Evolution vs. Creation

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High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.
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Dec 9, 2012
 
Cybele wrote:
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Ah, you want to know what I believe so you can debunk it right? I am not claiming anything to be "true" but like most physicists do I wonder if there is intelligent life out there or we wouldn't be spending billions of dollars building SETI.
Intelligent life on other planets really has nothing to do with evolution on the Earth. Why even bring it up here?

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I would argue science and religion are very close.
Science can recognize when it makes a mistake and changes.
Religion does the same this is proven by we no longer go on crusades to Jerusalem. We no longer own slaves. No more purification through pain (fire torture) we don't hunt witches. I think you get the point. Most modern Christians find these acts as they were done to be wicked.
So science and religion are growing and always changing.
How are they close? They serve two different purposes. Are you claiming that religious dogma can accurately explain the universe?

And religion has changed because it was forced to change. The world was/is moving on, and religion has to adapt. People stopped putting up with their BS, so they changed. People stopped being OK with witch burnings. People are getting fed up with religion trying to outlaw homosexual marriage and birth control. Some churches have already given up fighting a losing battle against societal progress. The rest will follow.

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Cybele wrote:
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Ah, you want to know what I believe so you can debunk it right? I am not claiming anything to be "true" but like most physicists do I wonder if there is intelligent life out there or we wouldn't be spending billions of dollars building SETI.
Are claiming anything to be false?

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Cybele wrote:
Dude, you can go on and on about my arguments. Yet so far, you haven't provided evidence!
If you accept the theory of evolution, then you would have to accept the M theory or string theory, blackholes, parallel universe or multiverse, etc.
And oh here's something for ya:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superseded_scien...
What is this I don't even

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I was provided evidence (to some not all) but the source didn't provide answers to my questions. It even says it on the source!
If you've taken all sciences then you would know that not all theories are legit or have eventually been superseded or replaced.
You're right. The fact that the geocentric model was superseded means that the TOE will go down in flames too.

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Intelligent life on other planets really has nothing to do with evolution on the Earth. Why even bring it up here?
because there are scientists particularly involved in the Human Genome project are leaning towards extraterrestrial origins

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because there are scientists particularly involved in the Human Genome project are leaning towards extraterrestrial origins
I guarantee you that they are not.

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I guarantee you that they are not.
think outside the box, where else could life on earth have come from?

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Find anything with any more scientific evidence supporting it.
At least my lesson of scientific evidence has gotten through.
I am not a biologist so I cannot argue the merits of all of their evidence for evolution. It is at least as massive as geologies. We have very good fossil lineages for quite a few species. Included are whales, horses, giraffes, elephants, many lines of dinosaurs, an almost unbelievable amount of sea life.
Since you seem to have trouble believing the theory of evolution why don't you tell us what you believe and we will tell you why it is wrong. This should be a give and take. We have been doing all of the giving, you have provided nothing except for negation.
Time to turn things around a bit.
Freakshow, there is no evidence in the fossil record for humans. You take the easy way out of accountability, confirming that we are accountable to a higher source. You are obviously a lazy freakstool of a human, excusing yourself from every bad mistake you have made.

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Cybele wrote:
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think outside the box, where else could life on earth have come from?
Jesus?

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<quoted text>Jesus?
Adam and Eve virus

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Freakshow, there is no evidence in the fossil record for humans. You take the easy way out of accountability, confirming that we are accountable to a higher source. You are obviously a lazy freakstool of a human, excusing yourself from every bad mistake you have made.
You seem to have an attitude problem..:-)

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Cybele wrote:
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think outside the box, where else could life on earth have come from?
Logical fallacy.

That one's called the "Argumentum ad Ignorantem" fallacy - in this case, "I dunno. God musta diddit."

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macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>Logical fallacy.
That one's called the "Argumentum ad Ignorantem" fallacy - in this case, "I dunno. God musta diddit."
where did I mention God on my post?

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Freakshow, there is no evidence in the fossil record for humans.
You mean the cemeteries are all empty?

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Cybele wrote:
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where did I mention God on my post?
Do you claim anything is false?

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Cybele wrote:
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Ah, you want to know what I believe so you can debunk it right? I am not claiming anything to be "true" but like most physicists do I wonder if there is intelligent life out there or we wouldn't be spending billions of dollars building SETI.
Do you claim anything is false?

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Cybele wrote:
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where did I mention God on my post?
Hmm.

You didn't, nor did the previous coupla posts.

My apologies - I usually keep better track of conversations than that.

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Cybele wrote:
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where did I mention God on my post?
You might as well have. You are saying that since we don't have an unreasonably thorough explanation of how life started on earth that some inexplicable "force" must have been responsible. As was already mentioned, this is an appeal to ignorance, and it does not make any sense. 10000 years ago you might have been telling us that lightning is so mysterious that aliens must be responsible.

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timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>You might as well have. You are saying that since we don't have an unreasonably thorough explanation of how life started on earth that some inexplicable "force" must have been responsible. As was already mentioned, this is an appeal to ignorance, and it does not make any sense. 10000 years ago you might have been telling us that lightning is so mysterious that aliens must be responsible.
That was the conclusion I drew, also.

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