Evolution vs. Creation

[NikkiShae]

MazHere wrote:

<quoted text>Unfortunately, the evolutionary fiasco played out like the changing scenes and scenarios that support the overarching TOE is much like any bed time story and cannot be proven to not exist. That is why TOE is virtually unfalsifiable and does not meet the a credible standard of falsifiability.

Hence, my question in relation to evolutionists predictions around non coding dna. What supports TOE? If in 50 years time it is demonstrated that all of the genome is functional, as creationists predict, what then? Does that mean TOE is flse?

Not on Darwins death bed! Hence although TOE can make a few scant predictions, it is virtually unfalsifiable and has little predictability.

All faiths can interpret data to suit themselves and come up with their own algorithmic magic to support themselves.

I think to be closed to only one view is problematic.

The thing is it seriously looks like creos are on better tracks than evos.

General creationist predictions on junk dna and so called vestigal organs are being supported more as time goes on. That appears to be a fact. These are stable predictions.

If proven in time, I suggest evolutionists will have lost a huge support for evolutionary theory, despite any handwaving they come up with to explain it.

For the last 2000+ years the sheep have been stating that "one day you'll see".

[NikkiShae]

Charles Idemi wrote:

<quoted text>To God be the glory.
Without God, there is no earth or universe( planets).

Says who?

[Charles Idemi]

ChristineM wrote:

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So that’s how you manage to survive, you seem to be in a dream, you are totally ignorant of the effect you spite and hatred has on people, you are clueless to the facts of the real world
Yes you living in a dream world really does make sense

All humans do dream...
May be you are not a human.

[Charles Idemi]

NikkiShae wrote:

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I've never found concrete evidence to date to invalidate the existence of the boogie man under my bed. Oh wait, I looked and he wasn't there.

Funny. God is ominispresent, he is every where. Feel his presence.

[Gstspkr]

NikkiShae wrote:

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For the last 2000+ years the sheep have been stating that "one day you'll see".

And since Plato's Republic, men have been creating Utopias. At the expense of others in the fine progressive fashion.

[KittenKoder]

Charles Idemi wrote:

<quoted text> All humans do dream...
May be you are not a human.

Actually, no. In REM sleep not all of the brain's activities cause a dream, what we see as a dream is actually processing of information that we recall in the morning, but the memories of that process are incomplete, thus they get blanks filled in with randomness. The effect eventually fades, some people it fades immediately on waking, thus they have no "dream," to them it is all just sleep.

[ChristineM]

Charles Idemi wrote:

<quoted text> All humans do dream...
May be you are not a human.

There you go again making god like assumptions

Did I say I did not dream, no I did not, I commented on YOUR statement about YOU.

You don’t like that then don’t make stupid statements

[NikkiShae]

Charles Idemi wrote:

<quoted text>Funny. God is ominispresent, he is every where. Feel his presence.

The power of imagination.

[Charles Idemi]

NikkiShae wrote:

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Says who?

What brought about the earth.

[KittenKoder]

Gstspkr wrote:

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And since Plato's Republic, men have been creating Utopias. At the expense of others in the fine progressive fashion.

So your primitive morals failed to identify methods of progress without bloodshed. We have evolved past that now, catch up.

[NikkiShae]

KittenKoder wrote:

<quoted text>Actually, no. In REM sleep not all of the brain's activities cause a dream, what we see as a dream is actually processing of information that we recall in the morning, but the memories of that process are incomplete, thus they get blanks filled in with randomness. The effect eventually fades, some people it fades immediately on waking, thus they have no "dream," to them it is all just sleep.

I dreamed that I had a pizza cutter once a long time ago. I remember looking everywhere for it because I wanted to make quesadillas.

[NikkiShae]

Charles Idemi wrote:

<quoted text>What brought about the earth.

The nature of the universe.

[MazHere]

NikkiShae wrote:

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I dreamed that I had a pizza cutter once a long time ago. I remember looking everywhere for it because I wanted to make quesadillas.

With all your words you do realize that you never have anything of substance to say.

[KittenKoder]

NikkiShae wrote:

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I dreamed that I had a pizza cutter once a long time ago. I remember looking everywhere for it because I wanted to make quesadillas.

lol Those types of dreams annoy me. I dreamed had a pet cat recently, and almost bought cat food at the store before realizing I haven't had a pet since I moved here.

[ChristineM]

Gstspkr wrote:

<quoted text> Ah ! The English slave trader's best friend has arrived. I'm in fine company now.

You too are making god like guesses, why is that? Is it something you are taught in hate the non believers godbot school?

I may live less than an hours drive from The Dude but friend? Nope, never met the guy, you may live where everyone knows what flavour condoms people in a 100 mile radius use but the UK has a different life style.

I do however appreciate his intelligence and his obvious education and knowledge of a wide variety of subjects. I am afraid you will be unable to change facts using the indoctrinated hatred and deliberate misunderstanding of godbot school

You can however make silly guesses and post stupid, irrelevant and totally hilarious lying statements if it makes you feel better, we all like a good laugh now and again

[ChristineM]

Charles Idemi wrote:

<quoted text> What brought about the earth.

Gravity, accretion and time

Next

[KittenKoder]

Charles Idemi wrote:

<quoted text> What brought about the earth.

Chemical reactions, gravity, and a bunch of elements from a dead star.

[NikkiShae]

MazHere wrote:

<quoted text>With all your words you do realize that you never have anything of substance to say.

Sorry to disappoint you. I'll just assume that you'll just ignore my lack of substance in the future. Cheers.

[ChristineM]

MazHere wrote:

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With all your words you do realize that you never have anything of substance to say.

Nikki says plenty and much has substance but hey we are all entitled to a little levity now and again, we know you were not amused but others were amused by the humanity of the post

You too seem to have a lot of words but no evidence and are never available or able to answer queries, of refutations of you copy and paste BS

But if you like being seen as a hypocritical crustard that’s fine.

[MazHere]

NikkiShae wrote:

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For the last 2000+ years the sheep have been stating that "one day you'll see".

So have evolutionists become mindless sheep! I am not a mindless sheep because I can actually support my view that creationists are gaining better support for their views whilst TOE is becoming a huge mes of contradiction and instability., It appears evos here on this forum are demonstrating how confused they are.

None of you here have the ability to mount a supported debate. Not one of you have for the entire thread, it appears.

None of you will speak to any prediction on non coding dna because you do not have one, whilst I do. There is no need for junk if we were created. You lot sprooked there would be and suggested that 98% of the genome was functionless. These bright sparks, once again and in line with previous history, were wrong.

Hence junk dna proves evolution and I suppose 80% functional non coding dna also supports evolution does it?

http://www.nature.com/news/encode-the-human-e...

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15716009

Also 1% difference supports TOE as does the fact that dna comparisons are ridiculously misrepresentative and in actual fact there is an 80% difference in protien expression as well as all the vast differences that are ignored.

http://academic.brooklyn.cuny.edu/biology/fra...

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15716009

Assertions backed by research is the only way to form a bais for debate. Mindless opinion and empty words mean nothing, just in case you remain confused about what a debate or supporting ones view should look like.

I suggest that as an observer of the evolution/creation debate the creationists are actually being given their evidence by evolutionists on a golden plater!