Evolution vs. Creation

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High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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<quoted text>Did the hydrogen become light?
Wow, your complete and total lack of comprehension is astounding. How do you manage to dress yourself?
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Wow, your complete and total lack of comprehension is astounding. How do you manage to dress yourself?
One leg at a time......
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Doh!
Play?

(duh lol)
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I think it is obvious the light was lit.
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Time and Space wrote:
Most resist the idea of a creator...simply because religion has attached judgment and condemnation, as traits of this creator or creators or spirits or superior beings...
"Many" rather than "most" would read truer, and so would "because indoctrination" rather than "religion") has attached.. etc...

Mostly...because.. a person can...for example, "religiously" brush their teeth, or "religiously" drink two cups of coffee each day, neither of which "ritual" will have perpetuated any sort of religious "indoctrination" upon them.

“Darwin was right..of course.”

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Time and Space wrote:
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Please...you don't know what I know...
Life does not come from, magicaly spring from, dead, lifeless, non-bio matter or elements...that's science...
Enlighten me Oh wise one.
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TheIndependentMajority wrote:
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Play?
(duh lol)
Play-Doh - Who Invented Play-Doh
Play-Doh was originally designed as a wallpaper cleaner.

Play Doh - What is it?:
Play Doh is a modelling compound especially meant for kids. Play Doh comes in various colors including primary colors like blue, red and yellow. Play Doh comes in sealed cans, and is pliable to the touch. It's similarity to clay without the mess makes it a perfect modelling toy for the children. Play Doh is non toxic, and can be washed off with soapy water. Once Play Doh is exposed to air, it hardens.

About.com
Parenting
Toys
Arts and Crafts for Kids
All About Play Doh

www.hasbro.com/playdoh/

Why rewrite the DUH wheel lol

“Darwin was right..of course.”

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xxxooxxx wrote:
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exactly...it is intuitional knowledge.
("Intuition is the ability to acquire knowledge without inference and/or the use of reason.")
However intuition is not always right.
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Time and Space wrote:
Most resist the idea of a creator...simply because religion has attached judgment and condemnation, as traits of this creator or creators or spirits or superior beings...
None of which should be confused with ETHICS, Morality, decency, integrity and having humanity and regard OF and FOR others, of course.
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Thomas Robertson wrote:
neutral observer wrote:
A monotheistic god would be neither male nor female. For it to be one requires that gods of the other gender also exist. Unless you are polytheistic...
Cybele wrote:
The anthropomorphic God of the Bible is obviously a male
The Christian Scientists call their god the Father-Mother God.
The founder of their church was a woman.
TR the humans that are far beyond the "Bible Babble" and realize the entities and forces that created all life on this planet .....STOP! Humans are a primitive species.....to understand the truth would be asking to much from a mind stuck in the A>D.And, contact is out of the question. Proof........forget it!Just be a good little godbot and go pray.......

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thewordofme wrote:
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However intuition is not always right.
Your right...nor is logical deduction. But when you have cultures that have had no contact with one another that also are separated by time and space, come up with basic intuitional knowledge that correlates to a idea that science adheres to...( the Observer Effect)then you have something that should be considered...

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xxxooxxx wrote:
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Your right...nor is logical deduction. But when you have cultures that have had no contact with one another that also are separated by time and space, come up with basic intuitional knowledge that correlates to a idea that science adheres to...( the Observer Effect)then you have something that should be considered...
Noncorporeal aliens inhabit the bodies of Enterprise crew members to study how the crew reacts to a lethal virus infection that has afflicted Trip and Hoshi. "The Observer Affect" (StarTrek) lol.

“If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?”~ George Berkeley

Fundamental to contemporary Quantum Theory is the notion that there is no phenomenon until it is observed. This effect is known as the ‘Observer Effect’.

"The Observer Affect" Flow"Psychology" on a cherry blossom web page with a guy that looks like Teli Savalis.

The "Observer Affect" in Science-
Rational Example:a standard mercury-in-glass thermometer must absorb some thermal energy to record a temperature, and therefore changes the temperature of the body which it is measuring.

A common lay misuse of the term refers to quantum mechanics, where, if the outcome of an event has not been observed, it exists in a state of 'superposition', which is akin to being in all possible states at once. In the famous thought experiment known as Schrödinger's cat the cat is supposedly neither alive nor dead until observed — until that time, the cat is both alive and dead (technically half-alive and half-dead in probability terms). However, most quantum physicists, in resolving Schrödinger's seeming paradox, now understand that the acts of 'observation' and 'measurement' must also be defined in quantum terms **BEFORE the question makes sense.

Instance A: See "studying rats under a microscope after injecting a live germ of black plague"...while watching StarTrek reruns.

Instance B: See perceived ability to "mind read" lol.

Instance C: When not convoluted or misconstrued, could aptly be a term used in formulating Scientific hypothesis, when applied correctly. See: Lucy McFaddens observation on gas and dust comas of the comet Tempel 1 -->(analysis of the gas and dust coma images reveals asymmetric distributions of water, CN, C2 and dust. The C2 is enhanced in the sunward direction suggesting either a temperature dependence or a compositional asymmetry in the composition of the nucleus.)

The "Observer Afffect" lol

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FREE SERVANT wrote:
<quoted text>Did the hydrogen become light?
No, but it eventually produced light. Again, much much later.

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Time and Space wrote:
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Nor is there any evidence of life coming out of inordinate matter...
Inordinate lifeless elements cannot ever, will not ever, produce life...
get over it...
It has no reason to...dust will remain dust for trillions of years, until a master, intellegent chemist entity, comes along and arranges the chemicals in a way that can produce life...
Wrong.

Would you like to learn the current state of abiogenesis? Or do you want to remain in a state of denial?

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TheIndependentMajority wrote:
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Noncorporeal aliens inhabit the bodies of Enterprise crew members to study how the crew reacts to a lethal virus infection that has afflicted Trip and Hoshi. "The Observer Affect" (StarTrek) lol.
“If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?”~ George Berkeley
Fundamental to contemporary Quantum Theory is the notion that there is no phenomenon until it is observed. This effect is known as the ‘Observer Effect’.
"The Observer Affect" Flow"Psychology" on a cherry blossom web page with a guy that looks like Teli Savalis.
The "Observer Affect" in Science-
Rational Example:a standard mercury-in-glass thermometer must absorb some thermal energy to record a temperature, and therefore changes the temperature of the body which it is measuring.
A common lay misuse of the term refers to quantum mechanics, where, if the outcome of an event has not been observed, it exists in a state of 'superposition', which is akin to being in all possible states at once. In the famous thought experiment known as Schrödinger's cat the cat is supposedly neither alive nor dead until observed — until that time, the cat is both alive and dead (technically half-alive and half-dead in probability terms). However, most quantum physicists, in resolving Schrödinger's seeming paradox, now understand that the acts of 'observation' and 'measurement' must also be defined in quantum terms **BEFORE the question makes sense.
Instance A: See "studying rats under a microscope after injecting a live germ of black plague"...while watching StarTrek reruns.
Instance B: See perceived ability to "mind read" lol.
Instance C: When not convoluted or misconstrued, could aptly be a term used in formulating Scientific hypothesis, when applied correctly. See: Lucy McFaddens observation on gas and dust comas of the comet Tempel 1 -->(analysis of the gas and dust coma images reveals asymmetric distributions of water, CN, C2 and dust. The C2 is enhanced in the sunward direction suggesting either a temperature dependence or a compositional asymmetry in the composition of the nucleus.)
The "Observer Afffect" lol
“If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?”

was thinking abut that one earier today...lol
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Subduction Zone wrote:
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No, but it eventually produced light. Again, much much later.
OK, and then there was light, we agree.
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xxxooxxx wrote:
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&#8220;If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?&#8221;
was thinking abut that one earier today...lol
Radio came before black and white TV, but is anybody around that liked it?:)

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My point isn't the point. THE point is the epiphany of knowing when you're pointing a gun at your own head.
If you want a tip, accept that perfection is not strength. Adaptability is strength.(Getting back on topic, one way or another!) If you're interested in progress, you'll need to start asking the right questions. The truth will come racing at you faster than you'll like it, once others see you walking a straight line, rather than swimming around like the other mindless thralls. Thralls adapt, but they don't know perfection. Perfectionists don't adapt, but they waste their time controlling the uncontrollable.
And so, the moral of the story..
Me? I answer a question with another question. YOU!...don't know the truth, and so you don't get the truth, or at least not enough of it to make a difference. You have to choose to ask the right questions, which first means you have to stop living in denial. So, let's end this Cheshire cat dialog, and you can decide who you are and what you really want.
I?...live in the moment. Every time you react, you've already slipped into the past.
When you can dissect this quaint monolog existentially, you'll have a clue!:)
Oh, I've got a clue. My clue is that you like to engage in long, rambling, pointless posts.

Yeah, I get that.

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Time and Space wrote:
life did not simply evolve, invent itself, out of dead matter
Because...?

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Time and Space wrote:
The process has to be started and generated by a creator...
Who created the creator?

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