Evolution vs. Creation

[Indy_Pendent]

Subduction Zone wrote:

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Science never goes against God. The Christian Bible is not God, it w as written by men. Even if inspired it would be easy for them to make mistakes. There are countless mistakes in your Bible.

It wasn't written by just any men... ancient, superstitious goat herders. Clearly they are a far superior breed of intelligent, insightful men even by today's standards.

[Indy_Pendent]

Subduction Zone wrote:

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Let me tempt you with an even better god.
What is your position on beer?

I drink Budweiser every evening while on my recliner while watching Fox News... Why?

[Subduction Zone]

Constitution-lover wrote:

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THERE IS NO MISTAKES IN THE BIBLE LIAR..........It is flawless. And yes evolution science goes againt Gods word and truth,...You might have come from a monkey but I am made in GODS IMAGE...

I am not lying. What would I gain by lying? Do you need to see the errors for yourself? The self contradictions? The errors in science? That they thought the world was flat?

[Subduction Zone]

Constitution-lover wrote:

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No...Th earth is no more then 20,000 years old..FACTS DONT CHANGE WITH YOUR JUNK SATAN SCIENCE...

So, you wouldn't use that "JUNK SATAN SCIENCE" in your everyday life?

[Indy_Pendent]

Constitution-lover wrote:

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THERE IS NO MISTAKES IN THE BIBLE LIAR..........It is flawless. And yes evolution science goes againt Gods word and truth,...You might have come from a monkey but I am made in GODS IMAGE...

Likewise, there IS no mistakes in your post. And there certainly IS no mistakes in your logic.

[Subduction Zone]

Indy_Pendent wrote:

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It wasn't written by just any men... ancient, superstitious goat herders. Clearly they are a far superior breed of intelligent, insightful men even by today's standards.

Well that goes without saying. Of course we don't want to say what they did with those goats. A man does get lonely though.

[Sublime1]

Bat Foy wrote:

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I'm a Christian I believe in God because of several points in my life where I had problems and beyond all logical reasoning God was there. As far as other Gods I only believe in one true God. I neither force my beliefs on other nor hold a grudge so to speak against evos such as yourself. I have seen God work in ways you can't explain away as coincidence. I believe God created all life because I have no reason to doubt it. If you care to dance please make it a waltz I'm not much of a dancer.

How did you know god was there? What happened to cause you to believe this, if I may ask?

Also, my questions were direct to Mazhere, who denies evolution.

It is possible for a person such as you to believe in god and still acknowledge evolution exists due to the will of god.

Simply because one believes in god, I fail to see why one should ignore observable facts and deny evolution.

[Subduction Zone]

Indy_Pendent wrote:

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I drink Budweiser every evening while on my recliner while watching Fox News... Why?

Patience, patience. And strippers?(think vestal virgins if strippers makes you uneasy).

[FREE SERVANT]

According to the BIble as in GEN6:4 men before the flood were giants and they became mighty men which were of old, men of renown. Noah built things and his son Ham had a son Cush who begat Nimrod. Nimrod built cities and the Assyrian capital of NImrud (ancient Kalhu) near Mosul (Iraq) may have been one of them. The people of that day had knowledge of how to make morter which may have been a technique to dissolve or soften the stone by the use of acid plant extracts. When the city and tower of Babel were built they may have made the soft stone from desolved material then cast the blocks at the building place. The cast stone may have looked like machined fit in the buildings for this reason. Anyway to make a long theory short; Nimrod may have taken this bulding technique through out the world and it may have came to the coast of westen Mexico from people of that day who followed ocean currents. The Puma Punky complex at Tia huanaco Boliva has examples of the cast stone and its apparent advanced machining.

[Elohim]

Subduction Zone wrote:

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Let me tempt you with an even better god.
What is your position on beer?

Sitting on an Adirondack chair watching the sunset behind the mountain with a nice pint in my hand.

[Elohim]

Indy_Pendent wrote:

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I drink Budweiser every evening while on my recliner while watching Fox News... Why?

Not Pabst Blue Ribbon?

[lisawow]

Bat Foy wrote:

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I do not spout to much of the modern church tag line. Their is a ton of crap the church has done and said over the last few hundred years. Jesus taught about love, forgiveness, not just for the elect groupies of church goers but for all man kind. Just because a person sins doesn't mean God votes you off the island. The churches message of our way or you'll burn is chasing people from God and it makes me mad. Ok I'm off my soap box now. How is everyone tonight?

I give you credit for letting your beliefs rise above dogma and doctrine, I'vE never had a problem with an individuals right to believe in whatever they so choose, the danger lies wherein they form a community to demand everyone adheres to those self same beliefs, american history likes to say that the puritans came to the new world to escape religious persecution, when experience shows that they in fact came to "impose" religious persecution, my way or the high way alas!! most evolutionists don't oppose an individuals right to spiritual beliefs only the mandated imposition of said beliefs on the community at large.........

[Indy_Pendent]

FREE SERVANT wrote:

According to the BIble as in GEN6:4 men before the flood were giants and they became mighty men which were of old, men of renown. Noah built things and his son Ham had a son Cush who begat Nimrod. Nimrod built cities and the Assyrian capital of NImrud (ancient Kalhu) near Mosul (Iraq) may have been one of them. The people of that day had knowledge of how to make morter which may have been a technique to dissolve or soften the stone by the use of acid plant extracts. When the city and tower of Babel were built they may have made the soft stone from desolved material then cast the blocks at the building place. The cast stone may have looked like machined fit in the buildings for this reason. Anyway to make a long theory short; Nimrod may have taken this bulding technique through out the world and it may have came to the coast of westen Mexico from people of that day who followed ocean currents. The Puma Punky complex at Tia huanaco Boliva has examples of the cast stone and its apparent advanced machining.

oh. We're rewriting history now? And of course we're going to use phrases like "may have". It makes this nonsense sound more official. I may have graduated with a PHD in History from Oxford, but even a fool can see through "may have" statements that aren't supported by any evidence.

[Subduction Zone]

Well we have a couple of people who can appreciate liquid bread here. So I am going to give a pitch for Pastafarianism:
http://www.venganza.org/images/spreadword/sk_...
Under "Why Should You Convert?"

Our heaven is WAY better. We've got a Stripper Factory and a Beer Volcano.

Nuff said.
And to put it very simply:
http://www.venganza.org/wp-content/uploads/20...
I bet Constitution Lover has no answer to that.

[Elohim]

Constitution-lover wrote:

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There is none. Try to prove your lie if you can. REMEMBER IN GOD ALL THINSG ARE POSSIBLE....GOD DID THINGS OUTSIDE OF WHAT WE CAN UNDERSTAND..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =Spk43e7jOlU

[Subduction Zone]

Constitution-lover wrote:

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There is good science. And then there is satanic science. I cant use evolution lies in my life everyday....

Really? We won't talk about where the plastic that you probably use every day comes from, but how do you think that they found the petroleum that you use to power your car every day? They did not use Bible approved science to find it, I can guarantee you that.

[Double Fine]

Sublime1 wrote:

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LOL. I'm actually a genetics major. What's your cred?
Also, how about instead of telling ME to do research to prove that YOU are correct, you point me to some article that indicates such, rather than using conclusory statements, which basically amount to you saying I am are wrong, and you are right, without using any facts or data to support your position?

Yo Sublime.

A genetics major? Double Fine was unaware.

What was said argument about?

[Indy_Pendent]

Subduction Zone wrote:

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Patience, patience. And strippers?(think vestal virgins if strippers makes you uneasy).

If by strippers you mean the blonde gal on Fox and Friends (Gretchen), then oh yes! To finish my Fox news bit earlier, I watch Fox News from my recliner with a beer in my LEFT hand, while masturbating to Gretchen with my right hand. It's not a sin if it's Fox News. Plus I'm left handed, so using my right hand to masturbate is like someone else doing it, like Gretchen. So, even if it is a sin, it's Gretchen's, not mine.

[Indy_Pendent]

Elohim wrote:

<quoted text>Not Pabst Blue Ribbon?

Bud is cheaper at the local gas station.

[Subduction Zone]

Elohim wrote:

<quoted text>http://www.youtube.com/watch...

You might want to post this again. This post sent me to my opening page. It did not go to a specific video.