Evolution vs. Creation

Evolution vs. Creation

There are 216897 comments on the Best of New Orleans story from Jan 6, 2011, titled Evolution vs. Creation. In it, Best of New Orleans reports that:

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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anonymous

Chagrin Falls, OH

#61390 Nov 28, 2012
Double Fine wrote:
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Yes, but how about the rings of debris around Uranus?
They do prove alot.
Well, without proper testing, those rings only suggest that the Lagrangain points were produced by massive bodies in motion. You'll have to consider the extended mechanics and ignore shape and internal structure in order to to work out a solution.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#61391 Nov 28, 2012
facts 101 wrote:
to have a creation of anything you must have a creator. think about it.
Perhaps. But that need not necessarily mean it's intelligent.

Also quantum physics has already demonstrated the creation of particle/anti-particle pairs in a vacuum, no creator needed.

Back to the drawing board then eh?
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#61392 Nov 28, 2012
Subduction Zone wrote:
I had to run be away from my computer for quite a bit of today, but did Maz ever apologize for her posting of that nonsense about Sanford? His work was not peer reviewed. He wrote a book for Bog's sake. It has been debunked many times over and never taken seriously. And she has yet to explain why a trip cannot occur at a rate of 5 mph.
NOT SO FAR!

Distance still equals rate, right?

:-/
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#61393 Nov 28, 2012
Bat Foy wrote:
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I see what you are saying and I'm not say evolution in it entirety would be the oops however I have tried just in the last 3 days to read all these links to different ideas and while the base idea has been close most try to prove the last one false. I understand this is part of the process. However the science behind evolution will most likely not come up with evidence that completely removes the possibility of God.
Nothing in science will. That's because the God concept is non-falsifiable. If it's not falsifiable then it's not scientific and has nothing to do with science. It's not science's job to remove the possibility of God. It doesn't even need to consider it at all.

Same goes for any other scientific theory. Weather prediction and gravity theories don't make any use of "God" in their scientific hypotheses. That's because it's doesn't do anything for science.
Bat Foy wrote:
Even if all evidence pointed to the existence of intelligent design science would still deny it is there. This is because the idea could not be reproduced by testing.
If it cannot be reproduced by testing, then there is no evidence. If there is evidence then it can be tested. Science WOULD accept the existence of intelligent design.

It's just that no-one can provide any scientific evidence yet.
anonymous

Chagrin Falls, OH

#61394 Nov 28, 2012
The Dude wrote:
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NOT SO FAR!
Distance still equals rate, right?
:-/
That might be over-analyzing.:D
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#61395 Nov 28, 2012
Bat Foy wrote:
If evolution held all the answers we would not be having this talk on 4 or 5 threads through thousands of posts.
It doesn't have all the answers, and never claimed to. However even when it does have answers they are often ignored by reality-denying liars for Jesus like Maz who have been indoctrinated with Dark Age thinking. The Flat Earth society still exists despite the fact that Earth's shape has been known not to be flat for quite a long time.

“First it steals your mind..”

Level 5

Since: Jun 11

..and then it steals your soul

#61396 Nov 28, 2012
anonymous wrote:
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Well, without proper testing, those rings only suggest that the Lagrangain points were produced by massive bodies in motion. You'll have to consider the extended mechanics and ignore shape and internal structure in order to to work out a solution.
I hear you, but your theory was refuted by Klingons
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#61398 Nov 28, 2012
UIdiotRaceMAKEWORLDPEACE wrote:
<quoted text>Science can be ssed for good and bad ans so is Religions.
Yup.

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#61399 Nov 28, 2012
Constitution-lover wrote:
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Do you know who created science and how all things work??? YEP GOD DID IT. God is the geatest scientist ever. Think of how the Universe works and how all life works. God is amazing isnt he.
How could that be? So no one has shown that any god exists, much less your particular god. What is your evidence? Why should anyone else believe you?

“When you treat people as they ”

Level 6

Since: Nov 10

treat you they get offended.

#61401 Nov 28, 2012
Constitution-lover wrote:
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Do you know who created science and how all things work??? YEP GOD DID IT. God is the geatest scientist ever. Think of how the Universe works and how all life works. God is amazing isnt he.
Science requires falsifiable evidence

If you cannot show falsifiable evidence it is NOT science

You are however entitled to you own personal beliefs. That however does not mean that you beliefs are in any way scientific, it just means that you have an imagination – a limited one it’s true but an imagination all the same

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#61402 Nov 28, 2012
Constitution-lover wrote:
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The Bible tells us all we nee to know. If you opened your heart and mind you would see Gods hand on all things.
Now you dont have to believe me and I only pitty fools who dont put there faith in God. I will go to heaven to worship and sing Gods praise for eternity. If you dont follow God you will burn in agony for all eternity....WHY WOULD YOU WANT THAT?
Every religion has the equivalent of your Bible. It is not a valid reason to believe your faith, especially since it has been shown to be loaded with flaws. Yes, it is sometimes correct historically, but it also has bad science, bag geography, unfufilled prophecies, prophecies with very strong evidence they were "fulfilled" by the writers, extremely bad morals. The list goes on and on. So why should we believe your holy book over the Arabs holy book? Or the Indian's holy book? Or the countless extinct religions for that matter.

I could tell you how if you don't believe in the Flying Spaghetti Monster you will never be able to enjoy his beer volcanoes and stripper factories after you did.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#61403 Nov 28, 2012
Constitution-lover wrote:
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Do you know who created science and how all things work??? YEP GOD DID IT. God is the geatest scientist ever. Think of how the Universe works and how all life works. God is amazing isnt he.
Perhaps. But unfortunately for you you can't demonstrate that scientifically. Ergo it is just as possible that your god doesn't exist at all.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#61405 Nov 28, 2012
Constitution-lover wrote:
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The Bible tells us all we nee to know.
Like the Earth is a flat square circle and that lizards, donkeys and bushes can talk.
Constitution-lover wrote:
If you opened your heart and mind you would see Gods hand on all things.
Now you dont have to believe me and I only pitty fools who dont put there faith in God. I will go to heaven to worship and sing Gods praise for eternity. If you dont follow God you will burn in agony for all eternity....WHY WOULD YOU WANT THAT?
If you opened your heart and mind you would see Zeus's hand on all things.

Now you dont have to believe me and I only pity fools who dont put their faith in Zeus. I will go to heaven to worship and sing Zeus's praise for eternity. If you don't follow Zeus you will be zapped by lightning bolts in agony for all eternity. WHY WOULD YOU WANT THAT?
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#61406 Nov 28, 2012
Constitution-lover wrote:
I respect everyones choice to not follow God.
No you don't. That's why you're telling us we'll burn in hell for simply disagreeing with YOU, YOU of all people.

Who are you again?
Constitution-lover wrote:
You can all have your Satanic science.
Then reality is Satanic.
Constitution-lover wrote:
As for me and my family we will follow God. The God of the Holy Bible is the one and only true God and power in the universe.
How sad for you to look forward to death so.
Constitution-lover wrote:
Fact is fact.
Yes, and you have none. If you had facts you would have objective evidence. Since you don't have evidence you don't have facts. That's just how it is. You'll just have to deal with the fact that people don't take you at face value. Sorry if you don't like it.

Level 2

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#61408 Nov 28, 2012
anonymous wrote:
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Yes, you repeat as usual.
Thanks for sharing. Bless His noodley love of us all. rAMEN!
Do your research and see for your self.
Just type Cyril Babaev, and press the search engine using google.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#61409 Nov 28, 2012
Constitution-lover wrote:
Just think though in your mind. If I am right and you dont believe you will burn in hell....How can you take that chance?
Just think though in your mind. If I am right and you dont believe, you will suffer lightning bolts forever. How can you take that chance?

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#61411 Nov 28, 2012
Constitution-lover wrote:
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Only God is real. All those idol gods are fake...That is diffence.
One more time, that is what all of the other religions claim too.

Why should we take your word that your religion is right?
Elohim

Branford, CT

#61412 Nov 28, 2012
Constitution-lover wrote:
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Only God is real. All those idol gods are fake...That is diffence.
Your god is as "real" as any other god, goddess or deity.

“America -God's Favorite Cuntry”

Since: Aug 12

Real America, USA

#61413 Nov 28, 2012
Dude,

In order to see God, you have to open your heart. Incidentally, while the heart is open the eyes must be shut, ears must be plugged, and the mind off. Basically you must have no use of your senses, especially common sense. Those who are capable of doing these acts are virtuous among the faithful.

Until you feel the mind numbing effects of christianity, you will never understand.

“America -God's Favorite Cuntry”

Since: Aug 12

Real America, USA

#61414 Nov 28, 2012
Constitution-lover wrote:
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Only God is real. All those idol gods are fake...That is diffence.
Every religion is correct about one thing.... that all other religions are false.

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