Evolution vs. Creation

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#60090 Nov 22, 2012
NikkiShae wrote:
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And your "truth" with god scores zero.
In your deluded opinion.

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#60091 Nov 22, 2012
NikkiShae wrote:
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I can say with certainty that he is no myth.
And that does not change any thing either.

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#60092 Nov 22, 2012
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text>FLUSH...
Fact. Flushing waste isn't biblical. Burying it is.

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#60093 Nov 22, 2012
MazHere wrote:
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This is what Charles said "People really can say all sort of things, whether true or false.
But we can not rule out the existence of spirits and demons.
They do exist."
Charles is being reasonable here. He suggests one has no evidence to rule them out. Then you call him a liar. He is not a liar. If there is no evidence to the contrary then one is no more delusional believing in a God than evos are for beliving in common ancestors that you have never seen.
By the way....Seeing that you want to talk philosophy instead of science, here is some for you......
Importantly, this has a direct bearing on the question of whether humans and other living creatures have souls. As Kant pointed out over 200 years ago, everything we experience – including all the colors, sensations and objects we perceive – are nothing but representations in our mind. Space and time are simply the mind's tools for putting it all together. Now, to the amusement of idealists, scientists are beginning dimly to recognize that those rules make existence itself possible. Indeed, the experiments above suggest that objects only exist with real properties if they are observed. The results not only defy our classical intuition, but suggest that a part of the mind – the soul – is immortal and exists outside of space and time.
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/biocentri...
You would rather think of yourself as a souless ape. Congratulations!
Intelligent.

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#60094 Nov 22, 2012
MazHere wrote:
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So I gather that seeing as no evolutionist here can defend their theory I suggest that the conclusion to the deabte is that evolutionsists really have no clue.
They can talk alot, make big claims and point to mountains of outdated speculative rubbish. What they can't do is defend thier stance in the evolution vs creation debate with any more than 'they said so' and a gutful of philosophical rhetoric. EVOLUTIONISTS...YOU LOOSE!
Maz, I know you love to recycle old debunked creationist arguments. So you are rather low on the anyone's list of people to reply to.

You have never had a successful argument against evolution and worse yet you have never posted any scientific evidence for creationism. Of course you can hardly be blamed for the latter, there is no scientific evidence for creationism.

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#60095 Nov 22, 2012
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text>Most dreams do come true.
This is an evidence no one can deny.
Most? Thats a stretch. Some do because they represent outcomes based on real life experience or consuming will.

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#60096 Nov 22, 2012
MazHere wrote:
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So I gather that seeing as no evolutionist here can defend their theory I suggest that the conclusion to the deabte is that evolutionsists really have no clue.
They can talk alot, make big claims and point to mountains of outdated speculative rubbish. What they can't do is defend thier stance in the evolution vs creation debate with any more than 'they said so' and a gutful of philosophical rhetoric. EVOLUTIONISTS...YOU LOOSE!
Yes, nothing to show for over 150 years, but instead gossips, accusations and backbiting, to mention a few.

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#60097 Nov 22, 2012
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text>In your deluded opinion.
All I have to say is score board. 2000+ years trumped by about 200.

“Darwin was right..of course.”

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#60098 Nov 22, 2012
MazHere wrote:
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This is what Charles said "People really can say all sort of things, whether true or false.
But we can not rule out the existence of spirits and demons.
They do exist."
Charles is being reasonable here. He suggests one has no evidence to rule them out. Then you call him a liar. He is not a liar. If there is no evidence to the contrary then one is no more delusional believing in a God than evos are for beliving in common ancestors that you have never seen.
By the way....Seeing that you want to talk philosophy instead of science, here is some for you......
Importantly, this has a direct bearing on the question of whether humans and other living creatures have souls. As Kant pointed out over 200 years ago, everything we experience – including all the colors, sensations and objects we perceive – are nothing but representations in our mind. Space and time are simply the mind's tools for putting it all together. Now, to the amusement of idealists, scientists are beginning dimly to recognize that those rules make existence itself possible. Indeed, the experiments above suggest that objects only exist with real properties if they are observed. The results not only defy our classical intuition, but suggest that a part of the mind – the soul – is immortal and exists outside of space and time.
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/biocentri...
You would rather think of yourself as a souless ape. Congratulations!
Sounds like some quantum theory to me...does a tree falling in the forest make a sound if no one is there to hear it? Is quantum entanglement real, and how does it work exactly

Who says apes have no soul?

Can you define and prove the existence of souls? Where do they reside in my body? Who first made up this soul thing...was it Paul. Could be Paul I guess...he made up 'Original Sin' after all.

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#60099 Nov 22, 2012
NikkiShae wrote:
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Fact never brings about faith, nor does faith bring about fact. Fact exist in complete disregard of faith.
Keep searching, until the answers are gotten. This is an act of faith.
Exploration, research, quest, etc, are all acts of faith.

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

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#60100 Nov 22, 2012
FREE SERVANT wrote:
My grandmothers name was Stella which is a very old American Indian word that means star and it has origins in northern Italy. Nimrod sent out colonizing fragments that must have reached here,because it is on record that he reached Italy.
The name "Stella" is of Latin derivation, twit.

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#60101 Nov 22, 2012
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text>Intelligent.
Ok so the Easter bunny, Santas' elves nor Fairies can be proven to not exist.

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#60102 Nov 22, 2012
NikkiShae wrote:
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Fact. Flushing waste isn't biblical. Burying it is.
Likewise.

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#60104 Nov 22, 2012
NikkiShae wrote:
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Most? Thats a stretch. Some do because they represent outcomes based on real life experience or consuming will.
In summary, dreams do come true. Period.

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#60105 Nov 22, 2012
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text>Keep searching, until the answers are gotten. This is an act of faith.
Exploration, research, quest, etc, are all acts of faith.
Really? You seem to disregard this...

"There is another form of temptation, even more fraught with danger. This is the disease of curiosity. It is this which drives us to try and discover the secrets of nature, those secrets which are beyond our understanding, which can avail us nothing and which man should not wish to learn."

St. Augustine (354 - 430)

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#60106 Nov 22, 2012
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Intelligent.
Yes Gods creation is intelligent...But no molecules to man, my friend....

We may also be special, despite the Copernican principle.....

Mathematicians’ theory means Earth may be the center of the universe

http://wallacegsmith.wordpress.com/2010/10/22...

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#60107 Nov 22, 2012
NikkiShae wrote:
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All I have to say is score board. 2000+ years trumped by about 200.
Oh, you mean your projections or your wild guesses?

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#60108 Nov 22, 2012
thewordofme wrote:
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Sounds like some quantum theory to me...does a tree falling in the forest make a sound if no one is there to hear it? Is quantum entanglement real, and how does it work exactly
Who says apes have no soul?
Can you define and prove the existence of souls? Where do they reside in my body? Who first made up this soul thing...was it Paul. Could be Paul I guess...he made up 'Original Sin' after all.
As I said previously you lot are hiding behind philosophy and trying to score fruitless points. The point is there is no evidence to suggest there is no God, so stop chasing your tail into philosophical conundrums and walkes doesn the garden path of evasion.

What's up?????????? Is science too hard for you evolutionists to get your head around?

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#60109 Nov 22, 2012
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text>In summary, dreams do come true. Period.
Lol

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#60110 Nov 22, 2012
MazHere wrote:
<quoted text>Yes Gods creation is intelligent...But no molecules to man, my friend....

We may also be special, despite the Copernican principle.....

MathematiciansÂ’ theory means Earth may be the center of the universe

http://wallacegsmith.wordpress.com/2010/10/22...
Intelligent to who? The judge and jury?

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