Evolution vs. Creation

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#59438 Nov 17, 2012
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Carbon dating and others, have proved the other wise- though, it( carbon dating, forensic study, etc) is/ are still a man made thing.
Oh, so now you want to invoke science since it might back up your claim.

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#59440 Nov 17, 2012
greymouser wrote:
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Did not God know what his own creation would do?
Or did god purposefully introduce such an evil into the world?
If God knew for sure what choices his creation would make, then why would he allow them to be tempted? THINK!
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#59441 Nov 17, 2012
The word IF says a lot in the BIble..

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Everett, WA

#59442 Nov 17, 2012
FREE SERVANT wrote:
<quoted text>If God knew for sure what choices his creation would make, then why would he allow them to be tempted? THINK!
So you are saying that your God is not omniscient or omnipotent. Well, I guess that is a start.
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#59443 Nov 17, 2012
Subduction Zone wrote:
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So you are saying that your God is not omniscient or omnipotent. Well, I guess that is a start.
I believe he knows what is at the end of a road if you take it, but he gives you the choices as to which one you will.
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Pittsburgh, PA

#59444 Nov 17, 2012
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Well this is very intelligent and absolute comparing
creation accepted evolution as its driver

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Everett, WA

#59445 Nov 17, 2012
FREE SERVANT wrote:
<quoted text>I believe he knows what is at the end of a road if you take it, but he gives you the choices as to which one you will.
Of course the debate here is not whether your god exists or not, it is about how life got to its present form on the Earth.

It seems you believe the Genesis myths. You should know that Adam and Eve, Noah's Ark, and the Tower of Babel are only bedtime stories. Their falseness does not mean that your god does not exist.
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Bellevue, WA

#59446 Nov 17, 2012
Everything we do in life is about choices. Jesus said for us to pray to not be lead into temptation, but to ask our father in heaven to deliver us from evil. We choose every day who we will serve.

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#59447 Nov 17, 2012
Kong_ wrote:
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More recently than that...unfortunately.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/11/15/us-...
I'd seen that. I'll be interested to see if anything comes of it.

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#59448 Nov 17, 2012
greymouser wrote:
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So what is there to do in heaven for eternity?
Tunnel.

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#59449 Nov 17, 2012
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Faith, is the basis of all religions. Some people do abuse that( it).
But that does not conclude that, faith is un-real.
Oh, faith is real. No argument there.

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#59450 Nov 17, 2012
greymouser wrote:
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Did not God know what his own creation would do?
Or did god purposefully introduce such an evil into the world?
This same question can be likened to humans.
God created perfect creations, but no one knows what went wrong.

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#59452 Nov 17, 2012
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> God created Lucifer. That Lucifer renamed him self, satan, because he was and is still an opposer of God.
Some of our kids, sisters, brothers, uncles, nieces, nephews, aunts, friends, etc, do that.
Pretty crappy job on God's part, then, wouldn't you say?
anonymous

Franklin, PA

#59453 Nov 17, 2012
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>Pretty crappy job on God's part, then, wouldn't you say?
He's just making things up as he goes along.

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and still got most of it left

#59454 Nov 17, 2012
Dogen wrote:
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I have heard some of this before.
Do you have any sources?
I got involved in this as a student the 90s but much is on the internet now, For the heavy stuff you need to filter out the incredulous religious attempts at discreditation and head to the university history databases.

A search for “Tiberius Julius Abdes Pantera of Sidon” is a great start, you can still see his grave in Germany. The Tanack, Jewish bible also alludes to Pantera as the father of Jesus.

The Fourth Philosophy and Judas the Gillian (Also known as Judas of the Sicari) is well documented now. This is the same Judas in my post

Most of the surviving roman archives, tax records and military documents are catalogued now.

There are also some books that are of interest
Pantera by Sara Reinke
James, the brother of Christ by Robert Eisenman
The Mythmaker by Hyam Maccobys
Judas the Galilean: the flesh and blood Jesus by Danial Underbank
I've also seen extracts from a book now published I believe by Paul Cresswell entitled Jesus the Terrorist

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#59455 Nov 17, 2012
anonymous wrote:
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He's just making things up as he goes along.
This things you said i am making up, are all reality.

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#59456 Nov 17, 2012
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>Oh, faith is real. No argument there.
So is Ebola.
Your clouded imagination and opinion.

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#59457 Nov 17, 2012
Life wrote:
How can you say something is going wrong?
Ofcourse, things are not right. Wars here and there, killings, suicide bombings, corruptions, terrorisms and the likes, have eaten deep into the system.
It is only God that can turn the tides of our sins and wrong doings.

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#59458 Nov 17, 2012
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>Pretty crappy job on God's part, then, wouldn't you say?
No. When we sinned in the garden of Eden, the spirit of God left us, through Adam and Eve or the first human presence. By that, men began to know between good and bad, this is the reason why problem still persist.
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#59459 Nov 17, 2012
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Ofcourse, things are not right. Wars here and there, killings, suicide bombings, corruptions, terrorisms and the likes, have eaten deep into the system.
It is only God that can turn the tides of our sins and wrong doings.
That is so right my brother! God bless you.

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