Evolution vs. Creation

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008. Full Story

“I Am No One To Be Trifled With”

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#69663 Jan 2, 2013
Hey...

“what we think we become”

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#69664 Jan 2, 2013
anonymous wrote:
<quoted text>It's the shirt, dude!
I've come to expect a mix of lucid and obscure posts from IM. Not much point in asking.
IM is in denial. All she does is inflict fear and guilt because she takes the literal meaning of the bible. She is no different than a dic-tator.

“I Am No One To Be Trifled With”

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#69665 Jan 2, 2013
Vampires, werewolves and zombies still show that evolution is true...

If they don't exist...than evolution can't possibly exist either as true...

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#69666 Jan 2, 2013
ChristineM wrote:
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Wrong.
Humanity, morality and civilisation developed long before the babble or threats of hell were even thought of.
What/who has the babble brought us? I could mention Adam Lanza (Catholic and child killer), James Holmes (Christian and child killer), Anders Behring Breivik (Fundamentalist Christian mass murderer). How about Radovan Karadzic and Ratko Mladic (both committed genocide against Moslems in the name of their christian church). The IRA (mass murdering terrorist catholics), the NLFT (Good christian murderers all). Or the KKK and anti abortionists in the US and Canada (each adhering to good old christian teachings). Not to mention Hitler (Catholic who did what he did in the name of his god and his love of jesus) and Stalin (Orthodox Christian tipped to a priest) and of course Pol Pot who was influenced by 15 years of Christian schooling.
The babble teaches genocide, child murder, mass murder, rape, slavery and conquest.
From you god being the first recorded mass murderer in history GE 6:11-17, 7:11-24
You lord committing mass child murder EX 12:29
Your god condones slavery and rape DT 20:13-14
You babble teaches human sacrifice LE 27:29 and JG 11:30-39
Just a few of David's murderous conquests 2SA 8:1-18
Nice...almost word for word my response to the typical warm-fuzzy-religion types...of course, they like the 'I'm not an Old Testament' believer, more of a New Testament type...until you remind them about creating the universe, the commandments, the Flood, etc, etc...I'm always amused to watch the dance...never disappointed, either!lol

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#69667 Jan 2, 2013
Knightmare wrote:
Vampires, werewolves and zombies still show that evolution is true...
If they don't exist...than evolution can't possibly exist either as true...
Psychologically speaking yes

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#69668 Jan 2, 2013
Denail

in ordinary English usage, is asserting that a statement or allegation is not true. The same word, and also abnegation, is used for a psychological defense

“I started out with nothing”

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and still got most of it left

#69669 Jan 2, 2013
GatorBUILT wrote:
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Nice...almost word for word my response to the typical warm-fuzzy-religion types...of course, they like the 'I'm not an Old Testament' believer, more of a New Testament type...until you remind them about creating the universe, the commandments, the Flood, etc, etc...I'm always amused to watch the dance...never disappointed, either!lol
Thanks ( great minds eh?)

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#69671 Jan 2, 2013
greymouser wrote:
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"Everyone has a set of ethics."
That statement alone could spawn off an entirely new thread.
So, if you don't use the Bible as a source of ethics (and ignore it when convenient), where do you derive your ethics? You were born with them?
it's called con-science

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

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#69672 Jan 2, 2013
anonymous wrote:
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S'alright! It's what I get for posting an apparently less than obvious parody!
Thanks.

I usually catch those...

“I have upset the hand of god”

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#69673 Jan 2, 2013
greymouser wrote:
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Nope. They're heathens awaiting to hear the gospels. But perhaps I misunderstood evangelical preachers on TV.
Without the Bible threats of Hell, we'd all be murderers, thieves, adulterers, perjurers, and boiling young goats in their mother's milk.
Sorry to have to tell you this. I disagree and there is ample evidence from numerous cultures both before and after the Bible that agree with my view. The Bible is a good book, but you don't need it to have a set of ethics.

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#69674 Jan 2, 2013
Knightmare wrote:
Vampires, werewolves and zombies still show that evolution is true...
If they don't exist...than evolution can't possibly exist either as true...
How do you make this nonsense fly in your own head?

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#69675 Jan 2, 2013
ChristineM wrote:
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Wrong.
Humanity, morality and civilisation developed long before the babble or threats of hell were even thought of.
What/who has the babble brought us? I could mention Adam Lanza (Catholic and child killer), James Holmes (Christian and child killer), Anders Behring Breivik (Fundamentalist Christian mass murderer). How about Radovan Karadzic and Ratko Mladic (both committed genocide against Moslems in the name of their christian church). The IRA (mass murdering terrorist catholics), the NLFT (Good christian murderers all). Or the KKK and anti abortionists in the US and Canada (each adhering to good old christian teachings). Not to mention Hitler (Catholic who did what he did in the name of his god and his love of jesus) and Stalin (Orthodox Christian tipped to a priest) and of course Pol Pot who was influenced by 15 years of Christian schooling.
The babble teaches genocide, child murder, mass murder, rape, slavery and conquest.
From you god being the first recorded mass murderer in history GE 6:11-17, 7:11-24
You lord committing mass child murder EX 12:29
Your god condones slavery and rape DT 20:13-14
You babble teaches human sacrifice LE 27:29 and JG 11:30-39
Just a few of David's murderous conquests 2SA 8:1-18
Nicely supported answer.

“I Am No One To Be Trifled With”

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#69676 Jan 2, 2013
DanFromSmithville wrote:
<quoted text>How do you make this nonsense fly in your own head?
The same way vampires fly...

“I Am No One Else”

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#69677 Jan 2, 2013
xxxooxxx wrote:
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It's such a cool concept though...no speculations at all?( all religious implication aside)
after all it is quantum physics.
Nope, none. Not my area of study so I have zero interest in it, and since I'm unwilling to pretend to have one answer for everything, I cannot speculate on anything I have not studied.

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#69678 Jan 2, 2013
TheIndependentMajority wrote:
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OR- when read by people actually containing some intelligence, it shows the history of mankind in it's evil wickedness, and how to avoid being wicked, and E-VILE.
Okay, so now you're saying it wasn't interpretation but intelligence that caused "incorrect" understanding of it? No true Scotsman fallacy, you know how to use it well ....

... not well enough for me though. If you read it with intelligence, without that dreamy confirmation bias or the desires to know more than other people without doing the work, you'd call it smut. What did you think of the movie The Human Centipede? It's pretty horrible, no? It's certainly smut, yet it contains the same amount of smut as one chapter in the bible, of the same quality, just a different plot. Just look at Passions of the Christ, that was considered one of the "must see" smut movies, the people who get off on death, violence, and gore loved it. It was literally a porn flick to them. Want more? Noah, his daughters raped their own dad, after an apocalyptic event. Such smut you teach your kids simply because you want them to think you have all the answers, you force yourself to believe the nonsense so you can pretend you know all the answers. But all you have in the end is one non-answer, "god dun it," not an answer, it's an assertion. So tell us, where is your answer to everything?

“Darwin was right..of course.”

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#69679 Jan 2, 2013
TheIndependentMajority wrote:
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No... no it's not-not at all. It's a good base, to decent, ethical people with some morality to them...trying to live decent, ethical lives with some morality anyway.
No matter what is or isn't "beyond".
So your BS about other peoples opinions is "burnt" toast-only "fit" for the gutter trash piles.
Check with the theologians and apologist and see if they aren't wrestling with the loss of Adam and Eve. And yes, it makes a tremendous tear in the 1700 year old Christian dogma.
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#69681 Jan 2, 2013
greymouser wrote:
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"Everyone has a set of ethics."

That statement alone could spawn off an entirely new thread.

So, if you don't use the Bible as a source of ethics (and ignore it when convenient), where do you derive your ethics? You were born with them?
Of course everyone has a set of ethics. Take the nazis for example. If not for the fact that they considered it unethical for Germans and Jews to... there would have been no Holocaust.

Just as Stalin and Mao considered the bourgeoisie as a class unethical.

Or Al Quieda considers the secular west unethical.

A sense of ethics is what causes most of humanity's problems.
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Lake Worth, FL

#69682 Jan 2, 2013
FREE SERVANT wrote:
<quoted text>We suffer and die because of their disregard for the word of God.
So because Adam dissed God by taking a bite of the apple himself after God asked... people who have no connection whatsoever to either of them are to be tortured for all eternity? Hmmmm. Is your point that God is a sadist who laid a trap in the Garden of Eden?
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Lake Worth, FL

#69683 Jan 2, 2013
TheIndependentMajority wrote:
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You're lump and labelduhm ignorantly stereotyping there Kirk...or Spock.. McCoy, Sulu...which ever one you gotz avatared there lol.
Proof of the hand of God? If Vulcans are the product of a completely different and random evolutionary process on an alien planet... Spock could not exist.
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Lake Worth, FL

#69684 Jan 2, 2013
anonymous wrote:
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The act of homosexuality is sex without reproduction. Yes, I call that a disease. It's harmful to biology. The slippery slope was always there. You just don't like the wording. That's not my problem.
Is oral and anal sex between heterosexuals kosher with you? Pretty much the same body parts are involved

I suppose the song "every sperm is sacred"...

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