Evolution vs. Creation

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High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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Dec 31, 2012
 
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It's a different matter entirely. The wiki gives a pretty good description so I won't repeat that part.
Let's take something we all know on here well enough, I will refrain from referencing specific persons or posts though:
Take someone who is overly sexual, either because that's how they are or because they have been brainwashed into thinking that's how they should be. The brainwashing version is actually quite typical of women in the US, they like to fill our heads with this "women should be sensual" bull and give us "baby" dolls as young girls to enforce it.
So they become overly sexual and deep down feel shame for that as well, a side effect of religious doctrine. Thus they over sexualize everything, to them everything has to be about sex because that's all they believe they should think about, but they struggle with the "teaching" that it's wrong to think about it so they feel guilty in some way.
Along comes someone who shows no sexual urges, no drive at all, so they try to find anything they can to call sexual, even when there is nothing sexual about it, as a way to say, in their mind, "that person likes sex a lot so I must be 'normal'." Even though outwardly they'll say things like "that's a sin and you should be ashamed of it." I also call it "forced common ground," because they are trying to bridge a gap that's not even there by using their own traits completely ignoring any possibility that the other person has different traits.
I hope I explained it well and didn't ramble too much. Psychology is a fascinating subject, and seeing such a strong case of any psychological trait in a single person spikes my interest in them.
You are preoccupied with ignorance. You never had a sexual life.......get over it, it's not important. You were no doubt abused as a child......get over it. You are a hateful person who only sends hate. Get over it all. Every message you send is filled with doubt, sour opinion and total ignorance in everything.........GET A LIFE.

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Dec 31, 2012
 
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You were speculating on what is normal. I gave you a realistic answer.
You gave me *an* answer. The problem is, the word "normal" has more than one meaning. That something is common or usual is one of those meanings. But it isn't relevant to human rights.

So what else do you mean by "normal"?
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This isn't a "rights" issue because nobody has taken anyone's rights away.
If one couple has their marriage given legal recognition, and another couple does not, and the only difference is the genders of the individuals involved, then yes, it's a rights issue.

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Dec 31, 2012
 
Ever heard of the marriage penalty? Unequal for *married people*.
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There's always ways around that. Separate filing etc.
So what, again, is the detriment here to single taxpayers?
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Dec 31, 2012
 
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You gave me *an* answer. The problem is, the word "normal" has more than one meaning. That something is common or usual is one of those meanings. But it isn't relevant to human rights.
So what else do you mean by "normal"?
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If one couple has their marriage given legal recognition, and another couple does not, and the only difference is the genders of the individuals involved, then yes, it's a rights issue.
Exactly, normal can mean many things, but in a court of law, only the voting majority and the biological "normal" matter. Homosexuality does not meet either criteria.

Now, legal recognition means what exactly? Marriage is voluntarily entered into. If you want a contract, you're talking about a financial contract. Anything else, is political. The state has not explicitly gotten involved in enforcing contracts of marriage for the children but it is somewhat implicit. After all, us single people have our rights too, don't we? No, actually we don't, but we're supposed to be grateful because we were kids once too.

All that's left is the real victims, the single parents who have the full burden of raising kids, the stigma of not keeping their contract, and more often than not, the victims of prejudicial treatment against females.

EVERYONE has rights. You're handing out privileges.
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Dec 31, 2012
 
Drew Smith wrote:
Ever heard of the marriage penalty? Unequal for *married people*.
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So what, again, is the detriment here to single taxpayers?
Inheritance taxes, plain and simple. I won't waste too much time on the prejudicial treatment by insurance agencies, no safety net when unemployed, and let's face it, unequal pay. Go ahead and deny it. See if I care.

There's probably income tax loopholes for them to exploit too but yes, in recant years most have been shut down.

So anyway, what's the recognition that one must have that civil unions can't provide? Granted, in their current form, they don't carry the same weight in some states. But if they did, that wouldn't be enough, would it? Politics.
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You are preoccupied with ignorance. You never had a sexual life.......get over it, it's not important. You were no doubt abused as a child......get over it. You are a hateful person who only sends hate. Get over it all. Every message you send is filled with doubt, sour opinion and total ignorance in everything.........GET A LIFE.
I think she'd pretty much said that she had gotten over it. What's your point and why is it hateful to be reclusive?

I can lust after the young girls but never pursue them. I can tune out religious dogma that expects me to breed by their rules. What I'd like to know is what's YOUR issue, or are you just putting on a new hat to carry on an old cat fight?

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Dec 31, 2012
 
English Sprichst Du das auch dann?

Ok well I am thinking to what there is to a debating...A solution this would be the time of a making hu a new in a Year to one thing?

Can someone think of a millions a Thousand at least or not?

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Dec 31, 2012
 
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I think she'd pretty much said that she had gotten over it. What's your point and why is it hateful to be reclusive?
I can lust after the young girls but never pursue them. I can tune out religious dogma that expects me to breed by their rules. What I'd like to know is what's YOUR issue, or are you just putting on a new hat to carry on an old cat fight?
Dogs cats and rats and Birds too GOD I hope they keep it together and don't steal each other's pet food...

Well theer are always treats though ...

So what's easy to tune out? It's new years dare and share...Truth ...

Hey there's a guy in the other thread he swears by truths...

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Dec 31, 2012
 
GET A LIFE that was a cream wow...

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GET A LIFE that was a cream wow...
Spells mom backwards...upside down or west ost west...
I think that I could hit on you and score..........are you my babe in 2013?
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Dec 31, 2012
 
Bored much?

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Bored much?
Do you have 'Kodak Moments' in Kodak, TN??

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in a court of law, only the voting majority and the biological "normal" matter.
In a court of law, the opinion of the court is all that matters. They don't have to base their decisions on what is "biologically normal". They base their decisions on human rights.
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Marriage is voluntarily entered into. If you want a contract, you're talking about a financial contract.
Marriage is more than merely a financial contract. It comes with a set of rights and responsibilities, effectively making each partner in the marriage the legal next-of-kin.
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EVERYONE has rights. You're handing out privileges.
Nobody is "handing out" anything. When two people marry, they alter their set of legal obligations toward each other. You have the right to marry. If you don't want to exercise that right, nobody is forcing you to do so.

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So what, again, is the detriment here to single taxpayers?
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Inheritance taxes, plain and simple.
And this has what to do with marriage, exactly?
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I won't waste too much time on the prejudicial treatment by insurance agencies, no safety net when unemployed, and let's face it, unequal pay.
And this has what to do with marriage, exactly?
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So anyway, what's the recognition that one must have that civil unions can't provide? Granted, in their current form, they don't carry the same weight in some states. But if they did, that wouldn't be enough, would it?
If you've already got a legal institution of marriage, please explain why it would be beneficial to create *another* legal institution, called "civil union", that has the same recognition. For what purpose? What's the problem with using the *existing* legal institution?

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Dec 31, 2012
 
I want to wish a SAFE, happy and prosperous New Year to all of you...It's been fun arguing with everybody.

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Dec 31, 2012
 
TheIndependentMajority wrote:
To the citizens of the United States of America, in the light of your failure to elect a competent President of the USA and thus to govern yourselves, we hereby give notice of the revocation of your independence, effective today. Her Sovereign Majesty Queen Elizabeth II will resume monarchical duties over all states, commonwealths and other territories. Except Utah, which she does not fancy.
Your new prime minister (The Right Honourable Tony Blair, MP, for the 97.85% of you who have until now been unaware that there is a world outside your borders) will appoint a minister for America without the need for further elections. Congress and the Senate will be disbanded. A questionnaire will be circulated next year to determine whether any of you noticed.
To aid in the transition to a British Crown dependency, the following rules are introduced with immediate effect:
You should look up "revocation" in the Oxford English Dictionary. Then look up "aluminium." Check the pronunciation guide. You will be amazed at just how wrongly you have been pronouncing it. The letter U' will be reinstated in words such as 'favour' and 'neighbour', skipping the letter 'U' is nothing more than laziness on your part. Likewise, you will learn to spell 'doughnut' without skipping half the letters. You will end your love affair with the letter 'Z'(pronounced 'zed' not 'zee') and the suffix "ize" will be replaced by the suffix "ise." You will learn that the suffix 'burgh' is pronounced 'burra' e.g. Edinburgh. You are welcome to respell Pittsburgh as 'Pittsberg' if you can't cope with correct pronunciation. Generally, you should raise your vocabulary to acceptable levels. Look up "vocabulary."
Using the same twenty seven words interspersed with filler noises such as "like" and "you know" is an unacceptable and inefficient form of communication. Look up "interspersed." There will be no more 'bleeps' in the Jerry Springer show. If you're not old enough to cope with bad language then you shouldn't have chat shows. When you learn to develop your vocabulary then you won't have to use bad language as often.
There is no such thing as "US English." We will let Microsoft know on your behalf. The Microsoft spell-checker will be adjusted to take account of thereinstated letter 'u' and the elimination of "-ize."
You should learn to distinguish the English and Australian accents. It really isn't that hard. English accents are not limited to cockney, upper-class twit, or Mancunian (Daphne in Frasier). You will also have to learn how to understand regional accents -- Scottish dramas such as "Taggart" will no longer be broadcast with subtitles. While we're talking about regions, you must learn that there is no such place as Devonshire in England. The name of the county is "Devon." If you persist in calling it Devonshire, all American States will become "shires" e.g. Texasshire, Floridashire, Louisianashire.
Hollywood will be required occasionally to cast English actors as the good guys. Hollywood will be required to cast English actors to play English characters. British sit-coms such as "Men Behaving Badly" or "Red Dwarf" will not be re-cast and watered down for a wishy-washy American audience who can't cope with the humour of occasional political incorrectness.
You should relearn your original national anthem, "God Save The Queen", But only after fully carrying out task 1. We would not want you to get confused and give up half way through.
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Dec 31, 2012
 
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Dogs cats and rats and Birds too GOD I hope they keep it together and don't steal each other's pet food...
Well theer are always treats though ...
So what's easy to tune out? It's new years dare and share...Truth ...
Hey there's a guy in the other thread he swears by truths...
Twiffle plonke
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#69432
Jan 1, 2013
 
nope.... I am still NOT convinced that we came from apes. I don't know how we all came about, but it can't be from apes.
They cannot be my ancestors,NO WAY !!!!!!!
My heart and mind is my scientific evidence on this subject,until I see real proof in the future.

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We don't know how close to our own hard-wiring is to media-friendly know-it-alls to begin with. We don't know if they've experienced the same fears or were rewarded for their efforts in any way close to we were in our own efforts. For our own sakes, it's largely healthy to maintain a self-help point of view but we like to use someone else's feedback to assure ourselves that we aren't off course.
Cropped for space. Interesting perspective. Your fear of exclusion point is one that I usually remember to include as well, I just don't like to span post so I was attempting to keep it short, but yes, that is one of the aspects to the over/under sexuality through forced adherence that I have also observed.

Media is a monster, I can almost state that literally, it has a way of defining the culture now when it is suppose to be defined by the culture, like other art forms. It would probably shock some people, doubt you will be surprised, to know that media actually markets from tat perspective. They choose what they want to make "in" or "out" based entirely on some strange game of chess played for money and notoriety, I often wish there was some conspiracy at play where they were all being controlled by one single entity, it's more sane than what's really going on sometimes.

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Jan 1, 2013
 
Time and Space wrote:
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That kind of reasoning is like waiting for a hurricane or tornado or tidal wave to hit...ignoreing all signs that say one might be approaching...
I'd rather be safe and evacuate...than to stand there on the beach front, and get washed away, or sucked up into the sky by a typoon...
Better to evacuate, take action, and there not be a storm, than to stand there waiting for evidence to hit you in the face...cause then when you are aware...it's to late...whooosh...now what?
What "signs," you fail to see, there are no "signs" of any deity, there are just assertions lacking evidence. You'd wager a bet of your entire existence on a one in a million odds? Atheists choose red, you religious folks are choosing one number ... our of millions. We have 50-50 odds, you are reducing your odds to 1 in a million, all based on a "hunch." Hunches are what make gamblers broke, and cops dead.

Even all that aside, if you're wrong, you waste your life while the atheist leaves a mark. That mark is the only true immortality that we know of, end of story.

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