Evolution vs. Creation

Evolution vs. Creation

There are 173444 comments on the Best of New Orleans story from Jan 6, 2011, titled Evolution vs. Creation. In it, Best of New Orleans reports that:

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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#64720 Dec 11, 2012
thewordofme wrote:
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That, of course, would not be a myth/allegory, but Moses, Adam and Eve, Exodus, Noah's flood,Tower of Babel, Joshua's conquests and other stories found there....are.
All of the 10 commandments are covered by the Golden rule that almost every culture on earth formulated at some time in their far past. We know that the Pentateuch (in which we find the 10 commandments) was not written by Moses and was put to papyrus around 600-400 BC by at least 3 different people. The Chinese philosopher Confucius wrote his 'Golden Rule around 500 BC.
See, the thing is that the founding myths of the Christian religion are being shown to be false and nothing more then allegorical. We can prove an unbroken line of humanity from at least 200,000 years ago.
All these years we have been told the Bible is the divinely inspired work of God, and all truth. it is not...it is the work of men, inventing a religion, just as was done thousands of years ago by the Greeks and Romans and other brain challenged people of the times.
There is no truth in what you proselytize about...religion is bullsh!t of the highest order, and you cannot prove otherwise.
Not a word that I have said is intended to proslytize.

You DID state that the ENTIRE old testament is myth and allegory.

Why do you feel so threatened when I say it is the word of God?

I just pointed out a flaw in your original statement.

Believe or don't, I don't care.

“what we think we become”

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#64721 Dec 11, 2012
The Dude wrote:
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Yeah, cuz that could never be a factor could it?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2010/jul/02...
Another creation "science" discovery... oh, wait...
And that is evidence for the theory of evolution? I can say that about Michael Jordan's athleticism.

In reference to the EPAS gene in your article:

Mutations in this gene are associated with erythrocytosis familial type 4,[4] pulmonary hypertension and chronic mountain sickness.[6] There is also evidence that certain variants of this gene provide protection for people living at high altitude. EPAS 1 is useful in high altitudes as a short term adaptive response. However, EPAS 1 can also cause excessive production of red blood cells leading to chronic mountain sickness that can lead to death and inhibited reproductive abilities. Some mutations that increase its expression are associated with increased hypertension and stroke at low altitude, with symptoms similar to mountain sickness. People permanently living at high altitudes might experience selection of EPAS 1 to reduce the fitness consequences of excessive red blood cell production.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EPAS1

These people can probably move mountains too. LOL.

“Darwin was right..of course.”

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Evolution is true.....

#64722 Dec 11, 2012
TheIndependentMajority wrote:
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I don't feel the need to "DISprove" anything.
I believe in peoples rights to believe and worship however they wish-so long they are RATIONAL, do NOT hurt anyone else, AND they accept PERSONAL responsibility for their OWN actions (as in NOT BLAMING others UNjustly)--like SANE ADULTS!!!
It's a CONSTIUTIONAL thing...you know..what this nation is founded upon?!
So, YOU can STUFF YOUR own warped "ramifications" where the sun doesnt shine-becauseI don't NEED your beliefs (or the LACK of them) because I have my OWN.
Then why the fcuk are you on this forum bud.

I wasn't asking YOU to disprove anything. I was going to show you proof that your Bible is WRONG

Don't like to hear truths that contradict your 'faith' then don't use this forum or interact with atheists on here.

“Darwin was right..of course.”

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Evolution is true.....

#64723 Dec 11, 2012
superwilly wrote:
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Not a word that I have said is intended to proslytize.
You DID state that the ENTIRE old testament is myth and allegory.
Why do you feel so threatened when I say it is the word of God?
I just pointed out a flaw in your original statement.
Believe or don't, I don't care.
You say:
"You DID state that the ENTIRE old testament is myth and allegory"

Then I apologize for 'misspeaking' and I did clarify what I was saying.

I don't feel the least bit 'frightened' when you say it is the 'word of God' because I know it's not. It just bronze age crap that was written by Jewish men with good motives and it got out of control.

Of course I don't believe, and I don't care if you do.

This IS a place to debate and interact with people who believe many
divergent things.

Do you want to continue on?

“Eleanor, Where is your heart?!”

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#64724 Dec 11, 2012
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>Huh?
Anyways, absolutely not. If god got "his way," as elucidated in his book, our society would be an absolute shit hole.
Fascinating statement. I was of the persuasion that due to the present society circumstances many christians wish to pray for God's kingdom to come and His will to be accomplished on the earth in the same way that it is accomplished in heaven.

“Darwin was right..of course.”

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Evolution is true.....

#64725 Dec 11, 2012
I fish wrote:
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Fascinating statement. I was of the persuasion that due to the present society circumstances many christians wish to pray for God's kingdom to come and His will to be accomplished on the earth in the same way that it is accomplished in heaven.
We've already had a taste of what the world would be like if religion rules....it was called the Dark Ages, and the place was really a sh!thole.

Religion was worse then dictators rule because the religion thought it was doing 'the right thing.' Many, many innocent people died.

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#64726 Dec 11, 2012
thewordofme wrote:
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Only until we close the gap...which we have been doing for years now.
Don't give yourself any futile hope.
bohart

Newport, TN

#64727 Dec 11, 2012
Origin of life needs a rethink scientists argue...

Duh! ya think!

livescience.com

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#64728 Dec 11, 2012
thewordofme wrote:
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Is Islam a lie? It will soon be the majority religion on earth. More people now practice Islam than practice Catholicism (which used to be the largest denomination).
Is Hinduism a lie? Around a billion people in India and thereabouts practice this religion...has been around longer than Christianity has been around...it is generally regarded as the world's oldest organized religion.
Both of the above are dynamic growing religions who's adherents are just as positive that they serve the ‘True God Of The Universe’™ as you are about yours.
Check the stats on belief in Christianity in the UK. I believe they just did a census about it.
In your hubris you think you know the true answer and you cannot see the biases that Christianity has imbued in you, my friend.
We have been hearing that same old garbage about Islam for long, but to no avail. The same with Budhism.
Christianity to date are still topping the chart, globally.
I am not here to criticise any religion, but to prove to liars that God exist.
More ?

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#64729 Dec 11, 2012
thewordofme wrote:
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We've already had a taste of what the world would be like if religion rules....it was called the Dark Ages, and the place was really a sh!thole.
Religion was worse then dictators rule because the religion thought it was doing 'the right thing.' Many, many innocent people died.
Freakshow, Gods Kingdom will bring perfection into the equation. Religion is a defuncted word, as the way of life is the only way of living. Perfect health, no death or worries of any kind. This is the original purpose of God, it hasn't changed. If you believe the sick religions of today, we would all be damned to death.

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#64730 Dec 11, 2012
TheIndependentMajority wrote:
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I don't feel the need to "DISprove" anything.
I believe in peoples rights to believe and worship however they wish-so long they are RATIONAL, do NOT hurt anyone else, AND they accept PERSONAL responsibility for their OWN actions (as in NOT BLAMING others UNjustly)--like SANE ADULTS!!!
It's a CONSTIUTIONAL thing...you know..what this nation is founded upon?!
So, YOU can STUFF YOUR own warped "ramifications" where the sun doesnt shine-becauseI don't NEED your beliefs (or the LACK of them) because I have my OWN.
Your perceptions are wrong. Religion caused the crusades, inquisitions and world wars. In the American civil war, ww1 and ww2.......religions of the same creed were on both sides. Think twice about your religion, Catholic, Protestant, etc...ETC... fought EACH OTHER in war. Hypocrates. You have no religion of your own........doesn't exsist. You still have traces of these false world religions. You must understand that the true God has an organization on earth, the same as in heaven. He is a God of order, not disorder. Look at the universe.

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#64731 Dec 11, 2012
bohart wrote:
Origin of life needs a rethink scientists argue...
Duh! ya think!
livescience.com
Your link does not go to an article.

Try again.

“Darwin was right..of course.”

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Evolution is true.....

#64732 Dec 11, 2012
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Don't give yourself any futile hope.
It's not a futile hope Charles. Science has been doing it for many years now. Religion has never proven science wrong.

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#64733 Dec 11, 2012
Kong_ wrote:
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It always amazes me when Fundimentalist Christians like Chuckles here implores rational people to 'grow up and stop being naive' when they themselves believe in talking snakes, magic fruit, a non-existant world-wide flood, a man living in the belly of a fish for 3 days, and a whole host of other fairy tales.
Chucky, if you have faith in God, that's great. But if I were you, I would take some of your own advice regarding 'growing up, and stop being naive'.
On the contrary, God is not human, but God.
God can use any one or any thing. The problem with some humans are nothing but unbelief.
In 90's if you remember, some Russian scientist discovered a scaly talking fish baby, what about that?

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#64734 Dec 11, 2012
thewordofme wrote:
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It's not a futile hope Charles. Science has been doing it for many years now. Religion has never proven science wrong.
Freakshow......there are no links between apes, monkeys and intelligent humans. The fossil record is empty. There is no evidence for biological change in brain size or structure since Homo sapiens appeared in the fossil record. The search for the proverbial missing link allows for speculation and myth to flourish..........and that it does.

“Darwin was right..of course.”

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Evolution is true.....

#64735 Dec 11, 2012
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> We have been hearing that same old garbage about Islam for long, but to no avail. The same with Budhism.
Christianity to date are still topping the chart, globally.
I am not here to criticise any religion, but to prove to liars that God exist.
More ?
Oh really, you have been hearing the same old garbage for years. I just heard about two years ago about the birth rate among Muslims being around twice the rate of Christians and it was two years ago that the Muslims surpassed Catholics in numbers. Many people who follow these things are predicting the Muslimization of Europe in around 20-30 years.

I, of course, understand that Christianity is still on the top, but it may soon loose top billing if currant trends continue.

Again Charles I have not lied to you at all in my posts to you...ever. And you will never prove that God exists. You do not know enough, and you don't seem to research enough. Not trying to dis-respect you, but you need to learn more.

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#64736 Dec 11, 2012
thewordofme wrote:
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It's not a futile hope Charles. Science has been doing it for many years now. Religion has never proven science wrong.
Lets get this clear. We have successful scientist that sees the bible as a book of truth about God.
I think this is not the issue of science but the issue of faith.

“Darwin was right..of course.”

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Evolution is true.....

#64737 Dec 11, 2012
Makesure100 wrote:
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Freakshow......there are no links between apes, monkeys and intelligent humans. The fossil record is empty. There is no evidence for biological change in brain size or structure since Homo sapiens appeared in the fossil record. The search for the proverbial missing link allows for speculation and myth to flourish..........and that it does.
Have I called you names in the past?

There is no hunt for the 'missing link' anymore. The link has been made and we are most assuredly related to great apes. The fossil record is rich in proofs and of course DNA has recently backed up what archaeologists and paleoantropologists have been saying for decades.

Your belief is not required...it is proven truth

“Darwin was right..of course.”

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Evolution is true.....

#64738 Dec 11, 2012
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Lets get this clear. We have successful scientist that sees the bible as a book of truth about God.
I think this is not the issue of science but the issue of faith.
Charles, I see very clearly, and I do know that there are scientists who believe in a God. I also do know that the majority do not. This makes no difference in this discussion. I'm saying that you will never be able to prove God.

We have the real material evidence evidence and you have nothing but a feeling...faith. There is nothing but a 1700 year old book to back you up and that book IS being proven wrong day by day.

If there really was a God...you would be able to prove Him/Her/It. God is unprovable because it doesn't exist. And science is slowly proving this.

On the bright side, I wish you and any family you have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, my friend. I hope you prosper in your life.

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#64739 Dec 11, 2012
thewordofme wrote:
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Oh really, you have been hearing the same old garbage for years. I just heard about two years ago about the birth rate among Muslims being around twice the rate of Christians and it was two years ago that the Muslims surpassed Catholics in numbers. Many people who follow these things are predicting the Muslimization of Europe in around 20-30 years.
I, of course, understand that Christianity is still on the top, but it may soon loose top billing if currant trends continue.
Again Charles I have not lied to you at all in my posts to you...ever. And you will never prove that God exists. You do not know enough, and you don't seem to research enough. Not trying to dis-respect you, but you need to learn more.
Yes ofcourse, but lets bet it, despite that, Christianity will still supercede Islam. Some of the reasons are terrorisms, suicide bombings, etc.
Secondly, you need serious orientation about God. You don't know him, he exist.

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