Evolution vs. Creation

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High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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A pattern by its very nature is a design and an intended template or scheme. The pattern or motif in natural systems could also be a plan or purpose for specific project. Life is brought about by a system which makes a copy or close duplicate anew by the reproductive propagation of past patterns.

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Is there any truth to this rumor I once heard?
I heard Darwin had a woman read from the bible outside his window in his final days.
Why would he have done that?
Did he really believe what he convinced so many others to believe?
Thats only rumor.

"Why would he have done that?..."

Comfort in pain and uncertainty.

I don't doubt that he would want something to be read that comforted him in his final days.

My dad wanted to be read the bible.

I would have read him anything he wanted, keates, yates, anything he wante.

He wanted the bible, psalm 19 was his favorite.

But in the end it was just having family closeby that mattered.

As far as WHAT Darwin believed when he was on his deathbed, it doesn't really matter, he was just a man looking for comfort in his final days, and was blessed to find people who cared for him.

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The Observer Effect(quantum physics)... basically implies that the Universe could not have come into existence with out an Observer being present.

If this indeed be the case...then where is the Observer now?

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Yeah, being an inventor makes him an authority on God. I've heard that logic before. Sounds fundamentalist to me.
Well, Edison's efforts are verifiable and repeatable.

How's your deity doing on those?

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I give up...what?(lol)
I don't know either.

Next question: Is it right to prose-cute a sinner?

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The Observer Effect(quantum physics)... basically implies that the Universe could not have come into existence with out an Observer being present.
If this indeed be the case...then where is the Observer now?
it's a subtle light

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I am just expressing my opinion on this subject. I did not contradict myself or am I a liar.
Now you are a liar or extremely ignorant.

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cool videos...excellent.
Thank you.

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FREE SERVANT wrote:
Even stones are examples of patterns and the agate stone is an aesthetic pattern of crystal cells which impose a recognition of a motif like art in many of the stones that can be seen by most who study them. The design is there to behold.
Still waiting for evidence to suggest that they are "directed" by anything beyond the physical and natural laws of the universe, as outlined and predicted by scientific inquiry.

Again though, anthropomorphizing is a very well understood act of the mind. You will see a pattern even where there is none, and the pattern will always look like what you imagine it to.

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Still waiting for evidence to suggest that they are "directed" by anything beyond the physical and natural laws of the universe, as outlined and predicted by scientific inquiry.
Again though, anthropomorphizing is a very well understood act of the mind. You will see a pattern even where there is none, and the pattern will always look like what you imagine it to.
ya and you are a mushroom

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IReasonablyI wrote:
Is there any truth to this rumor I once heard?
I heard Darwin had a woman read from the bible outside his window in his final days.
Why would he have done that?
Did he really believe what he convinced so many others to believe?
There have been a few of these lies throughout the years. We KNOW them to be liars for Jesus and ignore them. His wife was at his bedside and wrote about how he died.

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I'm sure he thought along the same lines as Einstein, when it came to the concept of God... incomprehensible.
No, we have quotes from Edison...he was a total atheists, unlike Einstein who was a deist or mild agnostic. Look him up and read about him.

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Is there any truth to this rumor I once heard?
I heard Darwin had a woman read from the bible outside his window in his final days.
Why would he have done that?
Did he really believe what he convinced so many others to believe?
I highly doubt it...

It's a scarey moment when you got to die alone...it's a very lonely moment...

And instictively he was probablly seeking out love and assurance from a higher 'being'...a supernatural entity, that was offering it to him...

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Is there any truth to this rumor I once heard?
I heard Darwin had a woman read from the bible outside his window in his final days.
Why would he have done that?
Did he really believe what he convinced so many others to believe?
It also amazes me how some souls don't think it possible for 'god' to be here, but yet they're here...conscious and aware, and able to create...

But yet trillions of years before their existance...this could not have ever occured before...

How one could be so close minded, just to prooves ones disdain for Christanity, is beyond me...

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A pattern by its very nature is a design and an intended template or scheme. The pattern or motif in natural systems could also be a plan or purpose for specific project. Life is brought about by a system which makes a copy or close duplicate anew by the reproductive propagation of past patterns.
Still doesn't prove your Christian God my friend.

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No, we have quotes from Edison...he was a total atheists, unlike Einstein who was a deist or mild agnostic. Look him up and read about him.
He said "I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work."

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It also amazes me how some souls don't think it possible for 'god' to be here, but yet they're here...conscious and aware, and able to create...
But yet trillions of years before their existance...this could not have ever occured before...
How one could be so close minded, just to prooves ones disdain for Christanity, is beyond me...
Your last point is just projection.

There have been things created by other animals, one of the oldest forms of architecture are nests, birds commonly build these. Some animals exhibit artistic capabilities as well.

Of course it took a while for us to evolve, there had to be enough mutations for something with a more selfish gene to alter the environment around them instead of just live in it.

To your god thing, where is evidence that such exists? I'm curious to actually have some evidence supporting one to study and analyze, so far no one has given any. It would be nice to have more than blind assertions from believers, so we could stop calling you delusional.

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I don't trust internet links as proof.
Oh really, you wouldn't trust links to colleges or universities or other scientific sites.

We know you're not a Luddite because you use the computer...what's up??

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Wonder how I would have conducted my life had I not been taught about Jesus as the Son of God.
More educated, for one.

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Your last point is just projection.
There have been things created by other animals, one of the oldest forms of architecture are nests, birds commonly build these. Some animals exhibit artistic capabilities as well.
Of course it took a while for us to evolve, there had to be enough mutations for something with a more selfish gene to alter the environment around them instead of just live in it.
To your god thing, where is evidence that such exists? I'm curious to actually have some evidence supporting one to study and analyze, so far no one has given any. It would be nice to have more than blind assertions from believers, so we could stop calling you delusional.
What makes you think you could find God when you haven't really found yourself?

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