Evolution vs. Creation

[KittenKoder]

mee wrote:

nope.... I am still NOT convinced that we came from apes. I don't know how we all came about, but it can't be from apes.
They cannot be my ancestors,NO WAY !!!!!!!
My heart and mind is my scientific evidence on this subject,until I see real proof in the future.

Saying "it can't be from" means you are saying you do know, so you contradicted yourself and exposed yourself to be a liar for your god in only a couple sentences. Still not a record, there are some on here who have done that same thing in three words.

[xxxooxxx]

Cybele wrote:

I think Science will become the new religion of future generations. That's the only way to save the evolution of our species.

now that's a scary thought.

[KittenKoder]

xxxooxxx wrote:

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now that's a scary thought.

Yeah, because it would destroy the actual benefit of science.

[xxxooxxx]

"I know this world is ruled by infinite intelligence. Everything that surrounds us- everything that exists - proves that there are infinite laws behind it. There can be no denying this fact. It is mathematical in its precision."

Thomas A. Edison

[KittenKoder]

xxxooxxx wrote:

"I know this world is ruled by infinite intelligence. Everything that surrounds us- everything that exists - proves that there are infinite laws behind it. There can be no denying this fact. It is mathematical in its precision."
Thomas A. Edison

Meh, appeal to antiquity ... or emotion, possibly authority. Too lazy to look it up. But you are talking about a quote from someone living in a time when they didn't even know that quantum mechanics explains "something from nothing" as well as chemistry explaining how life functions or that stars are actually balls of burning plasma generating heavy elements .... well there's a lot they had no idea existed at the time really. Because the mathematical "precision" is anything but precise, certainly not organized, and without a doubt not tailored for life to exist.

[xxxooxxx]

KittenKoder wrote:

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Yeah, because it would destroy the actual benefit of science.

I would bet that your a big Dianetics fan.

[anonymous]

Drew Smith wrote:

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In a court of law, the opinion of the court is all that matters. They don't have to base their decisions on what is "biologically normal". They base their decisions on human rights.
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Marriage is more than merely a financial contract. It comes with a set of rights and responsibilities, effectively making each partner in the marriage the legal next-of-kin.
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Nobody is "handing out" anything. When two people marry, they alter their set of legal obligations toward each other. You have the right to marry. If you don't want to exercise that right, nobody is forcing you to do so.

The opinion of the court is all that matters? Wow! That is vigilantism. The conservatives are right!

So, where does "legal next-of-kin" mean anything other than a financial contract? We're not talking necrophilia now, are we?

People are "handing out" tax breaks, and with legal recognition of homosexuality as a "normal condition", a lot more through inevitable social engineering programs.

You're right, I do have the right to marry. It won't be long before the majority are people who don't get married because both the liberal and conservative parties are only interested in enslaving everyone with legal obligations through marriage.

They've already shaken down the single people. The married majority knows that they are next because the party loyalists just aren't going to pay their share. Who's left? Illegal aliens, the other unfunded idiot agenda of the liberals. Who's going to pay for their votes? The liberals are dead. The conservatives can wait them out, but NOBODY is going to give working people a chance, so it's brinkmanship as usual.

Anyway, nobody is about to welcome the married majority with open arms. That's why change will come abruptly and painfully, but it will come. Greed on everyone's part means that bad karma will have to run its course. I don't expect a good government to replace the $hithole that this one has become either.

Finally, this forum is not about gay marriage. Stop sounding like Charles Idemi, demanding gay marriage as a Constitutional right when it isn't. The word marriage is not mentioned once in the Constitution.

http://www.usconstitution.net/constnot.html#m...

You want judicial opinion, you've got it. Most judges hate to go out on a limb. You can bet that the Supreme Court isn't going to act until Congress does, and that ain't happening anytime soon.

Anyway, I'm going back on topic!

[xxxooxxx]

KittenKoder wrote:

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Meh, appeal to antiquity ... or emotion, possibly authority. Too lazy to look it up. But you are talking about a quote from someone living in a time when they didn't even know that quantum mechanics explains "something from nothing" as well as chemistry explaining how life functions or that stars are actually balls of burning plasma generating heavy elements .... well there's a lot they had no idea existed at the time really. Because the mathematical "precision" is anything but precise, certainly not organized, and without a doubt not tailored for life to exist.

It was pointed out before on this thread that "something from nothing" is basically a buddhist concept. The idea has been around for thousands of years.

[KittenKoder]

xxxooxxx wrote:

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I would bet that your a big Dianetics fan.

I am not a fan of any religion, but as for the science fiction, never read it. I prefer more scientific authors like Asimov and Lovecraft.

[anonymous]

xxxooxxx wrote:

"I know this world is ruled by infinite intelligence. Everything that surrounds us- everything that exists - proves that there are infinite laws behind it. There can be no denying this fact. It is mathematical in its precision."
Thomas A. Edison

Infinite BS, maybe.

There can be no denying this is useless politics from someone who's run out of ideas.- scientist looking for investors or government funding.

[KittenKoder]

xxxooxxx wrote:

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It was pointed out before on this thread that "something from nothing" is basically a buddhist concept. The idea has been around for thousands of years.

Your point? Quantum mechanics demonstrates how it can happen, that was my point.

[anonymous]

KittenKoder wrote:

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I am not a fan of any religion, but as for the science fiction, never read it. I prefer more scientific authors like Asimov and Lovecraft.

L.Ron. Hubbard was a low-life. Check out his bio.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L._Ron_Hubbard

[xxxooxxx]

KittenKoder wrote:

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Meh, appeal to antiquity ... or emotion, possibly authority. Too lazy to look it up. But you are talking about a quote from someone living in a time when they didn't even know that quantum mechanics explains "something from nothing" as well as chemistry explaining how life functions or that stars are actually balls of burning plasma generating heavy elements .... well there's a lot they had no idea existed at the time really. Because the mathematical "precision" is anything but precise, certainly not organized, and without a doubt not tailored for life to exist.

besides I'm not buying the quantum "something from nothing" because of the fact that there must be possibility before you can get something from nothing...so how can you have nothing if possibility exist?

...and the only way possibility can exist, is with the Observer Effect.

[xxxooxxx]

anonymous wrote:

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Infinite BS, maybe.
There can be no denying this is useless politics from someone who's run out of ideas.- scientist looking for investors or government funding.

Sorry...I'm going with Edison. I do believe he was more qualify.

[xxxooxxx]

anonymous wrote:

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Infinite BS, maybe.
There can be no denying this is useless politics from someone who's run out of ideas.- scientist looking for investors or government funding.

Oh...sorry again...I overlooked maybe..

[KittenKoder]

xxxooxxx wrote:

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besides I'm not buying the quantum "something from nothing" because of the fact that there must be possibility before you can get something from nothing...so how can you have nothing if possibility exist?
...and the only way possibility can exist, is with the Observer Effect.

You just want to twist anything to justify a belief in something you want to believe because it "feels" good. Yet your belief hinges on the exact same qualifications as naturalistic methods. If your something can come from nothing, then anything can come from nothing.

[xxxooxxx]

KittenKoder wrote:

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Your point? Quantum mechanics demonstrates how it can happen, that was my point.

my point?...my point is that people that you claim to be primitive... because of the lack of today's science, were not as primitive as you think.

[anonymous]

xxxooxxx wrote:

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Sorry...I'm going with Edison. I do believe he was more qualify.

Yeah, being an inventor makes him an authority on God. I've heard that logic before. Sounds fundamentalist to me.

[anonymous]

xxxooxxx wrote:

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Oh...sorry again...I overlooked maybe..

Didn't quite catch my parody? Well, you get my gist about authority.

[xxxooxxx]

KittenKoder wrote:

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You just want to twist anything to justify a belief in something you want to believe because it "feels" good. Yet your belief hinges on the exact same qualifications as naturalistic methods. If your something can come from nothing, then anything can come from nothing.

You deny your own science because you cannot except the possibility of "God"...when in fact you state that " anything can come from nothing "

So what you are really saying is "anything can come from nothing, except "God"