Evolution vs. Creation

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High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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Nov 21, 2012
 
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You are a FREAKSHOW in this forum. I am the most educated man here. You know nothing of nothing....you fill space on a screen.........FREAKSHOW
If you need to go to the bathroom, raise your hand and you'll be excused.

Stop soiling yourself and stinking up the thread.

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Nov 21, 2012
 
Dogen wrote:
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John 8:44
There is no correlation what so ever.
This is just a false accusation, from the scriptures.

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So God, in Its omnibenevolence, allowed evil to flourish.
All evil is now good because god can only be good. And all of creation is from god and, therefore, is good. Even Lucifer in all his evil.
Therefore, all sinners are good in their sins as god already knows their sins and is good in his divine plan.
It's only your judgement, as if you were representative of god, that you can declare evil as not evil.
So who is more deserving of hell? You, who claims to speak for god, or a mass murderer who was created to do evil with god's knowledge?
You really don't want to understand anything, do you?
When God created living beings, he gave them that freewill or thoughts to do whatever they like under his guidiance.
That was the reason why Lucifer rebelled and Adam and Eve both sinned.

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And yet, god allows that to happen.
In order to be all good, these things that you point out as anti-god, has to be good according to the divine plan of god.
You need to resolve the "Problem with Evil" with your interpretation of the Bible.
This should give you a start:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Problem_of_evil
From my understanding, God gave us that freedom of thoughts and desires.
He also wanted us to seek and desire him. So, those that holds on to him, he empowers and strengthens them.
While those that seek him, they also hear from him.
So, those that do not involve in the above, is really on their own.

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And angry. Like he was with the moneychangers in the temple.
And condescending at the point of contempt according to John when talking about Apostle Thomas. This speak more about John's relationship with Thomas than Jesus.
After all, the Gospel of Thomas was actively destroyed by the early Christian church as it didn't fit with what the early Christian leaders could use in their quest for power. And yet, they couldn't destroy every trace of that gospel.
This is a judgement from the wrong angle.
Jesus did that because they were turning the synagogue into a market place of gambling, etc.
For Thomas, no one is perfect, even you.

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This is wrong. Hebrew is not the oldest language. Egyptian is 2,000 years older than Hebrew and even it is not the oldest language.
You love to spread lies that you make up with the help of your master.
For "written", I think Sumerian has it - but for spoken? I doubt anyone knows. Certainly not Hebrew, though.

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Nov 21, 2012
 
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Ahh, the argument from uncertainty. You weren't there to see it, so how can you know the truth?
Do you apply the same standard to your Biblical accounts?
You assume the Bible is pure because it's the word of god because it says so.
I'm guessing that the caretakers of the bible had a vested monetary/power interest means nothing to you.
Just like the tobacco industry "scientific" findings that smoking is good for you would be completely acceptable.
You are not there either so, you are not in that position or capacity to judge on what happened before your time.

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Wrong Maz, the Christians believe that they have refuted the claims, but they do so by changing the translation. The Hebrews had a word for a sphere or a ball, they even used it in the Bible. Whenever the Earth was described they used the word for a flat circle. That indicates they thought the world was flat, not round. There are countless other errors too. For example there are failed prophecies, prophecies that were "fulfilled" after the fact (Christ's virgin birth for example, and that was due to a mistake in translation by the Greek writers of the New Testament), self contradiction. If the Bible was a "perfect" book it would have so many errors in it, whether they seem to be errors or if they are real.
The Bible is just a bunch of fairy tales told by goat herders. There are no great lessons there, the morality is horrendous, and it is rife with errors.
And wasn't the Messiah's name supposed to be Manny, and not Jesús?

Or something like that?

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Science supports SOME scripture, but not much. Mostly today's science is disproving the Bible...you don't know it yet, but your Christian foundations are being removed as we speak.
Science rules my man, not religion, especially religion that is dead wrong. You're not keeping up...
Science wins.

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You originally said: "One thing we must learn from the bible, is that, we should not attach much importance one particular person."
And I replied "Like Jesus?"
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I did not ask if Jesus rebelled.
My question was whether "we should not attach too much importance to one particular person" in the bible like Jesus.
Much importance is attached to his deeds, humility, faith, sacrifice, holiness and what have you. No one has ever achieved this feat, except Jesus Christ.

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Umm, yeah. no.
Many Christians don't even know the history of the bible. And you certainly haven't demonstrated education in any discipline other than being Parsons in Orwell's 1984.
Before and after the death or demise of Sir Isaac Newton, the inventor and scientist, was he a christian, yes or no?

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thewordofme wrote:
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Science supports SOME scripture, but not much. Mostly today's science is disproving the Bible...you don't know it yet, but your Christian foundations are being removed as we speak.
Science rules my man, not religion, especially religion that is dead wrong. You're not keeping up...
That is your view or position. To your reality, you are wrong and wrong.

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Nov 21, 2012
 
Typo:
I meant, to reality, you are wrong and not to your reality, you are wrong...

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Nov 21, 2012
 
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text>That is your view or position. To your reality, you are wrong and wrong.
Hard to accept a dose of reality?

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Charles Idemi wrote:
Typo:
I meant, to reality, you are wrong and not to your reality, you are wrong...
I love it when you correct your so called "typos." Your revisions still don't make any sense. I don't even know why you do it.

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Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text>Before and after the death or demise of Sir Isaac Newton, the inventor and scientist, was he a christian, yes or no?
He was a heretic. He saw the truth that was setting him free from the imaginary cure to an imaginary disease.

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Hard to accept a dose of reality?
When you don't have one.

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timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>I love it when you correct your so called "typos." Your revisions still don't make any sense. I don't even know why you do it.
Back off!!!

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He was a heretic. He saw the truth that was setting him free from the imaginary cure to an imaginary disease.
Liar. That qualities is not far from you.

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Nov 22, 2012
 
FREE SERVANT wrote:
<quoted text>THINK! Is Assyria centered in Mesopotania and isn't the biblical land of Shinar in a plain in Mesopotania? Didn't the Assyrian empire hold the Canaanites captive for 100 years in the Caucasus mountains?
Language predates that

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