Evolution vs. Creation

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anonymous

Franklin, PA

#60236 Nov 23, 2012
KittenKoder wrote:
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Yet .... creationists base everything on the unobserved.
Irony meter busted again.
Creationists base their theories on holy books. Those are man made objects, not natural world observations.

First you get evidence, then you base theories on what you find. Until I see a godlike individual going around, defying all physics, I'm not going to invent such a thing.

“Waytogo”

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#60237 Nov 23, 2012
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> The earth never came up on its own or through any big bang.
God created the earth.
Man can only shape the earth, but can never create one.
Who created God?
anonymous

Franklin, PA

#60238 Nov 23, 2012
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> The earth never came up on its own or through any big bang.
God created the earth.
Man can only shape the earth, but can never create one.
Liar!

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#60239 Nov 23, 2012
ChristineM wrote:
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Gravity, accretion and time
Next
Another wild guess. What brought about gravity and the others ?

“I Am No One Else”

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Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#60240 Nov 23, 2012
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> The earth never came up on its own or through any big bang.
God created the earth.
Man can only shape the earth, but can never create one.
Why would humans want to create another Earth, there are probably an infinite number of Earths out there.

“Waytogo”

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#60241 Nov 23, 2012
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Wild wild guess or projections.
What brought about the nature of the earth and how it works?
What brought about your cults god?

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#60242 Nov 23, 2012
KittenKoder wrote:
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Chemical reactions, gravity, and a bunch of elements from a dead star.
More guessings and projections...
What brought about the gravity, the elements of a dead star, etc,?

“Waytogo”

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#60243 Nov 23, 2012
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Another wild guess. What brought about gravity and the others ?
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You say your cults god did all things....Tell us then who or what created your god?

“I Am No One Else”

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Seattle

#60244 Nov 23, 2012
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Wild wild guess or projections.
What brought about the nature of the earth and how it works?
The universe formed, there were certain "laws" in the universe. The Earth formed as a result of these laws. Now we're on it. There, explained at a level even you can comprehend.

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#60245 Nov 23, 2012
anonymous wrote:
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You are a creator of lies and fear.
And yet you like every other living being will die.

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#60246 Nov 23, 2012
superwilly wrote:
<quoted text>Thank you for validating scripture!

Proverbs 21:3
"To do what is right and just is more acceptable to the LORD than sacrifice."
Proverbs 21:2-4
Scrutamini Scripturas
anonymous

Franklin, PA

#60247 Nov 23, 2012
MazHere wrote:
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Suck eggs. You are one of the boofheads have no clue about what is or isn't a creationist site.
"let's just say"..What now are you still unclear what is or isn't a creationist site even though you can open the links and look for yourself. Don't you know how to open links either?
Your ignorance supports the fact that you have no idea about recent advances in evolutionary theory. It is that simple. It is like I am trying to have a debate with a 12 year old.
Now you're just being a forum mud wrestler!

That sciencemag.org site looks fairly legitimate, but don't read into what is posted. Things like "negative epistasis" doesn't mean that natural mutation doesn't drive evolution. It just means what scientists have always said. A vast majority of mutations are harmful. I suppose that it also says that even with the best of efforts, some species run out of strategies to exploit and go extinct.

Researchers don't usually spew out political dogma. It's dangerous to their careers. I will concede that university types tend to have some liberal prejudices and most consider religions that fight against a natural order to be obstructionist.

That's what it comes down to. Science is about a natural order that is NEVER changed by divine intervention. The burden of proof is on you. Nobody has to prove a negative.
FREE SERVANT

Bellevue, WA

#60248 Nov 23, 2012
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>The name "Stella" is of Latin derivation, twit.
Then would you please tell us when you think the name "Stella" first came into the American Indian dialect?

“Waytogo”

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#60249 Nov 23, 2012
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> And yet you like every other living being will die.
And like all religions. Your is a man mad lies to control people and make money and gain power by the churches.

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#60250 Nov 23, 2012
ToManyLaws wrote:
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Who created God?
That is absurd, define God ?
An all-powerful and the all sufficient God can never be created.
He is the alpha and omega.
anonymous

Franklin, PA

#60251 Nov 23, 2012
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> And yet you like every other living being will die.
And you are trying to sell snake oil that you claim will cheat death. Face it. You're trying to cheat the dirt nap, one way or another.

Liar!

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#60252 Nov 23, 2012
anonymous wrote:
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Liar!
LIAR!!!
anonymous

Franklin, PA

#60253 Nov 23, 2012
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> That is absurd, define God ?
An all-powerful and the all sufficient God can never be created.
He is the alpha and omega.
Than we can assume that he is already complete in purpose. No further action required.

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#60254 Nov 23, 2012
KittenKoder wrote:
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Why would humans want to create another Earth, there are probably an infinite number of Earths out there.
Created by no one but God.
He created the universe.
anonymous

Franklin, PA

#60255 Nov 23, 2012
FREE SERVANT wrote:
<quoted text>Then would you please tell us when you think the name "Stella" first came into the American Indian dialect?
I'm sure that any language with vocabularies in the hundreds of thousands will coincidentally have one or two words of similar meaning and phonetics.

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