Evolution vs. Creation

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High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.
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KittenKoder wrote:
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There are four forces of nature and twelve particles of matter .....
This isn't actually the hard stuff either. You don't know therefore "god" doesn't cut it. You are not even addressing stuff we don't know, which is just willful ignorance on your part. Just say you don't want to learn anything and move on, at least then you'd be honest.
No I'm telling you the heart of the matter.

We're talking about atoms and I brought up sub-atomic particles that consists an atom. Let's focus on that since the topic became about the God Particle.

Or better yet, how did particle produce mass? In other words, where did a nucleus come from?

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Jan 6, 2013
 
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No I'm telling you the heart of the matter.
We're talking about atoms and I brought up sub-atomic particles that consists an atom. Let's focus on that since the topic became about the God Particle.
Or better yet, how did particle produce mass? In other words, where did a nucleus come from?
You mean the goddamn particle, well thanks to that we now have a natural explanation for how we have mass, that was the entire point of that particle in the first place.

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You mean the goddamn particle, well thanks to that we now have a natural explanation for how we have mass, that was the entire point of that particle in the first place.
And what is your understanding about mass?

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And what is your understanding about mass?
Ask a physicist.
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The Bible tells us that God has a record book of everyone and I would think he has a record of everything.
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Do you think He has a computer nowadays??
Gotta' keep up with the times.
If he does, I wish he would post a message on this thread and settle the question once and for all.
He already has given us a written message, just open a Bible randomly to any page and you will hear from him.

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FREE SERVANT wrote:
<quoted text>He already has given us a written message, just open a Bible randomly to any page and you will hear from him.
Where is the evidence that this "message" can even be trusted, much less that it's from a god?
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Where is the evidence that this "message" can even be trusted, much less that it's from a god?
He can speak to you and signify that the message is only what you have ask. The evidence is in the answer.

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FREE SERVANT wrote:
<quoted text>He can speak to you and signify that the message is only what you have ask. The evidence is in the answer.
To buy something without first requiring evidence is a fool's errand, it makes you gullible. To buy something simply because you want it to be true is the beginning of delusion. Which are you?
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Jan 6, 2013
 
Drew Smith wrote:
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Oh, I've got a clue. My clue is that you like to engage in long, rambling, pointless posts.
Yeah, I get that.
Not at all like short authoritarian claims, based on judgmental opinions, meaningless statistics and unspoken but deep seated prejudices?

Yep. You're pretty much the same thing as a fundamentalist Christian. Just engaging in class warfare, playing the role of a puppet and not about to listen or add anything of value to this discussion.
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Play?
(duh lol)
Presumably, the inference was "play dough". I'm listening to you. You're disrupting me! My assertion that I was setting up was that biologically, there IS an evolutionary precedent for an inherent type of multi-tasking behavior.

It can and does exist in the gene pool, and the political dog-pack mentality is locked in a genocidal form of prejudice, playing a numbers game, and is completely unconcerned with rights and morality.

That is why this discussion goes on and on. That is why nobody is going to be taken seriously when they play for pathos, claiming complete irrationality from the other side. They're just as irrational and won't surrender a single toehold of authority to the real truth. This debate is not about science or religion. It's politics.
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FREE SERVANT wrote:
<quoted text>He can speak to you and signify that the message is only what you have ask. The evidence is in the answer.
And that is pure dreck, scientifically speaking.

Don't co-opt science as being supportive of your views. You're living in a private fantasy. You don't care about empirical evidence, scientific hypothesis nor peer review, not even the class-biased definition of "peer" that pervades the scientific community.

You might as well be the village idiot, taking coins for laughs.

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He can speak to you and signify that the message is only what you have ask. The evidence is in the answer.
I've read about a person who tried to solve his problem by closing his eyes, opening the Bible, pointing his finger, and reading the verse where his finger lands.

On the first round, he got "And he cast down the pieces of silver in the temple, and departed, and went and hanged himself." (Matthew 27:5)

On the second round, he got "Go, and do thou likewise." (Luke 10:37)
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I've read about a person who tried to solve his problem by closing his eyes, opening the Bible, pointing his finger, and reading the verse where his finger lands.
On the first round, he got "And he cast down the pieces of silver in the temple, and departed, and went and hanged himself." (Matthew 27:5)
On the second round, he got "Go, and do thou likewise." (Luke 10:37)
You know that FREESERVENT will probably insist that that WAS God's word, don't you?

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Thomas Robertson wrote:
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I've read about a person who tried to solve his problem by closing his eyes, opening the Bible, pointing his finger, and reading the verse where his finger lands.
On the first round, he got "And he cast down the pieces of silver in the temple, and departed, and went and hanged himself." (Matthew 27:5)
On the second round, he got "Go, and do thou likewise." (Luke 10:37)
I am guilty of that. lol

I started with the bible, then I started doing other books. It's almost like magic. I swear it works all the time for me whether it was a fiction or history book then it became anything. Try it it's fun.

It's called 'stichomancy' or what I like to say the magic touch.

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Not at all like short authoritarian claims
So you're saying that authoritarian claims are ok if they are accompanied by long, pointless rambles?
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based on judgmental opinions, meaningless statistics and unspoken but deep seated prejudices?
Funny, but you didn't demonstrate any "meaningless statistics" nor any "prejudices".

But it's good to know that your opinions aren't "judgmental".
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You're pretty much the same thing as a fundamentalist Christian. Just engaging in class warfare, playing the role of a puppet and not about to listen or add anything of value to this discussion.
Let us know when you add something of value to this discussion.

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Where is the evidence that this "message" can even be trusted, much less that it's from a god?
I have evidence. When you learn to trust it, it will occur more often.

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And that is pure dreck, scientifically speaking.
Don't co-opt science as being supportive of your views. You're living in a private fantasy. You don't care about empirical evidence, scientific hypothesis nor peer review, not even the class-biased definition of "peer" that pervades the scientific community.
You might as well be the village idiot, taking coins for laughs.
No you are just out of the 'loop'

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I have evidence. When you learn to trust it, it will occur more often.
To buy anything without first seeing the evidence that it's supported by facts is lunacy, making you gullible. To sell something without evidence makes you dishonest. Which are you trying to be?

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To buy anything without first seeing the evidence that it's supported by facts is lunacy, making you gullible. To sell something without evidence makes you dishonest. Which are you trying to be?
To see is to believe. Go ahead and be skeptical about it. It's not my problem that you can't make it work. Our brain is hardwired to the environment. You are just not aware.

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