Evolution vs. Creation

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The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#63394 Dec 5, 2012
MazHere wrote:
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You need more faith in these screw ups you call evolutionaruy researchers than fat boy will ever need to have to believe in God.
You bow down to your evo reseachers and hold their hands through falsification after falsification and are still bowing. You evos are still wiping the egg off your faces from over 150 years of fraudulent claims for human knuckle walking ancestry that were falsified on the back of one single fossil, you numbnuts.
All the twoddle of having empirical evidence for junk dna that only a fool creo would not accept, is falsified. Now it is you evolutionists and all your gobble that have been proven to be the real misrepresentative idiots that rely on faith in these boofheads.
Yup. It's all just a big evil world-wide atheist Darwinist conspiracy, involving a multi-national conglomerate of different countries, the schools, the courts, the Governments, the scientific community at large and pretty much every major science organisation in the world.

Must suck to be you.
MazHere wrote:
The above is a small demonstration that those that are atheist evolutionists and consider themselves 'not marginalized', have been proven to be boofheads many times. The theist evos can hold hands with the atheists seeing as they denounce the power of God and rely on the reasonings of man. They to now have egg on their faces.
Except just a few problems - you're the one denouncing reality (ie: God's creation) to protect your massive (but fragile) ego and its baseless religious beliefs. You're also denouncing God by constantly ignoring the 9th Commandment. And everything you THINK you know about God (which in reality is just jack) you have to rely on the "reasonings" of... yep, you guessed it - MAN. Oh, and that little inconvenient bit about science being testable, and therefore vindicating the reasoning of men of science. At which point you give us apologetics which we debunk then you just ignore anyway to move onto your next set of dishonest spam.

Irony is not good to you, is it eh?
MazHere wrote:
Yours is a faith in mans reasonings and mans reasonings has been stumbling, changing and been falsified on a regular basis, whilst handing over data in support of creation to creos on a silver platter.
Hmm, let's see: You claim evolution can't be falsified but at the same time it's been falsified. You claim young Earth apologetics (which has been falsified long before you were even born) is "data that supports creationism". You then also cherry-pick tiny pieces of genuine research and claims that is "data that supports creationism", even though you have already REJECTED this data in the first place due to your previous theological convictions. In other words it DOES NOT MATTER what data exists, as you claim it all contradicts evolution anyway, even when it doesn't, and even when it DOES contradict your own position.

Feel free to turn your position into a coherent rational "scientific theory" any time now. I HAVE been providing you with that opportunity for MONTHS now.

Or is it still just Goddidit with magic?

Uhuh. Thought so.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#63395 Dec 5, 2012
MazHere wrote:
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1. Creationist predictions are continuing to be
Oh lookiee! The same old spam we refuted weeks ago.(yawn)

Hey Maz. What's the "scientific theory" of creationism?
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#63396 Dec 5, 2012
MazHere wrote:
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What questions?
I am not lying because I can present evidence to suport my view
Yeah, just ignore the fact it's all an incoherent mishmash when used to "support" Jewmagic.(shrug)
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#63397 Dec 5, 2012
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Goo - goo - goo!
Yup, I think you've finally found your level Chucks.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#63398 Dec 5, 2012
Bat Foy wrote:
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No I do not consider any religion but mine to be correct.
Ah, the essence of fundamentalism...

Now the thing is, are you capable of understanding that you can no more demonstrate your religion any more than the Hindu (or any other religion) can?

And if so, will you simply ignore that minor inconvenience like most other fundies do?
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#63399 Dec 5, 2012
Chimney1 wrote:
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From your article:
"[Update 07/09 23:00 Indeed, to many scientists, these are the questions that matter, and ones that ENCODE has dodged through a liberal definition of “functional”. That, say the critics, critically weakens its claims of having found a genome rife with activity. Most of the ENCODE’s “functional elements” are little more than sequences being transcribed to RNA, with little heed to their physiological or evolutionary importance. These include repetitive remains of genetic parasites that have copied themselves ad infinitum, the corpses of dead and once-useful genes, and more."
Didn't you read down that far?
Only to see what was able to be cherry-picked.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#63400 Dec 5, 2012
Double Fine wrote:
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So 290 million year old
Oh, no no no no! 290MYA nothing because Maz is a YEC.

Darn.

I guess that means Maz has a problem...
FREE SERVANT

Bellevue, WA

#63401 Dec 5, 2012
The human brain is intricate in its fashioning and it is associated with the timing and functioning and correlating of much of the great complexity of the body. We as humans are apart from other creatures and much of our refinements are related to our brain and hand coordination. We think and feel with our hands. The hands contribute to the mental processes of thought and feeling.

Since: Nov 12

Milk River, Canada

#63402 Dec 5, 2012
Bat Foy wrote:
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My God does not require people to have proof. He requires faith which is cool because I don't have proof but I have tons of faith.
Presented so starkly as that I just can't imagine where the faith comes from. It seems that it must be some weird interpretation of the word, but try as I may I can't figure any interpretation that makes sense.

In everyday life faith derives from proof, and doesn't float off on it's own, or have a standing even greater than the proof or evidence it relies upon. If faith were so essential for everyone, then they would have absolute faith in every new thought, and each time thereafter that they "thunk" it, and would never look to the proof. Then the world would be in a terrible mess.

Hmmmm... I wonder if the fact, that the world IS in a terrible mess, is telling us something?

60s chic

Bethlehem, PA

#63403 Dec 5, 2012
Geez, this is not only corny, but not the truth.

The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#63404 Dec 5, 2012
Cybele wrote:
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I can't help it. It sounds funny.
Well if you could explain why mutations that matter are in reproductive systm, then we can continue to discuss.
ERV's. Except they aren't mutations. Not anymore. Now they're an established part of our genomes. This is what evolution DOES. Our DNA naturally changes over time, ergo each subsequent generation is slightly different to that which went before.
FREE SERVANT

Bellevue, WA

#63405 Dec 5, 2012
Mankind was made in the image and likeness of the Creator and the God of the Bible has hands.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#63406 Dec 5, 2012
Cybele wrote:
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You keep saying that over and over but there aren't sufficient evidence to support TOE from the sources being posted here
O HAI! You were on page 2967! As you can see it's **quite a while** into the thread...

Here's 330347 papers demonstrating evolution.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed

But don't worry. Anything that has the word "delete" in it really proves JEWMAGIC and anything that doesn't is all part of the evil worldwide atheist Darwinist evolutionist scientist Liberal socialist Communist Nazi baby-eating anti-Christian God-hating Satan-worshiping Illuminati conspiracy so therefore really proves JEWMAGIC!

Any questions?
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#63407 Dec 5, 2012
FREE SERVANT wrote:
Mankind was made in the image and likeness of the Creator and the God of the Bible has hands.
Yup, most apes do.(shrug)

God is an ape.

You said so.

Oh, and you got no way outta this one since it was a creationist who pointed out we were all apes in the first place.

Nuts.

Since: Sep 12

Fort Worth, TX

#63408 Dec 5, 2012
The Dude wrote:
<quoted text>Really? Then why does Maz lie? Why does she misrepresent genuine research? Why does she claim science she has already admitted to rejecting proves science wrong? Why claim she has an interest in science when her alternative is magic?

In short, why is she a typical fundie lying for Jesus hypocrite?
Wow you're a angry little fella aren't you smile some.
reality

Germantown, OH

#63409 Dec 5, 2012
FREE SERVANT wrote:
Mankind was made in the image and likeness of the Creator and the God of the Bible has hands.
All of us has a common ancester that originated from either a comet or an asteriod hitting the Earth in just the right spot, certainly near shallow tidal water.
Nope! No "god" needed to make life here or anywhere else.
When we die, we rot, and are recycled back into the Earth.
There's no such thing as heaven. No hell either.
My family & I are very cool with all of this!
60s chic

Bethlehem, PA

#63410 Dec 5, 2012
FREE SERVANT wrote:
Mankind was made in the image and likeness of the Creator and the God of the Bible has hands.
That phrase never quite resonated with me. Man is sinful by nature. People are murdered everyday, children are abused and living in poverty. Greedy wealthy elitists thinking only of themselves and their precious money. That's some image.

Since: Sep 12

Fort Worth, TX

#63411 Dec 5, 2012
The Dude wrote:
<quoted text>Ah, the essence of fundamentalism...

Now the thing is, are you capable of understanding that you can no more demonstrate your religion any more than the Hindu (or any other religion) can?

And if so, will you simply ignore that minor inconvenience like most other fundies do?
OH MY THANK YOU I SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING I'VE BEEN SO BLIND!!!
Pffffft hahahahahahahaha come off it like evolution isn't the religion of evolution. You hold faith your science is correct you spend time trying to find the truth you study the words and works of your greatest minds all you're missing is a little prayer. Than you say "how can anyone believe in God". I find it easier to believe "God dun it" than the universe farted and here we are.
The truth without eye witness accounts neither are provable beyond the shadow of a doubt.

“I Am No One Else”

Level 7

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#63412 Dec 5, 2012
barefoot2662 wrote:
<quoted text>Dude!! You got a Dell!
Dell FTW!

“I Am No One Else”

Level 7

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#63413 Dec 5, 2012
60s chic wrote:
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That phrase never quite resonated with me. Man is sinful by nature. People are murdered everyday, children are abused and living in poverty. Greedy wealthy elitists thinking only of themselves and their precious money. That's some image.
That is the description of your god from the bible, so where's the difference? Well, for one, we actually help people just to help them, nowhere does it say your god does that.

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