Evolution vs. Creation

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High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.
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The Dude

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Dec 5, 2012
 
Bat Foy wrote:
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No I do not consider any religion but mine to be correct.
Ah, the essence of fundamentalism...

Now the thing is, are you capable of understanding that you can no more demonstrate your religion any more than the Hindu (or any other religion) can?

And if so, will you simply ignore that minor inconvenience like most other fundies do?
The Dude

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Dec 5, 2012
 
Chimney1 wrote:
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From your article:
"[Update 07/09 23:00 Indeed, to many scientists, these are the questions that matter, and ones that ENCODE has dodged through a liberal definition of “functional”. That, say the critics, critically weakens its claims of having found a genome rife with activity. Most of the ENCODE’s “functional elements” are little more than sequences being transcribed to RNA, with little heed to their physiological or evolutionary importance. These include repetitive remains of genetic parasites that have copied themselves ad infinitum, the corpses of dead and once-useful genes, and more."
Didn't you read down that far?
Only to see what was able to be cherry-picked.
The Dude

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#63400
Dec 5, 2012
 
Double Fine wrote:
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So 290 million year old
Oh, no no no no! 290MYA nothing because Maz is a YEC.

Darn.

I guess that means Maz has a problem...
FREE SERVANT

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#63401
Dec 5, 2012
 
The human brain is intricate in its fashioning and it is associated with the timing and functioning and correlating of much of the great complexity of the body. We as humans are apart from other creatures and much of our refinements are related to our brain and hand coordination. We think and feel with our hands. The hands contribute to the mental processes of thought and feeling.

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Milk River, Canada

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Dec 5, 2012
 
Bat Foy wrote:
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My God does not require people to have proof. He requires faith which is cool because I don't have proof but I have tons of faith.
Presented so starkly as that I just can't imagine where the faith comes from. It seems that it must be some weird interpretation of the word, but try as I may I can't figure any interpretation that makes sense.

In everyday life faith derives from proof, and doesn't float off on it's own, or have a standing even greater than the proof or evidence it relies upon. If faith were so essential for everyone, then they would have absolute faith in every new thought, and each time thereafter that they "thunk" it, and would never look to the proof. Then the world would be in a terrible mess.

Hmmmm... I wonder if the fact, that the world IS in a terrible mess, is telling us something?

60s chic

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Dec 5, 2012
 
Geez, this is not only corny, but not the truth.

http://www.youtube.com/watch...
The Dude

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Dec 5, 2012
 
Cybele wrote:
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I can't help it. It sounds funny.
Well if you could explain why mutations that matter are in reproductive systm, then we can continue to discuss.
ERV's. Except they aren't mutations. Not anymore. Now they're an established part of our genomes. This is what evolution DOES. Our DNA naturally changes over time, ergo each subsequent generation is slightly different to that which went before.
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#63405
Dec 5, 2012
 
Mankind was made in the image and likeness of the Creator and the God of the Bible has hands.
The Dude

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Dec 5, 2012
 
Cybele wrote:
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You keep saying that over and over but there aren't sufficient evidence to support TOE from the sources being posted here
O HAI! You were on page 2967! As you can see it's **quite a while** into the thread...

Here's 330347 papers demonstrating evolution.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed

But don't worry. Anything that has the word "delete" in it really proves JEWMAGIC and anything that doesn't is all part of the evil worldwide atheist Darwinist evolutionist scientist Liberal socialist Communist Nazi baby-eating anti-Christian God-hating Satan-worshiping Illuminati conspiracy so therefore really proves JEWMAGIC!

Any questions?
The Dude

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Dec 5, 2012
 
FREE SERVANT wrote:
Mankind was made in the image and likeness of the Creator and the God of the Bible has hands.
Yup, most apes do.(shrug)

God is an ape.

You said so.

Oh, and you got no way outta this one since it was a creationist who pointed out we were all apes in the first place.

Nuts.

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#63408
Dec 5, 2012
 
The Dude wrote:
<quoted text>Really? Then why does Maz lie? Why does she misrepresent genuine research? Why does she claim science she has already admitted to rejecting proves science wrong? Why claim she has an interest in science when her alternative is magic?

In short, why is she a typical fundie lying for Jesus hypocrite?
Wow you're a angry little fella aren't you smile some.
reality

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Dec 5, 2012
 
FREE SERVANT wrote:
Mankind was made in the image and likeness of the Creator and the God of the Bible has hands.
All of us has a common ancester that originated from either a comet or an asteriod hitting the Earth in just the right spot, certainly near shallow tidal water.
Nope! No "god" needed to make life here or anywhere else.
When we die, we rot, and are recycled back into the Earth.
There's no such thing as heaven. No hell either.
My family & I are very cool with all of this!
60s chic

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Dec 5, 2012
 
FREE SERVANT wrote:
Mankind was made in the image and likeness of the Creator and the God of the Bible has hands.
That phrase never quite resonated with me. Man is sinful by nature. People are murdered everyday, children are abused and living in poverty. Greedy wealthy elitists thinking only of themselves and their precious money. That's some image.

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Grand Prairie, TX

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Dec 5, 2012
 
The Dude wrote:
<quoted text>Ah, the essence of fundamentalism...

Now the thing is, are you capable of understanding that you can no more demonstrate your religion any more than the Hindu (or any other religion) can?

And if so, will you simply ignore that minor inconvenience like most other fundies do?
OH MY THANK YOU I SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING I'VE BEEN SO BLIND!!!
Pffffft hahahahahahahaha come off it like evolution isn't the religion of evolution. You hold faith your science is correct you spend time trying to find the truth you study the words and works of your greatest minds all you're missing is a little prayer. Than you say "how can anyone believe in God". I find it easier to believe "God dun it" than the universe farted and here we are.
The truth without eye witness accounts neither are provable beyond the shadow of a doubt.

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Dec 5, 2012
 
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<quoted text>Dude!! You got a Dell!
Dell FTW!

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Dec 5, 2012
 
60s chic wrote:
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That phrase never quite resonated with me. Man is sinful by nature. People are murdered everyday, children are abused and living in poverty. Greedy wealthy elitists thinking only of themselves and their precious money. That's some image.
That is the description of your god from the bible, so where's the difference? Well, for one, we actually help people just to help them, nowhere does it say your god does that.
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Dec 5, 2012
 
60s chic wrote:
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That phrase never quite resonated with me. Man is sinful by nature. People are murdered everyday, children are abused and living in poverty. Greedy wealthy elitists thinking only of themselves and their precious money. That's some image.
All people are born with a sinful or disobedient nature that must be brought into subjection. We inherit the sins of our fathers, its just the way it is, but the good news is we can overcome through faith in God and what he has done on the cross.
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Dec 5, 2012
 
reality wrote:
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All of us has a common ancester that originated from either a comet or an asteriod hitting the Earth in just the right spot, certainly near shallow tidal water.
Nope! No "god" needed to make life here or anywhere else.
When we die, we rot, and are recycled back into the Earth.
There's no such thing as heaven. No hell either.
My family & I are very cool with all of this!
There's no evidence that life on earth came here from another solar system, and even if it did, it just pushes the question back, where did the original life come from. It's far more likely that life on earth evolved naturally here on earth, and does so on many other planets and moons in the universe, as soon as the earth cooled down life emerged, so it seems to be a simple process and most likely the universe is full of life, but intelligent life is another matter, it could be extremely rare, its not very effective when you look at it, unintelligent life forms are more resilient and will no doubtly last far longer, inteligence could be an evolutionary dead end

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Dec 5, 2012
 
AustinHook wrote:
<quoted text>Presented so starkly as that I just can't imagine where the faith comes from. It seems that it must be some weird interpretation of the word, but try as I may I can't figure any interpretation that makes sense.

In everyday life faith derives from proof, and doesn't float off on it's own, or have a standing even greater than the proof or evidence it relies upon. If faith were so essential for everyone, then they would have absolute faith in every new thought, and each time thereafter that they "thunk" it, and would never look to the proof. Then the world would be in a terrible mess.

Hmmmm... I wonder if the fact, that the world IS in a terrible mess, is telling us something?
Everyone has a form of faith in something even if it is faith in themselves. Evos have faith that the science behind evolution is correct. The theory of evolution wasn't the brain child of just one person. So you have to believe the people who have been finding the evidence took no short cuts or didn't miss anything. Science rejects the supernatural in all forms. So logic says it wouldn't matter if God came down in a blaze of glory science would deny it.
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Dec 5, 2012
 
The Dude wrote:
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Yup, most apes do.(shrug)
God is an ape.
You said so.
Oh, and you got no way outta this one since it was a creationist who pointed out we were all apes in the first place.
Nuts.
Mankind has dominion over ALL other creatures on earth because we were created that way.

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