Evolution vs. Creation

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High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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Nov 14, 2012
 
Drew Smith wrote:
What language did the Angles and the Saxons speak on the boats on their way to England?
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So if they spoke Old English on the boats *before* they first set foot in England, then that means that English did not originate in England.
Thank you for finally admitting that English did not originate in England.
Of course English was made by the English and is totally different from german as to be impossible.

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Nov 14, 2012
 
So if they spoke Old English on the boats *before* they first set foot in England, then that means that English did not originate in England.
Thank you for finally admitting that English did not originate in England.
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No, the Germans language OS totally seperate from English
We're not talking about modern English and modern German. We're talking about *Old English*(aka Anglo-Saxon).
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English has Celtic,Viking,Roman and norse, with a little angol in the south
Viking and Roman aren't languages. Certainly, Old English was influenced by Old Norse, as well as by Latin. But Old English existed before it was influenced by Old Norse.

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#58972
Nov 14, 2012
 
straa wrote:
Of course English was made by the English
The English language was created by the Angles and the Saxons, before there were people known as "English".

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Nov 14, 2012
 
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> But English is original to England...
I cannot believe that you are still getting people to fight with you over this! You hit the trolling mother load!

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Nov 14, 2012
 
CrimeaRiver wrote:
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Surely English started in England. An amalgam of various linguistic influences but fundamentally built around the same base language of old English.
But if you're referring to its West Germanic origins then you are half correct. The origins are west germanic but the English language itself, was at the time, exclusive to Engalnd. Throw in a bit of Latin, touch of Norse and a lot of French after 1066 and you have what we now call English.
The fact that Americans butcher the Language a little bit should serve as a reminder that American English is a further corruption/evolution of the language. 1000 years from now there may be arguments that American English is somehow distinct from English English.
But English as a language DID start in England, it was never spoken anywhere else at the time of its inception.
Now compare that to the claims Charles Idemi tries to make concerning language today. Everything is black/white to him, no shades of grey.

France speaks French, England speaks English, Italy speaks Italian, Spain speaks Spanish. It's all pure and there's no crossovers whatsoever.

It's indicative of the compartmentalized thinking an authoritarian follower.

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Nov 14, 2012
 
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Now compare that to the claims Charles Idemi tries to make concerning language today. Everything is black/white to him, no shades of grey.
France speaks French, England speaks English, Italy speaks Italian, Spain speaks Spanish. It's all pure and there's no crossovers whatsoever.
It's indicative of the compartmentalized thinking an authoritarian follower.
Yup, it's exactly why he doesn't understand the nature of biological evolution. He can't envision the idea that human biological history blends seamlessly into the history of our pre-human ancestors (no sharp dividing line between human and non-human).

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Nov 14, 2012
 
Doctor Who Two wrote:
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1 + 1 = 2 because humans have defined it to be so.
If you are talking about the word or symbol of one and two. The math of the statement man didn't defined God did.
I'm having trouble trying to understand what you are saying here. I'm not picking up on a point where there's a missing word or two or a missing comma or period that I can fill in. Could you rephrase your idea?

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Nov 14, 2012
 
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> The question he should have asked is, where does English language started or originated?
That question, settles every other questions.
That only opens up a very problematic question for you.

Would you say that the language has evolved into it's current day form?

If not, I be delighted for you to show me someone who speak the original English language as it was when it started.

And if language can evolve, what else can?

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Nov 14, 2012
 
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> How?
Can you control nature?
Nature goes on without any interference, meteorologist studies it, but not too accurately. They may forecast right and some times, wrong.
This alone lives us to the very question, " God ".
And we can study nature and prepare for its worst effects.

You can build a roof to keep the rain from getting you wet instead of hiding in a cave.

You can put a lightning rod on that roof to direct the electricity away to prevent your roof from catching fire.

We can discover a hurricane and a fair chance of its likely path so that those in the danger zone can prepare.

What does your religion offer for such things? Pray harder?

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Nov 14, 2012
 
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Are you paid to talk for others? Lol.
Mr. Mouthpiece. Lol.
And you failed to answer the questions I posed even when someone else reposted them asking you to answer.

Here they are again for a third time:

Whoa. wait a sec here...
Was not man created in the image of God?
Certainly not the physical form (If god has a physical form, He'd have to be Female. Men can not give birth to life. Unless he/she is transgender at will. How confusing is that?)
Was man created with the thinking of God? Doubtful there. We're not omniscient. And the God of the bible sounds insane but has a plan?
What else is there than the spirit? Which some would call the soul?
No measurable physical evidence except by assertion.

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Nov 14, 2012
 
FREE SERVANT wrote:
Many Creationist believe in divine design, and this was what many of the framers of the Constitution of the US believed as well.
I don't suppose the Theory of Evolution not being published until 1869 had anything to do with what the framers of the Constitution believe, does it?

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Nov 14, 2012
 
100,000-year-old art kit found in South Africa

Researchers investigating Blombos Cave in Cape Town, South Africa uncovered the oldest known evidence of painting by early humans. Archaeologists discovered two "kits," for mixing and forming ocher — a reddish pigment believed to be used as a dye. The find pushes back the date by which humans were practicing complex art approximately 40,000 years, all the way back to 100,000 years ago.

Ancient settlement upends our perception of human evolution

Tools discovered during an excavation in the United Arab Emirates were found to date back at least 100,000 years, indicating that our ancestors may have left Africa as early as 125,000 years ago. Genetic evidence has long suggested that modern humans did not leave Africa until about 60,000 years ago, but these tools appear to be the work of our ancestors and not other hominids like Neanderthals. That being said, our understanding of how and when humans really evolved continues to take shape…
http://io9.com/5871725/biggest-scientific-bre...

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Nov 14, 2012
 
KittenKoder wrote:
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Slang is what made all the modern languages, it's what made all the languages. Sometimes you say suck stupid things you appear as uneducated as a street rat.
What is slang today becomes part of the language tomorrow, and eventually the new version or form of that language. The areas which adopt different slang eventually formulate different languages, this is why, the real reason, there is now British and American English. In British English, calling someone a bloody twat is the same thing as calling someone a f-ing b-ch in American English. The words are completely different but the meaning was filled by something the locals preferred for each derivation.
It's not slang that destroys language, it's religitards that refuse to keep words defined as one thing after they have been canonized that can destroy a language.
In one sentence, frustration.
What is your headache with Christians?
Majority of you here came from a Christian home.

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Nov 14, 2012
 
Drew Smith wrote:
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Yup, it's exactly why he doesn't understand the nature of biological evolution. He can't envision the idea that human biological history blends seamlessly into the history of our pre-human ancestors (no sharp dividing line between human and non-human).
And if you noticed, he redirected the topic to language instead of trying to defend his religion. In that he was quite successful.

The focus has been diverted from problematic questions about his religion and the evo/crevo debate.

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Nov 14, 2012
 
Kong_ wrote:
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English, like any other modern language, is dynamic -- not static. English "EVOLVES" (hows THAT for bringing this thread back on track?).
Example: I was taught as a child that "aint" was not a word. But it is now in American dictionaries.
Alright Kong, how true is it, i got it on air that about 22 states in the US, are trying to break up from the US, is it true?

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Nov 14, 2012
 
straa wrote:
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English is of course native to England, it was made there and never spoken anywhere else, through colonising a third of the planet, the British spread their language all round the world, and then created new countries like usa, Canada, Australia, new Zealand, which obviously also spoke English. The only place that hadn't been anglosized was Europe, but America, through popular modern culture, movies, music, spread the English language'with a few tweaks' to European nations also
Intelligent. Thumbs up!

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100,000-year-old art kit found in South Africa
Researchers investigating Blombos Cave in Cape Town, South Africa uncovered the oldest known evidence of painting by early humans. Archaeologists discovered two "kits," for mixing and forming ocher — a reddish pigment believed to be used as a dye. The find pushes back the date by which humans were practicing complex art approximately 40,000 years, all the way back to 100,000 years ago.
Ancient settlement upends our perception of human evolution
Tools discovered during an excavation in the United Arab Emirates were found to date back at least 100,000 years, indicating that our ancestors may have left Africa as early as 125,000 years ago. Genetic evidence has long suggested that modern humans did not leave Africa until about 60,000 years ago, but these tools appear to be the work of our ancestors and not other hominids like Neanderthals. That being said, our understanding of how and when humans really evolved continues to take shape…
http://io9.com/5871725/biggest-scientific-bre...
"Ancient settlement upends our perception of human evolution"

Umm, how does this discovery support the claim there?

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Nov 14, 2012
 
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>A pidgin language isn't necessarily a corruption of anything, it is a language used to communicate between two cultures that do not share a language. Slang consists of informal words/expressions within one language.
Ofcourse, in my own understanding it is. For example, you wanted to say, " where are you going ". In our pidgin you say, " where you dey go".

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Nov 14, 2012
 
Drew Smith wrote:
Which means that it is their *country of origin*(in this case, England) that determines whether or not they are English, and not the language they speak. Thank you for admitting that.
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Which means that it is their *country of origin*(in this case, England) that determines whether or not they are English, and not the language they speak. Thank you for admitting that.
What ever!
But English is native to England, before any other nation.

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Nov 14, 2012
 
greymouser wrote:
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"Ancient settlement upends our perception of human evolution"
Umm, how does this discovery support the claim there?
[sigh] Science Journalist...what are you going to do with them??:-)

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