Evolution vs. Creation

Evolution vs. Creation

There are 173909 comments on the Best of New Orleans story from Jan 6, 2011, titled Evolution vs. Creation. In it, Best of New Orleans reports that:

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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#64740 Dec 11, 2012
thewordofme wrote:
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Oh really, you have been hearing the same old garbage for years. I just heard about two years ago about the birth rate among Muslims being around twice the rate of Christians and it was two years ago that the Muslims surpassed Catholics in numbers. Many people who follow these things are predicting the Muslimization of Europe in around 20-30 years.
I, of course, understand that Christianity is still on the top, but it may soon loose top billing if currant trends continue.
Again Charles I have not lied to you at all in my posts to you...ever. And you will never prove that God exists. You do not know enough, and you don't seem to research enough. Not trying to dis-respect you, but you need to learn more.
Again, my good friend and pal, no matter our different beliefs and standings, if this world is dominated by Islam, do you think people like you will live freely and independently the way you are, in the Christian dominated world?
Russell

Adelaide, Australia

#64741 Dec 11, 2012
Kong_ wrote:
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We've already been over that, Russ. Do try to catch up.
Yes. NASA and the US Air Force (among others) do contribute to SETI. Apparently they see potential benefit for their donations. So, yes INDIRECTLY, SETI is receiving some taxpayer benefit -- but it's a stretch to say they are taxpayer funded.
Furthermore, if you feel 'astrobiology' is such a sweet job, I suggest you apply. That loud roar you will hear thereafter will be the combined laughter from the various agencies you applied for, once they peruse your application for employment.
You wouldn't make a good janitor at their facilities.
No need
I already have a sweet chill job

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#64742 Dec 11, 2012
thewordofme wrote:
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Charles, I see very clearly, and I do know that there are scientists who believe in a God. I also do know that the majority do not. This makes no difference in this discussion. I'm saying that you will never be able to prove God.
We have the real material evidence evidence and you have nothing but a feeling...faith. There is nothing but a 1700 year old book to back you up and that book IS being proven wrong day by day.
If there really was a God...you would be able to prove Him/Her/It. God is unprovable because it doesn't exist. And science is slowly proving this.
On the bright side, I wish you and any family you have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, my friend. I hope you prosper in your life.
I wish you and any family you have merry christmas and new year in advance.
Those scientist that believe in the existence of God, are not really in the minority as you claimed.

“Darwin was right..of course.”

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Since: Jun 11

Evolution is true.....

#64743 Dec 11, 2012
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Again, my good friend and pal, no matter our different beliefs and standings, if this world is dominated by Islam, do you think people like you will live freely and independently the way you are, in the Christian dominated world?
Of course not...I believe that Islam is a blight on humanity, and I'm afraid that sooner or later we will be at war with them.

Once again religion will screw over the world.

“Darwin was right..of course.”

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Since: Jun 11

Evolution is true.....

#64744 Dec 11, 2012
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> I wish you and any family you have merry christmas and new year in advance.
Those scientist that believe in the existence of God, are not really in the minority as you claimed.
Well I haven't checked up on the numbers recently, so I'll have to do that tomorrow...it's pretty late here so I'll sign off for tonite.

Be safe.

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#64745 Dec 11, 2012
thewordofme wrote:
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Of course not...I believe that Islam is a blight on humanity, and I'm afraid that sooner or later we will be at war with them.
Once again religion will screw over the world.
So, i really think you see the enemy of all. Christianity the dominant religion tolerates every other faiths or beliefs unlike Islam.

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#64746 Dec 11, 2012
thewordofme wrote:
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Well I haven't checked up on the numbers recently, so I'll have to do that tomorrow...it's pretty late here so I'll sign off for tonite.
Be safe.
Expecting your feed back.
Good night and sleep well.

“I started out with nothing”

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Since: Nov 10

and still got most of it left

#64747 Dec 12, 2012
Cybele wrote:
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LOL! You do know there are myriads of mountains everywhere right? BTW, they built that Great Wall of China. LMAO!
Keep guessing though.
Hey, just offering you some geography, if you want to ignore it thatís your problem. There is a considerable difference between the hills near you and the Himalayas.

The great wall of China was built about 2200 years ago, The skeletal remains of Chinese from thousands of years before that were identifiably oriental. You donít really have a handle on the time aspect of human evolution do you?

You asked a pertinent question and I gave you a valid and accurate answer, donít give me BS about the great wall. Consider the gateways built into it, traders and farmers passed through the great wall continuously. Next youíll be saying that people in western California are evolving differently from those in eastern California because of the I5

By the way, food has an effect as does environment

“I started out with nothing”

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#64748 Dec 12, 2012
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> God is God. You can not change that with your polluted statement.
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Exodus 20 vs 1 to 18, for more.
Not very good at interpreting are you, what is so hard to comprehend about the words

Exodus 20:3-5
King James Version (KJV)
3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.
5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

as in the section you referenced
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Not even Genesis but Exodus 200 vs 1 to 3 or take it further to verse 18.
Why not Genesis? Are you ignoring that bit because it does not agree with you?

OK Exodus 20:18 (KJV)- And all the people saw the thunderings, and the lightnings, and the noise of the trumpet, and the mountain smoking: and when the people saw it, they removed, and stood afar off.

What has this to do with identifying one of several gods? Hell no, itís do as your jealous, misanthropic, megalomaniac god tells you or face his wrath, are you scared?
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> God is God. You can not change that with your polluted statement.
Proof please Ė thatís all I ask, if you canít offer proof for what you believe it then butt out because you opinion is not worth squat

“I started out with nothing”

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#64749 Dec 12, 2012
AustinHook wrote:
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But virtually all this space debris is left over from the creation of our solar system. And it seems to me that while life could have arisen and survived from the early disc around our sun that became the planets, it's less likely than it having arisen in the conditions that so well support all the life we have on our planet now.
It is extremely unlikely that life (if it did arise) in the solar disk survived due to the harsh/extreme conditions. It is the conditions that exist (and existed) on earth that have allowed life to arise and flourish from organic materials. Liquid water, temperature range and atmosphere to divert the harmful radiation emitted from the sun all played a part.

What is in question is where that organic material came from, solar debris is a source (and still is).

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#64750 Dec 12, 2012
Charles Idemi wrote:
Assertions using the name of science can not disprove the existence of God.
Every one are subjected to their opinions whether true or false.
But no one in the history of mankind and the universe are able to disprove the existence of God.
None.
Wrong Ė Einstein inadvertently disproved the god of Revelation 19:6 (KJV) with his mass-energy equivalence equation.

Itís easy, if you exist then an omnipotent god cannot exist in this universe Ė E=MC^2

“There is no such thing”

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Since: May 08

as a reasonable person

#64751 Dec 12, 2012
ChristineM wrote:
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It is extremely unlikely that life (if it did arise) in the solar disk survived due to the harsh/extreme conditions. It is the conditions that exist (and existed) on earth that have allowed life to arise and flourish from organic materials. Liquid water, temperature range and atmosphere to divert the harmful radiation emitted from the sun all played a part.
What is in question is where that organic material came from, solar debris is a source (and still is).
http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/science/2012/...
anonymous

Franklin, PA

#64752 Dec 12, 2012
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> On the contrary, God is not human, but God.
God can use any one or any thing. The problem with some humans are nothing but unbelief.
In 90's if you remember, some Russian scientist discovered a scaly talking fish baby, what about that?
So anything irrational not only can exist, it MUST exist as proof of god? The proof is a talking fish that I've never heard of?

You realize that you have no business even trying to prove god's existence with pure irrationality. You're preaching total nonsense.

Nobody is here to have someone provide them a totally irrational role model. If they wanted to embrace irrationality, they certainly don't need your example. Do you expect someone to strap an irrationality bomb to their chest and come running into the middle of the debate to explode it, all to provide thunder for your proof?

You must lead a very impotent life. It's not going to get any better, the way you're living it. Your Christian minions? They decided to stay at home and make babies and keep their mouths shut as they ride the gravy train, or the slop trough as the case may be.

Any way you look at it, no miracles, no freedoms, no good life for anyone. There's just a minor trade-off on things when you choose to be livestock for Farmer Benedict. We're just a small step away from the Church's final approved solution, killing Islam, Communism and adapting Soilent Green.
TheIndependentMa jority

Somerset, KY

#64753 Dec 12, 2012
Kong_ wrote:
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I know that.
Perhaps YOU know that.
But I doubt Chucky knows that.
Ever visited or viewed the Mickey and Minnie Mouse display in Dinseyuhland?

Gawdy enough to make anyones eyeballs pop out their sockets.

Talk about UNreal......

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

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The Borderland of Sol

#64754 Dec 12, 2012
anonymous wrote:
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I didn't know that Gaelic was a primary language ANYwhere anymore.
Me, I just have a mother who's Newfoundland Irish. They speak with a blended Irish/English accent (at least to us Americans)along with some of that Maritime slang.
Heck, even I have difficulty understanding Newfies...
TheIndependentMa jority

Somerset, KY

#64755 Dec 12, 2012
thewordofme wrote:
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Then why the fcuk are you on this forum bud.
I wasn't asking YOU to disprove anything. I was going to show you proof that your Bible is WRONG
Don't like to hear truths that contradict your 'faith' then don't use this forum or interact with atheists on here.
It's a FREE Speech WORLD, here in Americ- dud(e)

You could "show" your spew until eternity-gues what-it doesn't matter one IOTA to me. What part of "I have my OWN beliefs" (as well as other My OWN type of interactions etc) do you NOT comprehend?

YOU don't like THAT--TOO BAD. DON'T post anyting directly to me.

And I will post to whom ever I WANT to...because I!! DO NOT have a problem w/RATIONAL, SANE, decent, MORALLY Ethical atheists--UNLIKE YOU-who seems to have a problem with anyone that disclaims athiesm!!

GET OVER IT ALREADY-it's NOT going to change-the world is NOT made for or to suit just YOUR agenda OR beliefs--and THAT is REALITY.

Now YOU can DEAL with THAT.
TheIndependentMa jority

Somerset, KY

#64756 Dec 12, 2012
thewordofme wrote:
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You say:
"You DID state that the ENTIRE old testament is myth and allegory"
Then I apologize for 'misspeaking' and I did clarify what I was saying.
I don't feel the least bit 'frightened' when you say it is the 'word of God' because I know it's not. It just bronze age crap that was written by Jewish men with good motives and it got out of control.
Of course I don't believe, and I don't care if you do.
This IS a place to debate and interact with people who believe many
divergent things.
Do you want to continue on?
And you are also WRONG about a lot of what is written in the Bible--because parts of it ARE in FACT, glimpses of things that DID happen-like it or NOT.
TheIndependentMa jority

Somerset, KY

#64757 Dec 12, 2012
I fish wrote:
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Fascinating statement. I was of the persuasion that due to the present society circumstances many christians wish to pray for God's kingdom to come and His will to be accomplished on the earth in the same way that it is accomplished in heaven.
People wonder why we have so much violence now a days.

Another interesting idea that might yield surprising results--the INCREASE in it, since the REMOVAL of the clearly defined RIGHT vs WRONG ideals, from the public sector squares!!!

(A nobrainer "duhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh " again!)
TheIndependentMa jority

Somerset, KY

#64758 Dec 12, 2012
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> We have been hearing that same old garbage about Islam for long, but to no avail. The same with Budhism.
Christianity to date are still topping the chart, globally.
I am not here to criticise any religion, but to prove to liars that God exist.
More ?
Whose practice pre-scripted auto-coded send emails you reading?

Can we see them too please?

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#64759 Dec 12, 2012
ChristineM wrote:
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<quoted text>
Not very good at interpreting are you, what is so hard to comprehend about the words
Exodus 20:3-5
King James Version (KJV)
3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.
5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;
as in the section you referenced
<quoted text>
Why not Genesis? Are you ignoring that bit because it does not agree with you?
OK Exodus 20:18 (KJV)- And all the people saw the thunderings, and the lightnings, and the noise of the trumpet, and the mountain smoking: and when the people saw it, they removed, and stood afar off.
What has this to do with identifying one of several gods? Hell no, itís do as your jealous, misanthropic, megalomaniac god tells you or face his wrath, are you scared?
<quoted text>
Proof please Ė thatís all I ask, if you canít offer proof for what you believe it then butt out because you opinion is not worth squat
Can spirits, dreams, prophecies, and generally human behaviour be measured in a laboratory?
If yes God does not exist but if no, he exist.
God is beyond science. He is a spirit( immortal).

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