Evolution vs. Creation

Evolution vs. Creation

There are 222225 comments on the Best of New Orleans story from Jan 6, 2011, titled Evolution vs. Creation. In it, Best of New Orleans reports that:

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#51174 Oct 8, 2012
President Starky wrote:
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I can understand why you would want to distance yourself from Obama.
Many of his followers learned after the debate with Romney exactly why we have referred to them as idiots for the last four years.
That must be a hard pill to swallow.
"Stuff's gettin better"
2012
Why do you hate kittens?

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#51175 Oct 8, 2012
MAAT wrote:
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You must mean that hey can never be answered because they are framed wrong. If the question starts out a garbled mess, it takes but 5 minutes to pose it, but would take us at least 5 hours to set the concepts right and explain what it is about.
That is apart from your understanding and willingness to learn.
The thread is called creation v. evolution, and this in my understanding mean that we are stil waiting for the comprehensive, convincing and thus detailed explanation as to how this process exactly took place. Still waiting.
We discussed ID and it's originator, and that the very theory leaves room for evolution. Frankly is all about evolution, but not aware then of RNA and ERV's.
You are going about things as some student that can't fix a math-problem and therefore throws out his books and declares it nonsense.
Yep that anger issue again. ;)
Yawn!
A math problem should ultimately have an answer.
Evolution has none.
A religion based on belief without substance.

If you see anger, it is either your own projection or your own paranoia.

““You must not lose faith ”

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#51176 Oct 8, 2012
President Starky wrote:
<quoted text>
I can understand why you would want to distance yourself from Obama.
Many of his followers learned after the debate with Romney exactly why we have referred to them as idiots for the last four years.
That must be a hard pill to swallow.
"Stuff's gettin better"
2012
Huh because Romney claim schooling and healthcare are not affordable unless the US borrows from the Chinese, and therefore get's us deeper in depth.
I can so relate to Obama looking at the floor and shaking his head.
He was of course supposed to have decked the guy.
Well maybe in his minds-eye he was.;)
Most plans were rebup ideas in the first place, but now we get scorched earth rethorics, not heard since Vietnam, just to get a black president out.
Madness one and all.
Johny

Seabrook, TX

#51177 Oct 8, 2012
Drew Smith wrote:
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What inference is that?
The statement of the second law start off with a negative - e.g. It is impossible for a cyclically operating device to convert thermal energy to mechanical energy by use of one thermal reservoir. Although we can never prove the statements absolutely, since it has always been shown to be true, we can infer the veracity of the statement. The similar inference can be made from Dembski's exploratory filter.

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#51178 Oct 8, 2012
Subduction Zone wrote:
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Why would I need to distance myself from Obama? You already implied that you are voting for him. You seem to have the mistaken idea that all evolutionists are liberal atheists. You would of course be wrong, but then that should not come as a surprise to you.
LOL

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#51179 Oct 8, 2012
MAAT wrote:
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Huh because Romney claim schooling and healthcare are not affordable unless the US borrows from the Chinese, and therefore get's us deeper in depth.
I can so relate to Obama looking at the floor and shaking his head.
He was of course supposed to have decked the guy.
Well maybe in his minds-eye he was.;)
Most plans were rebup ideas in the first place, but now we get scorched earth rethorics, not heard since Vietnam, just to get a black president out.
Madness one and all.
Obama wasn't looking at the floor during the debate.
He was looking at his hands.
Romney had just handed him his own ass.

"Stuff's gettin better"
2012
MIDutch

Waterford, MI

#51180 Oct 8, 2012
President Starky wrote:
Yawn!
Grey trolls need to register.
LYING "fundaMENTALshit xristian creotards" need to be institutionalized.

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#51181 Oct 8, 2012
Johny wrote:
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The statement of the second law start off with a negative - e.g. It is impossible for a cyclically operating device to convert thermal energy to mechanical energy by use of one thermal reservoir. Although we can never prove the statements absolutely, since it has always been shown to be true, we can infer the veracity of the statement. The similar inference can be made from Dembski's exploratory filter.
Sir.
I don't know what you're talking about but it sounds way more logical than the religion of evolution.

:)
MIDutch

Waterford, MI

#51182 Oct 8, 2012
President Starky wrote:
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Yawn!
A math problem should ultimately have an answer.
Evolution has none.
A religion based on belief without substance.
You just go ahead and keep on believing that.

SCIENCE, biology, the Theory of Evolution and the rest of the world will keep on progressing nicely without you.

BTW you DO know why you "fundaMENTALshit xristian creotards" get laughed at, don't you?

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#51183 Oct 8, 2012
President Starky wrote:
<quoted text>WOW!
You keen insight has just totally convinced me and I can now embrace the religion of evolution.
(End sarcasm)
But seriously, the questions are not outdated as they have never been answered and to be honest, they will never be answered by the religion of evolution.
"Stuff's gettin better"
2012
If you were not functionally illiterate, you would have understood by now that the premisse of evolution as religion is based upon quoting out of context.
That thus any self-respecting person would not use the term anymore, after having learned the error of his purposely misled ways.
The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#51184 Oct 8, 2012
President Starky wrote:
<quoted text>
Yawn!
A math problem should ultimately have an answer.
Evolution has none.
A religion based on belief without substance.
If you see anger, it is either your own projection or your own paranoia.
Keep going Starky! Just ignore it a little longer and maybe it'll all go away!! Okay so that hasn't worked for you fundies for the past 150 years but I'm sure it will this time!!!
The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#51185 Oct 8, 2012
President Starky wrote:
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Sir.
I don't know what you're talking about but it sounds way more logical than the religion of evolution.
:)
Don't worry, neither does he. Which is why he's just told you there is no life on Earth. However I notice that you took notice of him despite the fact he was not registered. I applaud you for maintaining your hypocrisy and belief in creationist principles of dishonesty!
The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#51186 Oct 8, 2012
MAAT wrote:
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If you were not functionally illiterate, you would have understood by now that the premisse of evolution as religion is based upon quoting out of context.
That thus any self-respecting person would not use the term anymore, after having learned the error of his purposely misled ways.
Ah, but fundies have no shame.
bohart

White Pine, TN

#51187 Oct 8, 2012
President Starky wrote:
*Your*
Because "You evolved into your"
Hahahaha!
Dear POTUS Starky; I have enjoyed your jousting with the adherents of the religion of evolution.Good job.

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#51188 Oct 8, 2012
MAAT wrote:
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If you were not functionally illiterate, you would have understood by now that the premisse of evolution as religion is based upon quoting out of context.
That thus any self-respecting person would not use the term anymore, after having learned the error of his purposely misled ways.
If you were not cerebrally damaged you'd know the definition of religion.
More importantly you'd recognize that you are hardly qualified to even use the term "self respect"

Evolution= religion.

"Stuff's gettin better"
2012

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mutilate. Point down range.

#51189 Oct 8, 2012
President Starky wrote:
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I'd say you started your drinking early and never stopped.
:)
"Stuff's gettin better"
2012
There is an intelligent response.

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mutilate. Point down range.

#51190 Oct 8, 2012
Subduction Zone wrote:
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Why would I need to distance myself from Obama? You already implied that you are voting for him. You seem to have the mistaken idea that all evolutionists are liberal atheists. You would of course be wrong, but then that should not come as a surprise to you.
This guy is just a troll.
MIDutch

Waterford, MI

#51191 Oct 8, 2012
President Starky wrote:
<quoted text>Evolution= religion.
This would be a LIE!

Why do you "fundie xristian creotards" LIE so much?

Isn't LYING a sin in your religion?

I know I read a commandment about it somewhere.

Say "hi" to ha-Satan for us when you get to Hell.

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#51192 Oct 8, 2012
bohart wrote:
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Dear POTUS Starky; I have enjoyed your jousting with the adherents of the religion of evolution.Good job.
Thanks.
As President, its not my job to make the rules, its my job to figure out how to break them.

Thank you for your continued support and let me say that "Stuff's gettin better everyday"

2012
Johny

Seabrook, TX

#51193 Oct 8, 2012
The Dude wrote:
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Yes. Dembski is an idiot. He's a mathematician, not a scientist, and not a very good one. Thermodynamics doesn't work the way creationists think it does otherwise you would not be alive to talk about it (for some reason they love to make up BS why evolution is wrong and inadvertently destroy all life on Earth, or sometimes the entire universe) and as for ID? It is so far undemonstrated.
Science has everything to do with math and statistics. Have you every heard of statistical thermodynamics. Math underpins all of science. Creationists understand that "machines" created by man, God or anyone else does not pose a problem for thermodynamics. The problem arises when you say the machines are created naturally! The Second Law of Thermodynamics defines what that "naturally" would be. We see that nature has a definite direction that does not lead to more complexity outside the statistically probable - e.g. snow flakes don't count for they are expected when temperatures are low enough. There have been a number of thought experiments that would suggest that it could be demonstrated!

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