Evolution vs. Creation

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008. Read more

Since: Sep 12

United States

#63569 Dec 6, 2012
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>There you go, wash, rinse, repeat, just like a trained monkey.

So, what does your mythology say your god made life from? Here's a hint: It's not alive.
Here you go singing the same bs you all do "I don't know so ill call you stupid" just answer the question if you don't know don't reply I wasn't asking you. If I need a stupid answer ill ask you.

Since: Sep 12

United States

#63570 Dec 6, 2012
The Dude wrote:
<quoted text>A crime many creationists are guilty of...
I wasn't until recently. I'm sick of asking a question and the goo clucks clan here calls me stupid because I don't know but if they're so smart why not just give the answer.

Level 6

Since: Mar 12

Location hidden

#63571 Dec 6, 2012
Bat Foy wrote:
<quoted text>
So if you believe in the constitution offering freedom to believe as you wish or not to what would you say to this quote.
"What must the United States do to rid ourselves of this blight (creationism) on humanity?"
Nothing, of course. Cre(a)ti(o)nists should be free. But how about this:

"What must the United States do to rid ourselves of this blight (creationism) on teaching of science in the classrooms"

Easy. No Cults allowed, especially Idiot Cults like Christian Fundamentalism.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#63572 Dec 6, 2012
Bat Foy wrote:
<quoted text>
That us right the problem with your argument is the letter explaining it isn't in the constitution nor is the phrase separation of church and state.
Nope. But this is:
First Amendment of the US Constitution wrote:
<quoted text>Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof...
And like I said, promoting or establishing any one religion over another *by definition* restricts the rights and free exercise of *every* other religion (or those of none) that do not receive the same benefits.

Hence "separation of church and state".
Bat Foy wrote:
<quoted text>The constitution protects the rights of those to not believe and those who wish to.
That it does.
TheIndependentMa jority

Somerset, KY

#63573 Dec 6, 2012
PROFESSOR X wrote:
<quoted text>
I know ... but someones got to help him get back to reality. It's not an accident that Darwin's theory is defended more by books and movies of science-FICTION than the scientific evidence. Too bad many of these scientist hide behind their degrees and unproven press releases in order to create the illusion of being authoritative, meanwhile they are busy behind the scenes censoring any and all scientific evidence that challenges Darwin's theory from reaching the public. They are also censoring professors in universities from exposing any information to the public that threatens their little monkey fairy-tale.
The roles have been reversed. The atheist and evolutionist is today - what the Catholic Church was in the past. They hate scientific advance and would rather shut down public discussion before confronting evidence that proves that all life did not arise from one common ancestor.
That doesn't mean that the earth has to be 6000 year old. But isn't it amazing how humans were suppose to have evolved from Apes 3 million years ago, but there are organisms that are in rock strata dated over 300 million years old that are still ALIVE TODAY and they are unchanged? What's so special about us that it's necessary for evolutionists invent pseudo-science stories only fit for the Sci-Fi Channel?
Darwinism Destroyed by Geological Evidence & Anomalies
http://cross.tv/64437
Huh, what about thaaaaaaaaaaaaaa tuh.

:-)
TheIndependentMa jority

Somerset, KY

#63574 Dec 6, 2012
Bat Foy wrote:
<quoted text>
So if you believe in the constitution offering freedom to believe as you wish or not to what would you say to this quote.
"What must the United States do to rid ourselves of this blight (creationism) on humanity?"
Which is the post that I replied to begin with.
And it's really all so simply theoretical. Like old tyme rock candy.

Merry CHRISTMAS :-).
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#63575 Dec 6, 2012
Bat Foy wrote:
<quoted text>
So if you believe in the constitution offering freedom to believe as you wish or not to what would you say to this quote.
"What must the United States do to rid ourselves of this blight (creationism) on humanity?"
Which is the post that I replied to begin with.
I would say education is the answer.

Keep in mind that unlike fundie atheists like Skippy the "Skeptic" (the type of person who Bohart thinks he can see everywhere) I do not consider Christians in general as automatic creationists. I also, despite my better judgement, still support the individual's right to believe in whatever cockameemee nonsense they like, such as YECism, UFO's, conspiracy theories, even Scientology. The First Amendment protects all, as long as none are forcing their beliefs onto others.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#63576 Dec 6, 2012
Chimney1 wrote:
<quoted text>
You mean "Greekmagic"? Works for me Dude!
Well they sure know how to party!
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#63577 Dec 6, 2012
TheIndependentMajority wrote:
<quoted text>
Huh, what about thaaaaaaaaaaaaaa tuh.
:-)
Yeah, shame fake Prof lied and couldn't back himself up.

“I Am No One Else”

Level 7

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#63578 Dec 6, 2012
Bat Foy wrote:
<quoted text>
Here you go singing the same bs you all do "I don't know so ill call you stupid" just answer the question if you don't know don't reply I wasn't asking you. If I need a stupid answer ill ask you.
Stop being stupid and people with active neurons will stop calling you stupid. You don't have to know things to be smart, you just have to be smart enough to know you don't know, and strong enough to admit it.
TheIndependentMa jority

Somerset, KY

#63579 Dec 6, 2012
The Dude wrote:
<quoted text>
Yeah, shame fake Prof lied and couldn't back himself up.
Always did say/think that the proverbial missing link lies somewhere in the "water ages" of this earth...and everything else just followed.

Derwin, like many others before--and STILL, just did NOT have the whole big picture.

Einstien has probably been the closest one...

Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind. Albert Einstein

Albert Einstein on:

Religion and Science

http://www.sacred-texts.com/aor/einstein/eins...
TheIndependentMa jority

Somerset, KY

#63580 Dec 6, 2012
Because--

Now, even though the realms of religion and science in themselves are clearly marked off from each other, nevertheless there exist between the two strong reciprocal relationships and dependencies. Though religion may be that which determines the goal, it has, nevertheless, learned from science, in the broadest sense, what means will contribute to the attainment of the goals it has set up. But science can only be created by those who are thoroughly imbued with the aspiration toward truth and understanding. This source of feeling, however, springs from the sphere of religion. To this there also belongs the faith in the possibility that the regulations valid for the world of existence are rational, that is, comprehensible to reason. I cannot conceive of a genuine scientist without that profound faith. The situation may be expressed by an image: science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind.

“what we think we become”

Level 5

Since: Aug 11

above and beyond

#63581 Dec 6, 2012
The Dude wrote:
<quoted text>
Yup, ALL science is wrong because YOU personally don't understand it.
By the way, here's plenty:
http://www.topix.com/forum/news/evolution/T9Q...
But then I DID warn you you turned up to the party a little late.(shrug)
Stop putting words in my mouth.

I didn't say ALL science is wrong. You just want to pretend that I don't understand anything about it. How much do you know about DNA that you are absolutely sure that changes in DNA led to evolution?

How do you explain a giraffe's long neck? Did it have to reach up that high to eat when it bends down to eat grass? That's just one example. I can go on and on and you wouldn't know the answer.
maybe

Atlanta, GA

#63582 Dec 6, 2012
Before you continue to dwell in this misguided belief please read this PDF.

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/BTP/Dr_Max_You...

“I Am No One Else”

Level 7

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#63583 Dec 6, 2012
Cybele wrote:
<quoted text>
Stop putting words in my mouth.
I didn't say ALL science is wrong. You just want to pretend that I don't understand anything about it. How much do you know about DNA that you are absolutely sure that changes in DNA led to evolution?
How do you explain a giraffe's long neck? Did it have to reach up that high to eat when it bends down to eat grass? That's just one example. I can go on and on and you wouldn't know the answer.
Wow, you make an veiled implication that you know something, then pull out an old canard, I mean a really old one ... no wait, there's two in there. Cant' count, a bit sleepy today.

Changes in the DNA IS evolution, good or bad, it's an evolutionary trait. A change in the DNA results in a difference in traits, basic genetics there.

Because shorter necked animals starved and didn't get a chance to breed. Please don't ever pull out this old one again, you will feel so stupid for doing it that you will curl up in a ball and just poke your fingers into your ears chanting "I know I'm right, I know I'm right" all night long, and this thread will grow a few more pages as a result.

“I Am No One Else”

Level 7

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#63584 Dec 6, 2012
maybe wrote:
Before you continue to dwell in this misguided belief please read this PDF.
http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/BTP/Dr_Max_You...
Sell your snake oil elsewhere. This is not the home shopping network where you peddle your useless junk.
TheIndependentMa jority

Somerset, KY

#63585 Dec 6, 2012
maybe wrote:
Before you continue to dwell in this misguided belief please read this PDF.
http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/BTP/Dr_Max_You...
Jesus's documented existance on this earth is just FINE--for SOME of us anyway!!:-)

Merry Christmas!!

“I Am No One Else”

Level 7

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#63586 Dec 6, 2012
TheIndependentMajority wrote:
Because--
Now, even though the realms of religion and science in themselves are clearly marked off from each other, nevertheless there exist between the two strong reciprocal relationships and dependencies. Though religion may be that which determines the goal, it has, nevertheless, learned from science, in the broadest sense, what means will contribute to the attainment of the goals it has set up. But science can only be created by those who are thoroughly imbued with the aspiration toward truth and understanding. This source of feeling, however, springs from the sphere of religion. To this there also belongs the faith in the possibility that the regulations valid for the world of existence are rational, that is, comprehensible to reason. I cannot conceive of a genuine scientist without that profound faith. The situation may be expressed by an image: science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind.
Another word for moderate is enabler, the two are identical concepts. Why should we allow those with the delusions that some imaginary being talks to them and influences the physical world, which they believe because of it lacking any demonstrable evidence, suffer longer? They need treatment for their delusion.
Anonymous

London, UK

#63587 Dec 6, 2012
On behalf of Britain I would like to appologise for UK sending all our crazy evangelists and wasps to USA centuries ago, now they're your problem, sorry, but I am happy that we don't have many left in britain now, the ones that werent burnt at the stake were expelled to America, that's where your problems with creos arise from, again sorry, but britain haa advanced muxh further after they went, its not a xoinxidence that the industrial revolution and enlightenment was born in britain right after we deported all our fundies to your god old USA, again sorry
TheIndependentMa jority

Somerset, KY

#63588 Dec 6, 2012
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>
Wow, you make an veiled implication that you know something, then pull out an old canard, I mean a really old one ... no wait, there's two in there. Cant' count, a bit sleepy today.
Changes in the DNA IS evolution, good or bad, it's an evolutionary trait. A change in the DNA results in a difference in traits, basic genetics there.
Because shorter necked animals starved and didn't get a chance to breed. Please don't ever pull out this old one again, you will feel so stupid for doing it that you will curl up in a ball and just poke your fingers into your ears chanting "I know I'm right, I know I'm right" all night long, and this thread will grow a few more pages as a result.
In short and simply put--EVOLUTION has a lot do with environmental adaptation.

But LOTS of people already know THAT.

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