Evolution vs. Creation

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Level 5

Since: Apr 12

Taizhou, China

#70089 Jan 6, 2013
FREE SERVANT wrote:

The Bible tells us that God has a record book of everyone and I would think he has a record of everything.

thewordofme wrote:

Do you think He has a computer nowadays??
Gotta' keep up with the times.

If he does, I wish he would post a message on this thread and settle the question once and for all.

“I Am No One Else”

Level 7

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#70090 Jan 6, 2013
Cybele wrote:
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You are clueless.
99% of mass of an atom is concentrated in the nucleus, and that the positively charged proton and negatively charged electron are bounded to the nucleus by 'electromagnetic force.'
Where does FORCE come from? My guess is, it's in the core of everything just like the nucleus of an atom.
If there was no guidance in chemical reactions, then 'why' would such electromagnetic force produce positive and negative properties that would later produce matter?
There are four forces of nature and twelve particles of matter .....

This isn't actually the hard stuff either. You don't know therefore "god" doesn't cut it. You are not even addressing stuff we don't know, which is just willful ignorance on your part. Just say you don't want to learn anything and move on, at least then you'd be honest.

“what we think we become”

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Since: Aug 11

above and beyond

#70091 Jan 6, 2013
TheIndependentMajority wrote:
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DUGWAY PROVING GROUND, Utah ó After a seven-year, 2.9 billion-mile round trip, NASA's Stardust space capsule floated down to a landing in the Utah desert early Sunday, bringing back interstellar dust and comet samples that scientists hope will yield clues to the origins of the solar system....
.....Stardustís sample return is the latest mission designed to study comets up close....
Six months earlier, NASA sent a probe called Deep Impact into the path of an onrushing comet. The high-speed collision with Comet Tempel 1 set off a celestial fireworks display in space and exposed the cometís primordial interior. Scientists have been analyzing the voluminous debris hurled from the cometís belly and are trying to figure out the size of the crater caused by the impact....
MSNBCStaff. Capsule of Comet Dust lands back on Earth. NBCNews-SPACE. 1/15/2006
Pancakes with syrup and bacon in moderation (HECK YEAH!) or Eggs, Biscuits and Gravy lol.
Add a 'plum pudding' for dessert

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plum_pudding_mod...

“I Am No One Else”

Level 7

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#70092 Jan 6, 2013
thewordofme wrote:
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Do you think He has a computer nowadays??
Gotta' keep up with the times.
If his followers are any clue to what he's like, then he also has Geoffery helping him turn it on every time.:P

“what we think we become”

Level 5

Since: Aug 11

above and beyond

#70093 Jan 6, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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There are four forces of nature and twelve particles of matter .....
This isn't actually the hard stuff either. You don't know therefore "god" doesn't cut it. You are not even addressing stuff we don't know, which is just willful ignorance on your part. Just say you don't want to learn anything and move on, at least then you'd be honest.
No I'm telling you the heart of the matter.

We're talking about atoms and I brought up sub-atomic particles that consists an atom. Let's focus on that since the topic became about the God Particle.

Or better yet, how did particle produce mass? In other words, where did a nucleus come from?

“I Am No One Else”

Level 7

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#70094 Jan 6, 2013
Cybele wrote:
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No I'm telling you the heart of the matter.
We're talking about atoms and I brought up sub-atomic particles that consists an atom. Let's focus on that since the topic became about the God Particle.
Or better yet, how did particle produce mass? In other words, where did a nucleus come from?
You mean the goddamn particle, well thanks to that we now have a natural explanation for how we have mass, that was the entire point of that particle in the first place.

“what we think we become”

Level 5

Since: Aug 11

above and beyond

#70095 Jan 6, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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You mean the goddamn particle, well thanks to that we now have a natural explanation for how we have mass, that was the entire point of that particle in the first place.
And what is your understanding about mass?

“I Am No One Else”

Level 7

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#70096 Jan 6, 2013
Cybele wrote:
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And what is your understanding about mass?
Ask a physicist.
FREE SERVANT

Bellevue, WA

#70098 Jan 6, 2013
Thomas Robertson wrote:
FREE SERVANT wrote:
The Bible tells us that God has a record book of everyone and I would think he has a record of everything.
thewordofme wrote:
Do you think He has a computer nowadays??
Gotta' keep up with the times.
If he does, I wish he would post a message on this thread and settle the question once and for all.
He already has given us a written message, just open a Bible randomly to any page and you will hear from him.

“I Am No One Else”

Level 7

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#70099 Jan 6, 2013
FREE SERVANT wrote:
<quoted text>He already has given us a written message, just open a Bible randomly to any page and you will hear from him.
Where is the evidence that this "message" can even be trusted, much less that it's from a god?
FREE SERVANT

Bellevue, WA

#70100 Jan 6, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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Where is the evidence that this "message" can even be trusted, much less that it's from a god?
He can speak to you and signify that the message is only what you have ask. The evidence is in the answer.

“I Am No One Else”

Level 7

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#70101 Jan 6, 2013
FREE SERVANT wrote:
<quoted text>He can speak to you and signify that the message is only what you have ask. The evidence is in the answer.
To buy something without first requiring evidence is a fool's errand, it makes you gullible. To buy something simply because you want it to be true is the beginning of delusion. Which are you?
anonymous

Franklin, PA

#70102 Jan 6, 2013
Drew Smith wrote:
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Oh, I've got a clue. My clue is that you like to engage in long, rambling, pointless posts.
Yeah, I get that.
Not at all like short authoritarian claims, based on judgmental opinions, meaningless statistics and unspoken but deep seated prejudices?

Yep. You're pretty much the same thing as a fundamentalist Christian. Just engaging in class warfare, playing the role of a puppet and not about to listen or add anything of value to this discussion.
anonymous

Franklin, PA

#70104 Jan 6, 2013
TheIndependentMajority wrote:
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Play?
(duh lol)
Presumably, the inference was "play dough". I'm listening to you. You're disrupting me! My assertion that I was setting up was that biologically, there IS an evolutionary precedent for an inherent type of multi-tasking behavior.

It can and does exist in the gene pool, and the political dog-pack mentality is locked in a genocidal form of prejudice, playing a numbers game, and is completely unconcerned with rights and morality.

That is why this discussion goes on and on. That is why nobody is going to be taken seriously when they play for pathos, claiming complete irrationality from the other side. They're just as irrational and won't surrender a single toehold of authority to the real truth. This debate is not about science or religion. It's politics.
anonymous

Franklin, PA

#70105 Jan 6, 2013
FREE SERVANT wrote:
<quoted text>He can speak to you and signify that the message is only what you have ask. The evidence is in the answer.
And that is pure dreck, scientifically speaking.

Don't co-opt science as being supportive of your views. You're living in a private fantasy. You don't care about empirical evidence, scientific hypothesis nor peer review, not even the class-biased definition of "peer" that pervades the scientific community.

You might as well be the village idiot, taking coins for laughs.

Level 5

Since: Apr 12

Taizhou, China

#70106 Jan 6, 2013
FREE SERVANT wrote:
He can speak to you and signify that the message is only what you have ask. The evidence is in the answer.
I've read about a person who tried to solve his problem by closing his eyes, opening the Bible, pointing his finger, and reading the verse where his finger lands.

On the first round, he got "And he cast down the pieces of silver in the temple, and departed, and went and hanged himself." (Matthew 27:5)

On the second round, he got "Go, and do thou likewise." (Luke 10:37)
anonymous

Franklin, PA

#70107 Jan 6, 2013
Thomas Robertson wrote:
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I've read about a person who tried to solve his problem by closing his eyes, opening the Bible, pointing his finger, and reading the verse where his finger lands.
On the first round, he got "And he cast down the pieces of silver in the temple, and departed, and went and hanged himself." (Matthew 27:5)
On the second round, he got "Go, and do thou likewise." (Luke 10:37)
You know that FREESERVENT will probably insist that that WAS God's word, don't you?

“what we think we become”

Level 5

Since: Aug 11

above and beyond

#70108 Jan 6, 2013
Thomas Robertson wrote:
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I've read about a person who tried to solve his problem by closing his eyes, opening the Bible, pointing his finger, and reading the verse where his finger lands.
On the first round, he got "And he cast down the pieces of silver in the temple, and departed, and went and hanged himself." (Matthew 27:5)
On the second round, he got "Go, and do thou likewise." (Luke 10:37)
I am guilty of that. lol

I started with the bible, then I started doing other books. It's almost like magic. I swear it works all the time for me whether it was a fiction or history book then it became anything. Try it it's fun.

It's called 'stichomancy' or what I like to say the magic touch.

Since: Feb 08

Tampa, FL

#70109 Jan 6, 2013
anonymous wrote:
Not at all like short authoritarian claims
So you're saying that authoritarian claims are ok if they are accompanied by long, pointless rambles?
anonymous wrote:
based on judgmental opinions, meaningless statistics and unspoken but deep seated prejudices?
Funny, but you didn't demonstrate any "meaningless statistics" nor any "prejudices".

But it's good to know that your opinions aren't "judgmental".
anonymous wrote:
You're pretty much the same thing as a fundamentalist Christian. Just engaging in class warfare, playing the role of a puppet and not about to listen or add anything of value to this discussion.
Let us know when you add something of value to this discussion.

“what we think we become”

Level 5

Since: Aug 11

above and beyond

#70110 Jan 6, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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Where is the evidence that this "message" can even be trusted, much less that it's from a god?
I have evidence. When you learn to trust it, it will occur more often.

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