Evolution vs. Creation

Evolution vs. Creation

There are 221485 comments on the Best of New Orleans story from Jan 6, 2011, titled Evolution vs. Creation. In it, Best of New Orleans reports that:

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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“I Am No One Else”

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#70017 Jan 5, 2013
FREE SERVANT wrote:
<quoted text>The Bible claims water was first.
Water wasn't first though.
TheIndependentMa jority

London, KY

#70018 Jan 5, 2013
Cybele wrote:
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We already know the secrets of the bible. Do you think the periodic table does too? I think it does. I think if scientists study it, they would find out things we don't know yet such as which atom came to existence first, etc. Before finding out about the God Particle (Higgs Boson), shouldn't we first know which atom was created first?
I wouldn't claim to know all the secrets of the Bible, especially since it states, rather simply ad plainly-no one does.

No, I don't think the Periodic table "knows" much of anything, basically because it's "chart" of compound references, as in an "inanimate object".

I also think that same "chart" is pretty much a basic prerequisite of study, for anyone even considering going into any scientific field.

Perhaps you should post your question on the "God Particle" to a Q and A board at CERN....they might get a good snicker on your behalf, if nothing else, out of it?
TheIndependentMa jority

London, KY

#70019 Jan 5, 2013
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>On the very good chance that you really are that ignorant:
"He [Higgs] is displeased that the Higgs particle is nicknamed the "God particle", as he believes the term "might offend people who are religious".
Usually this nickname for the Higgs boson is attributed to Leon Lederman, the author of the book The God Particle: If the Universe Is the Answer, What Is the Question?, but the name is the result of the insistence of Lederman's publisher: Lederman had originally intended to refer to it as the "goddamn particle"." - Wiki.
Not a credible source, please post the ORIGINAL origin.(as in why bother WASTING time and "rewriting" MUCH of what has ALREADY been written).

I figured that'd rile a few birdbrian feathers like yewrs--and here's my response to it-the "God Particle" was a BETTER choice.

No good sense in "damning" and cussing about something, just because it hasn't been figured out yet :-).

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#70020 Jan 5, 2013
neutral observer wrote:
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Jesus perhaps but where does it state in the Bible that God has a physical body? Is the Jewish/Christian/Moslem god not a spiritual being?
No reason to assume the presence of sexual organs. That would presume there was a god of another gender to...
I agree...

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#70021 Jan 5, 2013
This is odd...it's only after I post that I see all these responses...

Now I must go back and read these posts...that were not there a minute ago...

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#70022 Jan 5, 2013
neutral observer wrote:
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So the dust on the ground hypothesis presented in Genesis is wrong?
What about it just arising out of the primordial ooze?
Not exactly...there has to be a 'master chemist' there to arrange chemicals in the proper order...

Just as man takes dust, and arranges it into whatever he wants, through chemistry...but there has to be someone or something to orchestrate it...
TheIndependentMa jority

London, KY

#70023 Jan 5, 2013
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>On the very good chance that you really are that ignorant:
"He [Higgs] is displeased that the Higgs particle is nicknamed the "God particle", as he believes the term "might offend people who are religious".
Usually this nickname for the Higgs boson is attributed to Leon Lederman, the author of the book The God Particle: If the Universe Is the Answer, What Is the Question?, but the name is the result of the insistence of Lederman's publisher: Lederman had originally intended to refer to it as the "goddamn particle"." - Wiki.
Interesting-awarded the honor just THIS past year even!!!!

Lederman is known for his sense of humor and efforts to connect science at all levels with everyday people.


I always wanted to be a standup comic. I didn't have the talent to do that but, among physicists, I'm great, because none of them can tell jokes, Lederman said during an interview with the Academy of Achievement in 1992.

Leon Lederman is the 2012 recipient of the Vannevar Bush Award from the National Science Foundation. The annual award is given in memory of Vannevar Bush, who served as science advisor to President Franklin Roosevelt during World War II and was behind the creation of the National Science Foundation.

Eckstrom, E. "God particle' physicist Leon Lederman honored by National Science Foundation." Northwestern.Edu . 4/11/2012. Web. 1/5/2013.

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#70024 Jan 5, 2013
thewordofme wrote:
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Of course you don't know that, you are just projecting ad going with a 'feeling'.
IF there were some kind of God involved...he is long gone.
Please...you don't know what I know...

Life does not come from, magicaly spring from, dead, lifeless, non-bio matter or elements...that's science...
TheIndependentMa jority

London, KY

#70025 Jan 5, 2013
Cybele wrote:
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or you can make up a lie that reveals the truth. You really need a JUMP start in your brain. It's called search engine. lol
There's not one single search engine that "knows all" either.

No such thing.

“I Am No One Else”

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Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#70026 Jan 5, 2013
Time and Space wrote:
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Not exactly...there has to be a 'master chemist' there to arrange chemicals in the proper order...
Just as man takes dust, and arranges it into whatever he wants, through chemistry...but there has to be someone or something to orchestrate it...
So basically you're saying chemistry itself is all a lie.

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#70027 Jan 5, 2013
thewordofme wrote:
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If EVERYTHING has to have a creator, then God had to have one. You can't have it both ways
If God created space/time, then he would be outside of space/time and therefore be infinite in nature.

( This idea is referenced by many through out history.)

Even the latest developments in Quantum Physics support this concept with the Observer Effect.

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#70028 Jan 5, 2013
Cybele wrote:
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or you can make up a lie that reveals the truth. You really need a JUMP start in your brain. It's called search engine. lol
True Lies?...(lol)
TheIndependentMa jority

London, KY

#70029 Jan 5, 2013
xxxooxxx wrote:
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If God created space/time, then he would be outside of space/time and therefore be infinite in nature.
( This idea is referenced by many through out history.)
Even the latest developments in Quantum Physics support this concept with the Observer Effect.
AND the "God Particle".

(Good choice, and applause lol)
TheIndependentMa jority

London, KY

#70030 Jan 5, 2013
"The search for the ultimate particle began with a Greek philosopher named Democritus, Lederman writes, who managed to postulate the existence of the ``a-tom''--in spite of an unaccommodating myth-based culture, the scorn and amusement of his peers, and a total lack of... any concrete proof..."

Lederman, Leon. The God Particle. If the Universe Is the Answer, What Is the Question? Houghton Mifflin, 1993. 352. Print.

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Since: May 08

Orlando

#70031 Jan 5, 2013
Time and Space wrote:
You don't get 'guts'...and strands of DNA, RNA with millions of coded messages, out of inatimate space dust...
Get over it...
Amino acids, alcohol, water, & complex organic compounds have all been detected in interstellar space.

Also in the interiors of meteorites found on earth, and in the tails of comets that the earth frequently passes through.

Get over it...
TheIndependentMa jority

London, KY

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#70033 Jan 5, 2013
Time and Space wrote:
The more I look at the complexeties of living organisms...the more I'm convenced there is a creator...or maybe a whole bunch of creators...
None of this is happen chance...
exactly...it is intuitional knowledge.

("Intuition is the ability to acquire knowledge without inference and/or the use of reason.")

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#70034 Jan 5, 2013
TheIndependentMajority wrote:
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AND the "God Particle".
(Good choice, and applause lol)
(TY)

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Everett, WA

#70035 Jan 5, 2013
Time and Space wrote:
<quoted text>
Not exactly...there has to be a 'master chemist' there to arrange chemicals in the proper order...
Just as man takes dust, and arranges it into whatever he wants, through chemistry...but there has to be someone or something to orchestrate it...
Clearly you have no idea of the present state of abiogenesis.

You make countless claims of what had to happen without giving any evidence that supports those claims.

As the great Hitch said, Claims made without any evidence can be dismissed without any evidence.

You need to try harder.

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#70036 Jan 5, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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So basically you're saying chemistry itself is all a lie.
Of course not....

Chemistry is true...

But every thing invented, that you use today, every product that you use...did not magically just come to be...or exist...

Someone, a chemist, arraingend the chemicals, heat ect ect...combinations, to get desired product...

Aluminum cans didn't just put themselves together through chance evolution...ok...

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