Old Testament. I didn't think "lord" was used so much in the old one.
ROCK

Covington, LA

#70214 Jan 7, 2013
anonymous wrote:
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Given up on water, and now you're a rock guy, eh? Are we going to go through the entire cast of Megaman villians?
ROCK ON!
ROCK

Covington, LA

#70215 Jan 7, 2013
Bible Belt wrote:
<quoted text>AMEN
Great ROCK!
anonymous

Franklin, PA

#70216 Jan 7, 2013
DanFromSmithville wrote:
<quoted text>I didn't attack a handicapped person. This is just another lie you feel comfortable in saying to make me look bad. You are still avoiding the questions. You can't admit any wrongdoing on your part. You are just the same as anyone you rail against. There is nothing different about your strategy than the most hardened evangelical. You complain about alpha males, and then use bullying, misinformation, lies and strongarm tactics to beat any dissenters down. You sure you are not a evangelical Christian, ex football player?
So, basically, you can jump into a conversation you are not a part of, but others cannot. You can call others wrong without much or any evidence, but even when they have evidence, they cannot call you wrong. When they do, you don't have to ask questions or provide evidence, you can just start accusing them of being horrible people.
Those are the rules you want on here. Just as long as we both know your rules. Seems pretty one sided to me, but what do I know. I have a diagnosed mental illness and can't be held responsible for my words or actions.
I already said, our legal system isn't really about rules. But since you bring them up, you do know that there is an insanity plea in a court of law, and the consequences are different than with premeditated crimes, right?

You crossed a line. This was over before it began.

“Pissing people off since 1949”

Level 8

Since: Apr 08

Seffner, FL

#70217 Jan 7, 2013
Time and Space wrote:
What happens if you place one plant on the moon...without oxygenated soil, without other plants to polinate with?
It will simply die...
And what happens if you put them under water for a year?
anonymous

Franklin, PA

#70218 Jan 7, 2013
Time and Space wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D na
give me evidence that this advance code can come randomly from a dead rock...
The word you're using that isn't applicable is "advanced". Abiogenesis would probably not start with DNA of ANY value to begin with. It may not have been encased in a cell at all, in fact, it probably wasn't. Only after one self-reproducing structure combined with the other (a bubble made of semi-permeable membrane) would you be able to apply the protein making ability of DNA to the process of regulating the cell and refining its self-replicating abilities.
anonymous

Franklin, PA

#70219 Jan 7, 2013
DanFromSmithville wrote:
<quoted text>Anonymous from Akron, this is the post where you decided to set me straight on my attacks on handicapped people. I just want to bring it back to refresh your memory on my scathing assault on people with mental illness. Please explain to the group how you went from this post to my attakcing the handicapped.
Let me explain this to you so that you can understand since you seem to be so lax in the area of understanding. I was talking about evil and god and man. We are after all on a "creation" vs evolution thread. So we were heavy on the creation for this discussion. I didn't say anything specific about a particular person although it is clear I am referring to the then current event in the Northeast. You keyed in on what I said, mixed it with your own bias and facts I did not know and went on a tirade. You got busted and now you are crying like a baby trying to crawfish out of it. The nerve have to even complain about Drew doing something similar, if he even did, is indicative of your hypocrisy.
I don't mind that you are touchy about the subject of mental illness. I respect your opinion on the way mentally ill people are treated even today. I don't completely agree with it, but I can respect it.
I don't respect a person like yourself, that does something wrong and doesn't have the courage to admit it. If you want to save face, that would have been the way to do it.
No, we are on a "CreationISM" vs. Evolution thread. Whether or not you accept the definition of Creationism, it's about the prehistory of Earth.

In all honesty, I was very provoking towards both Drew and sickofit. I intended to draw out their obsessive-compulsive tendencies rather than go through this nit-picky nonsense. In your case, you were on the hook from the get-go because you were posing as God's servant against evil, and when you realized that you were hunting a legally insane person (and already dead! My hero!), well, I guess you kind of got into an off-balance state of bluster.

Really, you feel attacked because I started off on the assumption that you knew that the shooter was mentally handicapped. Things just got silly from there.
AnElectronField

Somerset, KY

#70220 Jan 7, 2013
anonymous wrote:
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Well, that's another possibility.
If the U.S. wanted to undermine Communism in China, demonstrating the improved lifestyle that comes with industrialization could trigger unrest with the public. Keep in mind though, 20 years ago, that government was completely willing to crack down on dissenters, pitting battle tanks against unarmed students in Tiananmen Square. Also keep in mind, we are a nation one quarter of the population of China. Industrialization of a country THAT large is dangerous and the lost jobs in the western world are highly destabilizing.
Throw in other factors like the Kyoto Accords,currency manipulation, changes in import laws due to the inevitability of globalization, the eventual loss of global oil supplies, etc. and it's anyone's guess what will happen in the not-so-distant future, but I can't imagine it will happen peacefully! That's like a "Peace in our Time" joke.
There's been enough Gangus Kahn stuff in the past couple of milleniums that tel a different tale huh.:-)
AnElectronField

Somerset, KY

#70221 Jan 7, 2013
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>Way to avoid the fact that I gave you exactly what you asked for. As a deflection, that's an epic fail.
Oh, and did you mean my use of the word "bastard" when you said "cussy"?
Don't look at me, it's Biblical:
" A bastard shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD; even to his tenth generation shall he not enter into the congregation of the LORD. " (Deuteronomy 23:2)
You're just being ugly now...and stupid, and NO, that's not what I was referencing.

And I can quote that stuff TOO!!

Ephesians 5:1-33

Therefore be imitators of God, as beloved children. And walk in love, as Christ loved us and gave himself up for us, a fragrant offering and sacrifice to God. But sexual immorality and all impurity or covetousness must not even be named among you, as is proper among saints. Let there be no filthiness nor foolish talk nor crude joking, which are out of place, but instead let there be thanksgiving. For you may be sure of this, that everyone who is sexually immoral or impure, or who is covetous (that is, an idolater), has no inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and God.

Peter 3:1

Likewise, wives, be subject to your own husbands, so that even if some do not obey the word, they may be won without a word by the conduct of their wives.

Heh, so there :-).

PS: Did you know Fabiola Gionatti is a female?

HA. lol.
AnElectronField

Somerset, KY

#70222 Jan 7, 2013
Cybele wrote:
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Simple just look at the financial reports
http://www.fms.treas.gov/fr/index.html
Pfft. The past four years REEK of nothing but the ignorance of destructive "bozo-ness". I wouldn't waste my time.
AnElectronField

Somerset, KY

#70223 Jan 7, 2013
anonymous wrote:
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You'd have to tell me what kind of experiences you're referring to. There are a few curmudgeonly pains out there but everyone needs to pay their bills.
And everyone should live within their OWN means, and not expect others to pay for their ignorance, or grandiose delusions of imaginary NON earned lifestyles beyond those means.

The Cinderella "syndrome" is a very UNhealthy thing. So is the Napolean one.
AnElectronField

Somerset, KY

#70224 Jan 7, 2013
Time and Space wrote:
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But like someone said on another post...
If this random soup is created in a lab...all it prooves is 'intellegent design'...
And randomn soup, is not enough to produce the enviornment we have on this planet...
The variety of life...the opposite sex dynamics...
Life cannot exist without an enviornment in which to live or thrive...
What happens if you place one plant on the moon...without oxygenated soil, without other plants to polinate with?
It will simply die...
Look at all the various species put here, simply to be apart of a greater ecosphere...
Life on earth is a team effort...
It was all done deliberatly by a master designer or bio-engineer...or creator...
Primordial goo certainly didn't arise itself...that's why the most current studies are looking at electron fields.

Energy.

As in E=mc2, as in Physics. Quantumn even...as in "In the beginning, there WAS light"..as in, electron fields, at very least.:-).
AnElectronField

Somerset, KY

#70225 Jan 7, 2013
anonymous wrote:
<quoted text>
Whiner? Hmmm. Well, if you really do take everything on the chin...
So where are you coming from if that's not too personal? My first guess would be south of the border, but no guarantees there. I kind of winced at the thought that you were trying to be a writer because your English writing does have a few too many boo-boo's for the average editor to take seriously, but your syntax is too close to standard English for you to not have had significant exposure to it. Most people would just assume that you lack education.
I first pegged you as possibly part Native American because you obviously don't observe pecking orders, but you have enough confidence to wade into an American style of argument so I'd suspect a good deal of Spanish in your blood as well. Combine that with a reverence for Christian doctrine and it seems to fit.
Shh..you'll blow the the igno-peabrain delusions of everybody was a pilgrim.

“what we think we become”

Level 5

Since: Aug 11

above and beyond

#70226 Jan 7, 2013
AnElectronField wrote:
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And everyone should live within their OWN means, and not expect others to pay for their ignorance, or grandiose delusions of imaginary NON earned lifestyles beyond those means.
The Cinderella "syndrome" is a very UNhealthy thing. So is the Napolean one.
Your angular momentum syndrome is showing. Keep spinning! lol

“what we think we become”

Level 5

Since: Aug 11

above and beyond

#70227 Jan 7, 2013
AnElectronField wrote:
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Pfft. The past four years REEK of nothing but the ignorance of destructive "bozo-ness". I wouldn't waste my time.
And how was the Bush era any better?
TheIndependentMa jority

Somerset, KY

#70228 Jan 7, 2013
Cybele wrote:
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And how was the Bush era any better?
People had JOBS.

Bush admin beat the hell out of the incompetence of the past four years.

Leon Panetta jumping the obozoTic sinking boat now too-"quel surprise". NOT.

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#70229 Jan 7, 2013
AnElectronField wrote:
<quoted text>
Primordial goo certainly didn't arise itself...that's why the most current studies are looking at electron fields.
Energy.
As in E=mc2, as in Physics. Quantumn even...as in "In the beginning, there WAS light"..as in, electron fields, at very least.:-).
No one has ever claimed that life "raised itself". The appearance of life on the Earth was due to reactions to the state the Earth was in at that time.

Where is your evidence that they were looking at electron field? From my understanding they are looking at black smokers as the source of energy and quite a few of the chemicals involved.
TheIndependentMa jority

Somerset, KY

#70230 Jan 7, 2013
Cybele wrote:
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Your angular momentum syndrome is showing. Keep spinning! lol
No spin to it.

Fiscally deceitful and illicitely unaccountable people suck.
FabGionatti

Somerset, KY

#70231 Jan 7, 2013
Cybele wrote:
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Your angular momentum syndrome is showing. Keep spinning! lol
Sandra FlukeHo...is that you?

You nothing but suck in comparison lol.

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