Evolution vs. Creation

There are 20 comments on the Jan 6, 2011, Best of New Orleans story titled Evolution vs. Creation. In it, Best of New Orleans reports that:

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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Since: Nov 12

Milk River, Canada

#64467 Dec 11, 2012
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Your malice and hatred of God and the holy bible, will do you no good.
I'll agree with that. If you have malice or hatred for God, you have just about yielded the proof you deny as possible. You are saying that he does exits. Although it is not wrong to hate some of the terrible things that were done for the sake of the idea of God.
Charles Idemi wrote:
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You are wasting your time. GOD or his words can never be disproven.
But the problem is that the claim that the words in the bible are not God's words can't be disproven either. Besides that, multitudes of different meanings are ascribed to them by countless religious factions, so those have to be sorted out first.

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#64468 Dec 11, 2012
ChristineM wrote:
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Wrong, even the babble quotes your own god as acknowledging other gods. Whassup? You gods word not good enough for you? Or is it that like most godbots you ignore Exodus 12:12, Exodus 20:2-3 and Exodus 34:14
or how about
Psalm 82:1-2 - God has taken his place in the divine council; in the midst of the gods he holds judgment: "How long will you judge unjustly and show partiality to the wicked?
You can not turn the bible upside down.
God is one. The bible mentioned Baals, Asherah, Dagon, etc, as sub gods, and God also warned the people of Israel not to worship those disgusting gods.

“I started out with nothing”

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Since: Nov 10

and still got most of it left

#64469 Dec 11, 2012
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> A one and simple answer to this question, humans can never be God.
God is still God, that is why science is still lacking.
So you either didnít read my post pr didnít understand it, in either case well done for showing further evidence of your ignorance

It is not science that is lacking, it is you that is in denial yet you still manage to use science to tell the world that you believe science is lacking, as we already know, you are not only ignorant you are hypocritical
Honey

Nerang, Australia

#64470 Dec 11, 2012
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> And you are very sure about that guess?
God is one. Other gods or deities are man made gods or sub - gods.
God is one what? What are you trying to tell me. Are you saying he is like that Because if you are when that is so cool really cool WOW a gay god woohoo lolol I'm just messing with ya

Since: Nov 12

Milk River, Canada

#64471 Dec 11, 2012
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> The issue is that creation can never be ruled out in science or any thing.
I'd be the first to concede that point. It is the very definition of a moving goalpost anyway.

Although, Hawking and friends have taken a stab at it, I am far from convinced, I no matter how many symmetries they break in the process.

My hero is Noether, and being a fairly conservative fellow, I'll resist them trying to destroy all the symmetries in the equations of physics. All the beauty would be gone. They can jolly well stop picking at it. It's worse than the tragedy of the commons...

I am personally partial to the world upon the elephant standing on the back of the giant turtle, and still bigger turtles going all the way down...

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#64472 Dec 11, 2012
AustinHook wrote:
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I'll agree with that. If you have malice or hatred for God, you have just about yielded the proof you deny as possible. You are saying that he does exits. Although it is not wrong to hate some of the terrible things that were done for the sake of the idea of God.
<quoted text>
But the problem is that the claim that the words in the bible are not God's words can't be disproven either. Besides that, multitudes of different meanings are ascribed to them by countless religious factions, so those have to be sorted out first.
The different religious sects or factions, does not rule out the existence of God. God exist and he wants us to seek him.
Religious factions are man made.

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#64474 Dec 11, 2012
ChristineM wrote:
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So you either didnít read my post pr didnít understand it, in either case well done for showing further evidence of your ignorance
It is not science that is lacking, it is you that is in denial yet you still manage to use science to tell the world that you believe science is lacking, as we already know, you are not only ignorant you are hypocritical
I don't need to read any thing. Science is still not having the ultimate answers to human complicated.
Mortals are mortals.
Honey

Nerang, Australia

#64475 Dec 11, 2012
The Dude wrote:
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Nothing at all.
Except your petty god loves blood sacrifices.
Hey :) don't let the superstitious people get to you. Remember what they are, good entertainment and never loose your sense of humor. One more thing, when they say "so you think 95% of the people on the planet are wrong" I'd like to take a world poll now and I bet there are more people that believe in the scientific truth that an old, dying superstition.:)

“I started out with nothing”

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Since: Nov 10

and still got most of it left

#64476 Dec 11, 2012
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> You can not turn the bible upside down.
God is one. The bible mentioned Baals, Asherah, Dagon, etc, as sub gods, and God also warned the people of Israel not to worship those disgusting gods.
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> You can not turn the bible upside down.
God is one. The bible mentioned Baals, Asherah, Dagon, etc, as sub gods, and God also warned the people of Israel not to worship those disgusting gods.
Yes you can, just as with any other book, itís easy. However I think you are not talking about the physicality but about the interpretation. In that case too you are mistaken, there are as many interpretations as there are sects of your religion (and every one of the 38000+ sects of christianity claims to be the only correct one). The nice thing about reading it as a book rather than a as a religious guide is that you donít need to interpret based on what you are told to interpret but instead apply logic and literalness of the writing.

However those passages each mention other gods which you deny. Psalm 82:1-2 even mentions that he joined them, went amongst them, it does not mention anything about over them or subjugation of them, i.e. He considered himself equal, not above.

Yes the babble states he warned not to worship them but not that they were disgusting but he was jealous of them and he said so himself,
ďYou shall not worship them or serve them; for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous GodĒ(Exodus 20:4-5).

Say what? He is said in Revelation 19:6 (KJV) to be omnipotent yet he is petty?

Why is your view so different from your gods? So again you are ignoring the word of your god, some christian you turned out to be.

Since: Nov 12

Milk River, Canada

#64477 Dec 11, 2012
Honey wrote:
<quoted text>lololol WOW I didn't know there was that many But you've got to agree, its good entertainment lol
I'd like to pick Kali to be born in the image of. I could always use and extra hand...

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#64478 Dec 11, 2012
Honey wrote:
<quoted text>God is one what? What are you trying to tell me. Are you saying he is like that Because if you are when that is so cool really cool WOW a gay god woohoo lolol I'm just messing with ya
If you are from the US, UK, western Europe and some other parts of the world, you would know that there is only one God. The bible said so.

“I started out with nothing”

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Since: Nov 10

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#64479 Dec 11, 2012
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> I don't need to read any thing. Science is still not having the ultimate answers to human complicated.
Mortals are mortals.
More admission of your ignorance, how do you live with yourself?

Science is working on answers, unlike the godbots who are stuck in the bronze age yet willing to embrace that science that they decry to decry that science.

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Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#64480 Dec 11, 2012
Honey wrote:
<quoted text>Hey :) don't let the superstitious people get to you. Remember what they are, good entertainment and never loose your sense of humor. One more thing, when they say "so you think 95% of the people on the planet are wrong" I'd like to take a world poll now and I bet there are more people that believe in the scientific truth that an old, dying superstition.:)
Of course even the "95%" would have to admit that with a best case scenario 2/3 of the people on the planet are wrong. There is a slue of gods out there and the only thing they all agree on is that the others don't exist.

Hmm, maybe they are more right than I give them credit for. The whole world is at least 99.9% atheist!

“Nihil curo de ista tua stulta ”

Since: May 08

Orlando

#64481 Dec 11, 2012
Cybele wrote:
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According to that link:
"Intriguingly, the precursor molecules used by Sutherlandís team have been identified in interstellar dust clouds and on meteorites."
That's interesting because that could mean there is life out there!
....and since the planet earth has been continuously bombarded by intersteller debris in the form of asteroids, comets, etc since being formed, those compounds have 'hitched a ride' here as well.

Organic compounds and other essential substances in deep space, the ability of these chemicals to NATURALLY combine to create base elements for life (RNA).....

Hmmmm....

Since: Nov 12

Milk River, Canada

#64482 Dec 11, 2012
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> You can not turn the bible upside down.
God is one. The bible mentioned Baals, Asherah, Dagon, etc, as sub gods, and God also warned the people of Israel not to worship those disgusting gods.
There was something about Jehovah as meaning son of some father god that was also father to other gods in the region.

In any case you might be missing a good bet. Maybe Baal was the chief and Jehovah only the sub-God, or else why did the people of Israel keep going back to him every the leaders turned their backs. I hear that Baal was quite a party guy, though I didn't like having to sacrifice one's first born to him. Kind of puts a depressing palour on the party parlour

“I started out with nothing”

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Since: Nov 10

and still got most of it left

#64483 Dec 11, 2012
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> If you are from the US, UK, western Europe and some other parts of the world, you would know that there is only one God. The bible said so.
Location has buggerall to do with babble BS

The babble also states there were multiple gods as I have already shown you with the last hour, it even claims you god joined them. A point that you CHOOSE to ignore, thatís true christianity in a nutshell

Which bit of the babble ya going to believe (if any)?

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#64484 Dec 11, 2012
ChristineM wrote:
<quoted text>
<quoted text>
Yes you can, just as with any other book, itís easy. However I think you are not talking about the physicality but about the interpretation. In that case too you are mistaken, there are as many interpretations as there are sects of your religion (and every one of the 38000+ sects of christianity claims to be the only correct one). The nice thing about reading it as a book rather than a as a religious guide is that you donít need to interpret based on what you are told to interpret but instead apply logic and literalness of the writing.
However those passages each mention other gods which you deny. Psalm 82:1-2 even mentions that he joined them, went amongst them, it does not mention anything about over them or subjugation of them, i.e. He considered himself equal, not above.
Yes the babble states he warned not to worship them but not that they were disgusting but he was jealous of them and he said so himself,
ďYou shall not worship them or serve them; for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous GodĒ(Exodus 20:4-5).
Say what? He is said in Revelation 19:6 (KJV) to be omnipotent yet he is petty?
Why is your view so different from your gods? So again you are ignoring the word of your god, some christian you turned out to be.
Babbling!
You are interpreting the bible wrongly.
Go on with your gibberish.
Russell

Adelaide, Australia

#64485 Dec 11, 2012
TheBlackSheep wrote:
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Things that make me think:
Odd that an Aussie, talking to a fellow Aussie, would use an American reference. One would think that with all the racial issue the white Australians had with the Australian Aborigines, that a suitable Australian reference would have been used, thus ensuring the understanding between the two Aussies.
I am sure that many excuses will or could be made, but I wouldn't believe them. I believe that someone is lying about being an Aussie.
MazHere, whatcho lyin' fer agin
Honey

Nerang, Australia

#64486 Dec 11, 2012
AustinHook wrote:
<quoted text>
I'd like to pick Kali to be born in the image of. I could always use and extra hand...
HAHA that's more like it These E vs C comments can get a little heated and at the end of the day every sane person knows there isn't a god I mean DAR. I mean OK GOD, COME ON, SMITE ME O GOD, COME ON waiting waiting It's just soooo silly, but fun
Honey

Nerang, Australia

#64487 Dec 11, 2012
Subduction Zone wrote:
<quoted text>
Of course even the "95%" would have to admit that with a best case scenario 2/3 of the people on the planet are wrong. There is a slue of gods out there and the only thing they all agree on is that the others don't exist.
Hmm, maybe they are more right than I give them credit for. The whole world is at least 99.9% atheist!
O MY GOD YOUR RIGHT you should get a medal, you are brilliant. HAHA love it Thanks for the laugh.:)

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