Evolution vs. Creation

Evolution vs. Creation

There are 221490 comments on the Best of New Orleans story from Jan 6, 2011, titled Evolution vs. Creation. In it, Best of New Orleans reports that:

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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#68522 Dec 29, 2012
anonymous wrote:
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This goes back to basic evolution. Accept it or don't. Human bipedalism began in the days of ardipithicus, and refined itself through the last 4 million years.
I only suggest the animal reference because I think that animal algorithms do exist as overlays to a core human psyche. I've already posted on the subject. I don't think you'll find such things among the traditional Caucasian populations because they are psychological extroverts who aren't very stable when contending with mixed feelings. It would take some time to explain.
I simply don't consider "spirits" to exist, and the psyche just is not separate from anatomy. People don't like things to be reduced to algorithms and a set of experiences, but that is the nature of things anyway.
Scientists have hypothesized about bipedalism in apes but have not really studied the evolution of kangaroos who can walk/hop upright.

Intelligence, personalities, and disorders can be affected by biological, psychological and environmental factors. For example, Bipolar Disorders are more prevalent among Caucasians than other races such as Asians who are more reserved. But anyone can be both extrovert and introvert depending on the situation. It's just that our cultures dictate what is supposed to be the norm and what is deviant. In most parts of Asia, people don't separate kids with learning disabilities from the normal ones like how Americans put them in special ed class. I am not sure if that's a good thing or not.



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#68523 Dec 29, 2012
KittenKoder wrote:
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If your god told you to, would you kill?
If science told you to kill for science...would you?...many have and many do.

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#68524 Dec 29, 2012
xxxooxxx wrote:
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Your understanding of God leaves much to be desired....but if you wish an answer on a layman level...
"Thou shall not kill"...was God's commandment...God has already answered your question before you asked.
If your god told you to kill, which "command" would you disobey?

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#68525 Dec 29, 2012
Cybele wrote:
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Scientists have hypothesized about bipedalism in apes but have not really studied the evolution of kangaroos who can walk/hop upright.
Intelligence, personalities, and disorders can be affected by biological, psychological and environmental factors. For example, Bipolar Disorders are more prevalent among Caucasians than other races such as Asians who are more reserved. But anyone can be both extrovert and introvert depending on the situation. It's just that our cultures dictate what is supposed to be the norm and what is deviant. In most parts of Asia, people don't separate kids with learning disabilities from the normal ones like how Americans put them in special ed class. I am not sure if that's a good thing or not.
Your use of the word "normal" to describe a living organism betrays your lack of understand that life itself is.

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#68526 Dec 29, 2012
Subduction Zone wrote:
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Yes, and the pictures that I linked earlier looked just like Jesus in a couple of dog's butts. People are evolved to look for patterns. Sometimes the pattern isn't really there.
Or do you believe that your Savior manifests himself in a dog's ass?
Patterns are everywhere! What are you talking about? or are you just rocking the boat? um, you might want to avoid the flood that will sweep your ass.

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#68527 Dec 29, 2012
Cybele wrote:
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So you don't agree that we are all animals? Where did conscience come from? It's the reason why we study ethics. Are you a bible literalist? Is that why you take every thing people say here literally? Can you tell if people are kidding? Do you know what sacrcasm is?

READ BETWEEN THE LINES! Did it go over your head? I meant that figuratively speaking.
I disagree. We are not all animals. From what I have read on topix many of the posters have the IQ of a beet.

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#68528 Dec 29, 2012
KittenKoder wrote:
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If your god told you to kill, which "command" would you disobey?
Define god. Does it mean a life form so far more advanced than you are that it seems to be...?

Besides thou shalt not kill was never meant to be taken literally. The punishment for violating most of the laws back then was to be stoned to death by a mob.

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#68530 Dec 29, 2012
KittenKoder wrote:
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Your use of the word "normal" to describe a living organism betrays your lack of understand that life itself is.
Ah so you're putting words in my mouth or you're truly ignorant?

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#68531 Dec 29, 2012
xxxooxxx wrote:
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If science told you to kill for science...would you?...many have and many do.
Well, since science doesn't actually "do" anything, I will never be faced with that, but if it did, no, I would not. Why won't you answer the same question about your god? Are you scared that you might "anger" it by answering wrong? Or are you hiding the fact that you would kill for a hallucination?

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#68532 Dec 29, 2012
Cybele wrote:
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Patterns are everywhere! What are you talking about? or are you just rocking the boat? um, you might want to avoid the flood that will sweep your ass.
Of course patterns are everywhere. If there was one creator he would naturally use a similar pattern for all his works. If evolution is totally random we are all products of the same evolutionary process.

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#68533 Dec 29, 2012
Cybele wrote:
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Patterns are everywhere! What are you talking about? or are you just rocking the boat? um, you might want to avoid the flood that will sweep your ass.
Yes, patterns are everywhere ... because our minds will seek them out and discard anything that does not have a pattern. So we see patterns more than not patterns, even when there are no patterns. That is what anthropomorphizing is, it's altering your perception of reality so you can cope with it more by giving it false patterns which closely resemble what you know or have imagined. The best description of why is for compression.

This is pretty basic neuroscience.

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#68534 Dec 29, 2012
uther pendragon wrote:
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Define god. Does it mean a life form so far more advanced than you are that it seems to be...?
Besides thou shalt not kill was never meant to be taken literally. The punishment for violating most of the laws back then was to be stoned to death by a mob.
Whichever your god is, or how you describe it. If your god commanded you to kill, would you? It's a simple question, nothing hidden, only a dishonest liar would evade it.

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#68535 Dec 29, 2012
KittenKoder wrote:
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If your god told you to kill, which "command" would you disobey?
God would never tell one to kill...It's something all "true" Christians KNOW.

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#68536 Dec 29, 2012
KittenKoder wrote:
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Your use of the word "normal" to describe a living organism betrays your lack of understand that life itself is.
If you assume that given the right set of circumstances and a lot of time something will crawl out of the primordial ooze then microbial life is normal. Such life is probably quite common around the universe.

Whether it ever evolves to the point of consciousness is...?

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#68537 Dec 29, 2012
Cybele wrote:
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Ah so you're putting words in my mouth or you're truly ignorant?
... and now you are flat out lying, your post stated "people don't separate kids with learning disabilities from the normal ones," therefore my post was not "putting words into your mouth," it was pointing out a flaw in your thinking and logic.

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#68538 Dec 29, 2012
KittenKoder wrote:
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Yes, patterns are everywhere ... because our minds will seek them out and discard anything that does not have a pattern. So we see patterns more than not patterns, even when there are no patterns. That is what anthropomorphizing is, it's altering your perception of reality so you can cope with it more by giving it false patterns which closely resemble what you know or have imagined. The best description of why is for compression.
This is pretty basic neuroscience.
No you don't know everything. We are everything!

Learn basic neuroscience, word associations are good for the memory. Now can you spell "cataholic" that which you are?

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#68539 Dec 29, 2012
xxxooxxx wrote:
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God would never tell one to kill...It's something all "true" Christians KNOW.
That was not the question, and doesn't your god get pretty angry when you assume to "know" it's will? I will repeat the question:

If your god commanded you to kill, would you kill?

Only a dishonest person would refuse to answer, only an atheist would be unable to answer.

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#68540 Dec 29, 2012
KittenKoder wrote:
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... and now you are flat out lying, your post stated "people don't separate kids with learning disabilities from the normal ones," therefore my post was not "putting words into your mouth," it was pointing out a flaw in your thinking and logic.
Well define NORMAL.

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#68541 Dec 29, 2012
uther pendragon wrote:
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If you assume that given the right set of circumstances and a lot of time something will crawl out of the primordial ooze then microbial life is normal. Such life is probably quite common around the universe.
Whether it ever evolves to the point of consciousness is...?
No, due to the fact that things evolve, there can not be a "normal" to living organisms at all. There can be "typical" or "common" but not "normal." All life varies, that's it's strength, and it's why you don't look exactly like your parents, or their parents, or their parents. That was my point. ;)

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#68542 Dec 29, 2012
Cybele wrote:
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No you don't know everything. We are everything!
Learn basic neuroscience, word associations are good for the memory. Now can you spell "cataholic" that which you are?
Where did I ever claim to "know everything?" Also, what is your point? I fail to see any valid points made by you, so far you have posted nothing but existential assertions based on nothing but fantasy and dreams. Then you change the subject almost every post. So what is your point? Or are you just being a troll?

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