Evolution vs. Creation

There are 20 comments on the Jan 6, 2011, Best of New Orleans story titled Evolution vs. Creation. In it, Best of New Orleans reports that:

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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Level 5

Since: Apr 12

Taizhou, China

#68710 Dec 29, 2012
Free Servant, how do you know if an agate crystal looks like Jesus?
Do we have any portraits from Jesus' time to compare it with?

“Never give up”

Level 1

Since: Dec 12

North Olmsted, OH

#68711 Dec 29, 2012
KittenKoder wrote:
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So, what is this "soul" and where is the evidence suggesting it?
When people die, the bond between the soul and the human body is severed. When the soul's connection to the material world is severed, the soul is free to go and dwell in the spiritual realm, which would include places like Heaven. A soul cannot be detected with instruments designed to detect physical properties such as mass and energy so its currently impossible to get the evidence of a soul's existance.

Perhaps one day somebody will design and build an instrument that can detect the properties of spirits.

Level 5

Since: Apr 12

Taizhou, China

#68712 Dec 29, 2012
On a fence in Central America, there was what looked like a picture of Jesus.
Many people took pilgrimages to that fence, and abandoned crutches and wheelchairs accumulated.

But then a workman washed the whitewash off and found that it wasn't Jesus, it was Willy Nelson.

At that point, the crutches and wheelchairs stopped accumulating.

“what we think we become”

Level 5

Since: Aug 11

above and beyond

#68713 Dec 29, 2012
BraveCon wrote:
I believe that since humans are the only animals with a soul, it is the soul that is constantly altering our DNA and making us evolve into a creature that will barely resemble the original human beings that inhabited the Earth when our race first started some 2 million years ago.
Since God is the one who creates souls and bonds them to the animals known as human beings, He is responsible for mankind becoming the most intelligent and evolved beings on Earth.
Look at sharks and crocodiles, they are both hundreds of millions of years old, yet they have changed very little over this time period. Its because they don't have souls.
LMAO. LAME

Level 5

Since: Apr 12

Taizhou, China

#68714 Dec 29, 2012
xxxoxxx, didn't the Israelites go out and mow down Canaanites and Philistines after they received the Ten Commandments?

Since: Jun 12

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#68715 Dec 29, 2012
KittenKoder wrote:
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Yes, that is why opinions and anecdotes are not considered evidence and claims are considered bias by default, until verifiable evidence is offered suggesting it. Verifiable, testable, and reproducible evidences are objective, meaning they will behave the exact same way for one person as they do for another. That is why scientists demand that standard of evidence, and why any thinking and rational person would as well. Until such evidence is presented, any claim can be dismissed as meaningless, or delusion if there is an insistence of the claim's validity in spite of evidence to the contrary being uncovered.
Metaphysics after all, is "beyond" physics...which by its very nature is undefinable.(consider the observer effect)
You assume that everything should fit into the man made concept of science without exception...
Without the metaphysical world nothing would exist...but like I said...these are things that you would not understand by way scientific terms...but just as real as the physical world, if not more so.

“what we think we become”

Level 5

Since: Aug 11

above and beyond

#68716 Dec 29, 2012
xxxooxxx wrote:
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haven't really read them....
there are other holy books other than the bible, which makes everything in the bible half-truths

Since: Jun 12

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#68717 Dec 29, 2012
BraveCon wrote:
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When people die, the bond between the soul and the human body is severed. When the soul's connection to the material world is severed, the soul is free to go and dwell in the spiritual realm, which would include places like Heaven. A soul cannot be detected with instruments designed to detect physical properties such as mass and energy so its currently impossible to get the evidence of a soul's existance.
Perhaps one day somebody will design and build an instrument that can detect the properties of spirits.
Scientist are a funny lot...if they did make an instrument to detect it, they would make up some new name for it like LIFEb727 and claimed that it was a new discovery unheard of until now...lol

“Darwin was right..of course.”

Level 9

Since: Jun 11

Evolution is true.....

#68718 Dec 29, 2012
BraveCon wrote:
I believe that since humans are the only animals with a soul, it is the soul that is constantly altering our DNA and making us evolve into a creature that will barely resemble the original human beings that inhabited the Earth when our race first started some 2 million years ago.
Since God is the one who creates souls and bonds them to the animals known as human beings, He is responsible for mankind becoming the most intelligent and evolved beings on Earth.
Look at sharks and crocodiles, they are both hundreds of millions of years old, yet they have changed very little over this time period. Its because they don't have souls.
Wake up dude, there is no such thing as a soul...it's just religious crap.

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#68719 Dec 29, 2012
Cybele wrote:
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there are other holy books other than the bible, which makes everything in the bible half-truths
which do you prefer?

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Level 7

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#68720 Dec 29, 2012
Thomas Robertson wrote:
On a fence in Central America, there was what looked like a picture of Jesus.
Many people took pilgrimages to that fence, and abandoned crutches and wheelchairs accumulated.
But then a workman washed the whitewash off and found that it wasn't Jesus, it was Willy Nelson.
At that point, the crutches and wheelchairs stopped accumulating.
Laffin.

“Darwin was right..of course.”

Level 9

Since: Jun 11

Evolution is true.....

#68721 Dec 29, 2012
xxxooxxx wrote:
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Sacrifices is truly an idea that evades me.
Really?? God seemed to need a human sacrifice to make us 'right' with Him. And in the early days he wanted goats and sheep.

This really leads me to think the whole shebang is made up crap.

“what we think we become”

Level 5

Since: Aug 11

above and beyond

#68722 Dec 29, 2012
xxxooxxx wrote:
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which do you prefer?
sci-fi

Since: Feb 08

Tampa, FL

#68723 Dec 29, 2012
BraveCon wrote:
I believe that since humans are the only animals with a soul...
What is the evidence for the existence of a "soul"?

Since: Feb 08

Tampa, FL

#68724 Dec 29, 2012
BraveCon wrote:
A soul cannot be detected with instruments designed to detect physical properties such as mass and energy so its currently impossible to get the evidence of a soul's existance.
So how do you know that souls exist?

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#68725 Dec 29, 2012
Cybele wrote:
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sci-fi
sci-fi?... that's not no holy book...lol

actually a sci-fi fan myself.

rewatched Avatar the other day... love the special effects.

Level 5

Since: Apr 12

Taizhou, China

#68726 Dec 29, 2012
thewordofme wrote:
Christianity has killed millions...science has killed how many???
I started to say "350,000," since that is the estimate of the number killed in Hiroshima.
But what did President Truman say afterward? He said, "We may be grateful to Providence."

Level 5

Since: Apr 12

Taizhou, China

#68727 Dec 29, 2012
BraveCon wrote:
... humans are the only animals with a soul ...
Where does the Bible say that other animals don't have souls?
The originator of this folk song didn't seem to think so:

Well I had an old dog and his name was Blue
I bet you five dollars he's a good dog too
Old Blue chased a possum up a holler limb
The possum growled, Blue whined at him
Bye Bye Blue, you good dog you

When old Blue died he died so hard
He shook the ground in my back yard
We lowered him down with a golden chain
and every link we called his name

My old Blue was a good old hound
You'd hear him holler miles around
When I get to heaven first thing I'll do
is grab my horn and call for Blue

Level 5

Since: Apr 12

Taizhou, China

#68728 Dec 29, 2012
BraveCon wrote:
Look at sharks and crocodiles, they are both hundreds of millions of years old, yet they have changed very little over this time period. Its because they don't have souls.
The species which evolve the most are the ones which undergo the most stress which they could overcome.
If what you say about sharks and crocodiles is true, then sharks and crocodiles have not undergone much stress which made evolution necessary for survival.
On the other hand, if a population undergoes stress which it CANNOT overcome, that population goes extinct.
Apparently, that is what happened to the trilobites.

Polar bears are descended from dark-colored bears which happened to get caught on the wrong side of the glacier.
At first, they were readily visible by their prey. So the darker colored bears died of starvation, leaving the gene pool open for the lighter colored members.

“what we think we become”

Level 5

Since: Aug 11

above and beyond

#68729 Dec 29, 2012
xxxooxxx wrote:
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sci-fi?... that's not no holy book...lol
actually a sci-fi fan myself.
rewatched Avatar the other day... love the special effects.
;-)

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