Evolution vs. Creation

There are 20 comments on the Jan 6, 2011, Best of New Orleans story titled Evolution vs. Creation. In it, Best of New Orleans reports that:

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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#63692 Dec 6, 2012
Bat Foy wrote:
Kitten I brought pi 3.14159265359
what about fish?

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#63693 Dec 6, 2012
Cybele wrote:
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LOL. There are wild animal parks in Cali and also Safari West here. I don't care if you believe me or not.
There are a coupla good ones right around here (SoFla) also.

And you've still never seen a giraffe grazing.

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#63694 Dec 6, 2012
Cybele wrote:
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Ya and that burning bush that made Moses high and started tripping? haha!
Laffin. Yes.

Although I'd have thought it more likely to start him scratching...

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The Borderland of Sol

#63695 Dec 6, 2012
Oh, damn, was that my outside voice?

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The Borderland of Sol

#63696 Dec 6, 2012
Bat Foy wrote:
Kitten I brought pi 3.14159265359
I kinda like Key lime...

Since: Sep 12

United States

#63697 Dec 6, 2012
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>Wait, you may have gotten the wrong idea here.

There is a major qualitative difference between "Christians" and "Fundies".

There are quite a few Christians on Topix who are well-liked and respected by many of us unbelievers, and I doubt that any of us would begrudge you your beliefs or whatever comfort you derive from them.

The problem arises from a sloppiness in terminology. Some of us refer to Fundies as "Christians", in a generic sense. I've done it myself, and apologized for it, before.

You might simply have to deduce which meaning is intended from context.
I don't take the stuff on here personal. This is entertainment for me. It's 120am here I can't sleep so I do this.

Since: Sep 12

United States

#63698 Dec 6, 2012
Cybele wrote:
<quoted text>what about fish?
I can't calculate fish just pi I can make pi a circle but not a triangle :(

Since: Sep 12

United States

#63699 Dec 6, 2012
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>I kinda like Key lime...
I love science they made the sleep number bed which is the whole reason I even talk to you evos....... My bed evolved from a spring mattress to sleep number....lol

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Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#63700 Dec 6, 2012
Bat Foy wrote:
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No I believe God made man from dirt like the bible says. I would like to understand evolution though why they think the way they do. If they want to know about faith and the bible and aren't just going to call me stupid when I answer they are more than welcome to ask. I do believe things adapt to environment and such so they can survive but a dinosaur giving birth to a chicken not so much. I do find the whole thing fascinating.
If someone believed the Earth was flat because they had a book with a talking chicken in it would you give them much respect?

Faith is just another word for gullibility. You may think that you improved due to the Bible, but it was really your own work that made you improve.

We laugh at you because you do believe in something as foolish as believing that the Earth is flat because a chicken said so. There have been many scientists who have believed in creationism in the past. None of them have been able to find evidence for creation. Seriously, don't you think there were some scientists that have tried in the past? Even today various creation "institutions" will hire scientists who are willing to prostitute their learning and openly lie about "evidence" against evolution. They work on the false dichotomy of evidence against evolution being evolution for creation. Of course that is not the case. And even worse for them, their so called evidence is usually paper thin.

So go ahead and believe in Jesus, if you want to you can go ahead and believe the Old Testament fairy tales. Just remember the talking chicken.

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#63701 Dec 6, 2012
Cybele wrote:
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Don't confuse REAL SCIENCE with EVOLUTION. That site doesn't have anything about evolution, or missing links, or fossil records. Or did I not look hard enough?
I posted this to Maz, but she didn't respond.

If you want to talk science, answer these:

1) You believe in gravity, right? Tell us, in a single sentence, why the Earth does not pull the Earth towards it? How is the moon able to stay in the sky?

2) When digging for dinosaurs, why do I have to go down into deeper strata to find them? Why will I not find a dinosaur in the same strata than say, a lion, elephant or oryx?

3) When we radiometrically test the strata, why do we get more severe decay the deeper we do down?

4) GPS has allowed us to confirm that the continents are moving - at about 1-2 inches per year. Africa and South America's coast lines has a matching geologic profile - that implies that they were together at one stage in time. At the current rate of motion, the continents would have split up 97 million years ago. Do you have any other explanation that fit the facts?

5) Also by using the wonders of GPS technology, we measure that Everest is getting higher every year. Please, give a brief explanation of why

6) Take distilled water, put it into the microwave for about 5 minutes and add a spoonful of sugar. What would happen?

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#63702 Dec 6, 2012
Double Fine wrote:
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We gave you plenty of evidence. You are just incapable of interpreting it.
I am entitled to my own opinions and I will interpret it any way I want. The theory of evolution is a product of both logic and imagination. The only way TOE would make sense to me is that looking backwards can help us look forward. All theories that scientists conjured up would probably help us understand how a species WILL evolve through genetic manipulation. But that's just me. ;P

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...when I look to the West

#63703 Dec 6, 2012
Cybele wrote:
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Except someone proved you wrong. I never claimed ANYTHING whether cells reproduce sexually or not. You're too slow when it comes to humor.
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No, you clearly did not know that cells do not reproduce sexually.

If it wasn't made clear to you by Madrone, you still probably would think they do

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#63704 Dec 6, 2012
The Dude wrote:
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And will until Jesus comes back.
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1 - Jewmagic
2 - Jewmagic
3 - Jewmagic
4 - Jewmagic
5 - Jewmagic
6 - Jewmagic
Satisfied?
LOL! Brilliant

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#63705 Dec 6, 2012
FREE SERVANT wrote:
<quoted text>Pesticides are probably the dumbest thing we have over done.
Really?

Go talk to a farmer and ask what happens when we don't dust our crops.

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#63706 Dec 6, 2012
Cybele wrote:
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Then why do giraffes bend over to eat grass? The shorter ones will survive just as well. And where did giraffes evolve from?
Watch a documentary

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#63707 Dec 6, 2012
Bat Foy wrote:
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I can't calculate fish just pi I can make pi a circle but not a triangle :(
fish = 153

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#63708 Dec 6, 2012
Cybele wrote:
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oh that's right. Did you think giraffes lived in desserts? Before humans inhabited and trashed this land, there were abundance of grass. It's why we still have horses and cows and other herbivores alive today. LOL!
You do not know much about Africa, do you?

You don't know much about what they eat, right?

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Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#63709 Dec 6, 2012
Cybele wrote:
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I am entitled to my own opinions and I will interpret it any way I want. The theory of evolution is a product of both logic and imagination. The only way TOE would make sense to me is that looking backwards can help us look forward. All theories that scientists conjured up would probably help us understand how a species WILL evolve through genetic manipulation. But that's just me. ;P
You can think whatever you want. If you want to think that two plus two is five that is okay with me.

Of course you would be wrong.

Since: Sep 12

United States

#63710 Dec 6, 2012
Subduction Zone wrote:
<quoted text>If someone believed the Earth was flat because they had a book with a talking chicken in it would you give them much respect?

Faith is just another word for gullibility. You may think that you improved due to the Bible, but it was really your own work that made you improve.

We laugh at you because you do believe in something as foolish as believing that the Earth is flat because a chicken said so. There have been many scientists who have believed in creationism in the past. None of them have been able to find evidence for creation. Seriously, don't you think there were some scientists that have tried in the past? Even today various creation "institutions" will hire scientists who are willing to prostitute their learning and openly lie about "evidence" against evolution. They work on the false dichotomy of evidence against evolution being evolution for creation. Of course that is not the case. And even worse for them, their so called evidence is usually paper thin.

So go ahead and believe in Jesus, if you want to you can go ahead and believe the Old Testament fairy tales. Just remember the talking chicken.
I like chicken goes good in PI 3.14159265359.

I would take you at your word sir I really would if I hadn't experienced what I have. I have more reason to keep my faith than you can bring evidence for me not to. This doesn't help you because faith isn't the same for everyone. My personal experience is my reason for faith.

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Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#63711 Dec 6, 2012
Double Fine wrote:
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Really?
Go talk to a farmer and ask what happens when we don't dust our crops.
If you don't dust your crops you have to take out the big vacuum cleaner to keep them tidy.

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