Evolution vs. Creation

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“I Am No One Else”

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Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#69166 Dec 31, 2012
greymouser wrote:
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Your post there:
"1. Does it cause human suffering.
2. It does cause human suffering.
3. We don't want human suffering therefore it is unethical.
There, scientific enough for you?"
By your own post, you refer to ethics with your point number 3.
Yes, it's presenting a reason why something is unethical, still failing to see your point.

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#69167 Dec 31, 2012
KittenKoder wrote:
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I fail to see your point.
That's not surprising. If you were a woman you would understand the sensuality involved in creating art of any kind. It's not all that different than creating a child or an orgasm. The inspiration strikes and must be acted upon while the muse still possesses you, otherwise nothing comes to fruition, IOWs, frustration instead of satisfaction.
Dozerman

Peytona, WV

#69168 Dec 31, 2012
Question: evolution started somewhere who or what put that item there to start evolution?

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Nehwon

#69169 Dec 31, 2012
KittenKoder wrote:
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Yes, it's presenting a reason why something is unethical, still failing to see your point.
By presenting a reason why something is unethical, does that imply you are invoking some sort of ethics?

What is your boundary for ethical or unethical testing (Step 4 of the scientific method)?

“I Am No One Else”

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Seattle

#69170 Dec 31, 2012
nanoanomaly wrote:
<quoted text>That's not surprising. If you were a woman you would understand the sensuality involved in creating art of any kind. It's not all that different than creating a child or an orgasm. The inspiration strikes and must be acted upon while the muse still possesses you, otherwise nothing comes to fruition, IOWs, frustration instead of satisfaction.
So .. you don't think there are female asexuals? Interesting:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asexuality
serendip.brynmawr.edu/exchange/node/1870
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/9651265/The-...
http://www.asexualawarenessweek.com/whatis.ht...
http://www.asexualexplorations.net/home/extan...

Interesting indeed. You are asserting that all these people are not real.

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Nehwon

#69171 Dec 31, 2012
nanoanomaly wrote:
<quoted text>That's not surprising. If you were a woman you would understand the sensuality involved in creating art of any kind. It's not all that different than creating a child or an orgasm. The inspiration strikes and must be acted upon while the muse still possesses you, otherwise nothing comes to fruition, IOWs, frustration instead of satisfaction.
From what I've seen on the internet, ad hominem attacks are declared when someone calls you an insulting name.

But that's just being a jerk.

However, you have put forth a legitimate ad hom attack. Umm, congrats?

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#69172 Dec 31, 2012
KittenKoder wrote:
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So .. you don't think there are female asexuals? Interesting:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =6AhkihhJGb4XX
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asexuality
serendip.brynmawr.edu/exchange/node/1870
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/9651265/The-...
http://www.asexualawarenessweek.com/whatis.ht...
http://www.asexualexplorations.net/home/extan...
Interesting indeed. You are asserting that all these people are not real.
I never said that I don't believe that there are women who are not interested in having sex.

Female sexuality has nothing to do with you.

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Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#69173 Dec 31, 2012
Dozerman wrote:
Question: evolution started somewhere who or what put that item there to start evolution?
Natural processes, of course.

No need at all for magic ones.

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#69174 Dec 31, 2012
KittenKoder wrote:
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Define "like" in this context.
Jesus existed. You are just wasting your time trying to deny the impossible.
FREE SERVANT

Bellevue, WA

#69175 Dec 31, 2012
Thomas Robertson wrote:
Yes, Free Servant, we've already heard that other cultures have a Flood legend.
If you're going to use that premise to argue that there really was a Flood, that will be nothing new.
We've already heard that many cultures believed in dragons.
If you're going to use that premise to argue that dinosaurs and humans lived at the same time, that will be nothing new.
No! I wasn't arguing any such thing. I was just making a point about the ancient symbol that Nimrod/Marduk took and it was the dragon emblem and it has been seen all over the world. No I don't believe there was any literal real dragon involved in that history.

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#69176 Dec 31, 2012
Tinka wrote:
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LOL Is that a cuss word like bloddy and feck?
Go on NOW go piss off alright...
Bloody piss feck hare...
Not really a curse but like saying, " go on lying ".
FREE SERVANT

Bellevue, WA

#69177 Dec 31, 2012
BraveCon wrote:
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Jesus is the Greek name for Christ, His real name/his Jewish name was Joshua. You may want to search the Old Testament for 'Joshua' and 'Messiah'.
We know that Greek was written in the area where Jesus was crucified LUKE 23:38 and they the Greeks must have had some role in the event.

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Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#69178 Dec 31, 2012
nanoanomaly wrote:
<quoted text> I never said that I don't believe that there are women who are not interested in having sex.
Female sexuality has nothing to do with you.
Do you deny that female asexuals exist? Asexuality is simply having no desires for sexual activity, no sexual attractions, and no pleasure from sexual activity, it has nothing to do with male or female by definition. So if you classify female and male asexuals differently then it proves you are being dishonest, it also demonstrates you know nothing about sexuality as a whole.

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Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#69179 Dec 31, 2012
greymouser wrote:
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By presenting a reason why something is unethical, does that imply you are invoking some sort of ethics?
What is your boundary for ethical or unethical testing (Step 4 of the scientific method)?
Everyone has a set of ethics. Ethics are subjective, based on social pressures and genetic traits inherited, developed through natural selection. We lump them together and call them ethics.

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Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#69180 Dec 31, 2012
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Jesus existed. You are just wasting your time trying to deny the impossible.
There were lots of people named Jesus, and many still have that name today. So?
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#69181 Dec 31, 2012
BraveCon wrote:
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Drunks and junkies are alive when they have those hallucinations. I think its unfair to compare them to a person who is temporarily dead until they are medically revived via CPR or other methods.
'...why is it that every single religious belief produces vastly different NDEs?'
It might be that God lets souls experience the after-life in a way that won't make them doubt their religion when they re-enter their bodies. For example, if a Muslim dies and experiences a Christian Heaven and then returns to his body, he probably wouldn't want to tell his fellow Muslims that Heaven is a Christian Heaven. If he does, he might be beaten up and/or killed.
Oh, that's handy then innit? But as it happens many NDE's also involve people merely feeling as if they are walking around their own bodies and don't get anywhere near heaven. This alone of course falsifies your claim that all NDE's are about the Christian version of heaven. Unfortunately those out of body experiences also happen to all rely on subjective rather than objective evidence.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#69183 Dec 31, 2012
xxxooxxx wrote:
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From what I understand...I believe the Quantum field might be outside natural laws.
Don't worry, fundies tend to be wrong a lot.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#69184 Dec 31, 2012
Ninthman wrote:
The Large Hadron Collider in Switzerland has put Intelligent Design back into the equation.
The Big Bang theory is still valid but the Higgs Boson Particle actualy existed before the Big Bang and was the spark that sent the Big Bang in a predetermined course, so the science reflects.
It is now possible to see before the Big Bang and determine the existence of other dimensions.
Basically the Higgs Boson was the blue print for everything that was to be from the farthest stars location to your hair color. Yes. It even allowed for evolution as we are now finding out.
So you can look at Creationism creating Evolution. Who the creator is, no-one knows, but we do now know that the Higgs Boson Particle was a tool used to set our little slice of reality into preplanned motion. It's incredible.
Why do you hate kittens?
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#69185 Dec 31, 2012
xxxooxxx wrote:
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Intelligent Design?...no brainer
Ya got that right.

:-p
TheIndependentMa jority

Hazard, KY

#69186 Dec 31, 2012
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Jesus existed. You are just wasting your time trying to deny the impossible.
To the citizens of the United States of America, in the light of your failure to elect a competent President of the USA and thus to govern yourselves, we hereby give notice of the revocation of your independence, effective today. Her Sovereign Majesty Queen Elizabeth II will resume monarchical duties over all states, commonwealths and other territories. Except Utah, which she does not fancy.

Your new prime minister (The Right Honourable Tony Blair, MP, for the 97.85% of you who have until now been unaware that there is a world outside your borders) will appoint a minister for America without the need for further elections. Congress and the Senate will be disbanded. A questionnaire will be circulated next year to determine whether any of you noticed.

To aid in the transition to a British Crown dependency, the following rules are introduced with immediate effect:

You should look up "revocation" in the Oxford English Dictionary. Then look up "aluminium." Check the pronunciation guide
You will be amazed at just how wrongly you have been pronouncing it. The letter U' will be reinstated in words such as 'favour' and 'neighbour', skipping the letter 'U' is nothing more than laziness on your part. Likewise, you will learn to spell 'doughnut' without skipping half the letters. You will end your love affair with the letter 'Z'(pronounced 'zed' not 'zee') and the suffix "ize" will be replaced by the suffix "ise." You will learn that the suffix 'burgh' is pronounced 'burra' e.g. Edinburgh. You are welcome to respell Pittsburgh as 'Pittsberg' if you can't cope with correct pronunciation. Generally, you should raise your vocabulary to acceptable levels. Look up "vocabulary."

Using the same twenty seven words interspersed with filler noises such as "like" and "you know" is an unacceptable and inefficient form of communication. Look up "interspersed." There will be no more 'bleeps' in the Jerry Springer show. If you're not old enough to cope with bad language then you shouldn't have chat shows. When you learn to develop your vocabulary then you won't have to use bad language as often.

There is no such thing as "US English." We will let Microsoft know on your behalf. The Microsoft spell-checker will be adjusted to take account of thereinstated letter 'u' and the elimination of "-ize."

You should learn to distinguish the English and Australian accents. It really isn't that hard. English accents are not limited to cockney, upper-class twit, or Mancunian (Daphne in Frasier). You will also have to learn how to understand regional accents -- Scottish dramas such as "Taggart" will no longer be broadcast with subtitles. While we're talking about regions, you must learn that there is no such place as Devonshire in England. The name of the county is "Devon." If you persist in calling it Devonshire, all American States will become "shires" e.g. Texasshire, Floridashire, Louisianashire.

Hollywood will be required occasionally to cast English actors as the good guys. Hollywood will be required to cast English actors to play English characters. British sit-coms such as "Men Behaving Badly" or "Red Dwarf" will not be re-cast and watered down for a wishy-washy American audience who can't cope with the humour of occasional political incorrectness.

You should relearn your original national anthem, "God Save The Queen", But only after fully carrying out task 1. We would not want you to get confused and give up half way through.

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