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#103 Dec 28, 2012
Chilli J wrote:
Indictable?
Does it make us proud to be Americans to know that Bush and Cheney can't travel outside the U. S., due to the very possibility that some countries might try to detain them on war criminal charges?
Bush-Cheney - The Hague - 2016?
Huh?

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/07...

Where do you guys come up with this stuff?

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#104 Dec 28, 2012
Go Blue Forever wrote:
<quoted text>Let's just see....GW left a deficit total of $10.6 trillion, plus two unfunded wars.....Expert's have placed a total cost of both wars at, a bit above $4 trillion, plus aftercare for the military's injured...Seem's to me that totals $14.6 trillion, out of a current $16 trillion....Just does'nt sound like President Obama's spent much at all....and we are currently in economic recovery, too......
Do you know the difference between deficit and debt? I'm guessing not.

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#105 Dec 28, 2012
65007noogard wrote:
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Do you know the difference between deficit and debt? I'm guessing not.
***milwaukee69 waving hand furiously, waving - jumping up and down***

"Ooooo!!! Ooooo!!! I do!!! I do!!! Call on me!!! Call on me!!!"

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#106 Dec 28, 2012
The deficit is the difference between the money Government takes in, called receipts, and what the Government spends, called outlays, each year. Receipts include the money the Government takes in from income, excise and social insurance taxes as well as fees and other income. Outlays include all Federal spending including social security and Medicare benefits along with all other spending ranging from medical research to interest payments on the debt. When there is a deficit, Treasury must borrow the money needed for the government to pay its bills.

We borrow the money by selling Treasury securities like T-bills, notes, Treasury Inflation-Protected securities and savings bonds to the public. Additionally, the Government Trust Funds are required by law to invest accumulated surpluses in Treasury securities. The Treasury securities issued to the public and to the Government Trust Funds (intragovernmental holdings) then become part of the total debt.

One way to think about the debt is as accumulated deficits.

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#108 Dec 28, 2012
65007noogard wrote:
<quoted text>
Huh?
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/07...
Where do you guys come up with this stuff?
It was in the news. There are multiple articles. You could have googled and found them, like I did, when you located the link that you posted. Let me know if you need help locating the others, bud!

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/02/05/us-...
Force Majeure

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#109 Dec 28, 2012
Chilli J wrote:
Indictable?
Does it make us proud to be Americans to know that Bush and Cheney can't travel outside the U. S., due to the very possibility that some countries might try to detain them on war criminal charges?
Bush-Cheney - The Hague - 2016?
It's not really the question of whether or not Americans are "un"proud of that fact. What is upsetting is that so many Americans have the un-Democratic opinion that Bush and Cheney are "good guys".

Or am I wrong?

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#110 Dec 28, 2012
Chilli J wrote:
<quoted text>
It was in the news. There are multiple articles. You could have googled and found them, like I did, when you located the link that you posted. Let me know if you need help locating the others, bud!
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/02/05/us-...
Why would I look for articles that are obviously incorrect?

:0)

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#111 Dec 28, 2012
entrenched wrote:
<quoted text>Im not much of an Obama fan but numbers never lie
According to Ferretman they do...

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#112 Dec 28, 2012
65007noogard wrote:
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Why would I look for articles that are obviously incorrect?
:0)
Some folks just flip a switch in their melon and assume any articles that don't match their existing POVs are "obviously incorrect." You just might be one of those assuming folks.

There were 20 or more articles online, by various reputable sources, about Bush and Cheney cancelling speaking engagements in Canada and Switzerland to avoid war criminal-related charges.

So all of them were "obviously incorrect?" LOL I know folks who religiously avoid reading, much less learning, any facts that are contrary to their pre-existing beliefs.

I won't waste more of my valuable time providing articles that you won't read. Where's that inquisitive mind? Oh...yeah... To paraphrase Ron Burgundy: "stay uninformed, Arcadia."

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#113 Dec 28, 2012
Force Majeure wrote:
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It's not really the question of whether or not Americans are "un"proud of that fact. What is upsetting is that so many Americans have the un-Democratic opinion that Bush and Cheney are "good guys".
Or am I wrong?
You're wrong. I see nothing "un-Democratic about Americans who have the opinion that Bush and Cheney are "good guys." This fine country was built on differing opinions. Perhaps its a cultural thing, maybe the definition of "un-Democratic" in Sweden differs from here.:)

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#114 Dec 28, 2012
Chilli J wrote:
<quoted text>
Some folks just flip a switch in their melon and assume any articles that don't match their existing POVs are "obviously incorrect." You just might be one of those assuming folks.
There were 20 or more articles online, by various reputable sources, about Bush and Cheney cancelling speaking engagements in Canada and Switzerland to avoid war criminal-related charges.
So all of them were "obviously incorrect?" LOL I know folks who religiously avoid reading, much less learning, any facts that are contrary to their pre-existing beliefs.
I won't waste more of my valuable time providing articles that you won't read. Where's that inquisitive mind? Oh...yeah... To paraphrase Ron Burgundy: "stay uninformed, Arcadia."
You stated Bush and Cheney >CANT< travel outside the US. He provided an article That shows your statement untrue. Seems your the one who doesnt have the open mind and wont change his views.

Just sayin..........

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#115 Dec 28, 2012
I liked Bush as a person but he spent too much of our tax payer's money.

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#116 Dec 28, 2012
Rider on the Storm wrote:
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You stated Bush and Cheney >CANT< travel outside the US. He provided an article That shows your statement untrue. Seems your the one who doesnt have the open mind and wont change his views.
Just sayin..........
My prior was:

"Does it make us proud to be Americans to know that Bush and Cheney can't travel outside the U. S., due to the very possibility that some countries might try to detain them on war criminal charges?"

I also used the word "might." Eqivocate much? Yes, Bush went to Africa, where, they might or might not have tried to detain him. We don't know whether they tried or not, do we? Your point would be?

Bush and Cheney cancelled separate trips to Canada to avoid potential war criminal charges. There were "safety" concerns that they might try to detain them there. My statement above is accurate.

Thanks for your admittedly innacurate feedback! You have a good one!

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#117 Dec 28, 2012
Chilli J wrote:
<quoted text>
My prior was:
"Does it make us proud to be Americans to know that Bush and Cheney can't travel outside the U. S., due to the very possibility that some countries might try to detain them on war criminal charges?"
I also used the word "might." Eqivocate much? Yes, Bush went to Africa, where, they might or might not have tried to detain him. We don't know whether they tried or not, do we? Your point would be?
Bush and Cheney cancelled separate trips to Canada to avoid potential war criminal charges. There were "safety" concerns that they might try to detain them there. My statement above is accurate.
Thanks for your admittedly innacurate feedback! You have a good one!
No its not.

You said they >cant< travel outside the US.

You used the word >Might< in reference to being punished........ not traveling......

His arcticle pointed that he >Could< travel outside the US.

You have a good one also..........And please try to keep an open mind.
;0)

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#118 Dec 28, 2012
quilterqueen wrote:
I liked Bush as a person but he spent too much of our tax payer's money.
He gave us tax breaks that we ALL enjoyed..........It was a mistake on his part. Whether he realized it or not I dont know. It very well could have been Cheneys idea to feed his investments, while keeping America happy and unsuspecting..........

I really dont know. I give him the benefit of the doubt. We are where were at and we need to do something about it before the country tanks, and thats not just Bush's fault thats everyones..........JMO........ ..

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#119 Dec 28, 2012
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#120 Dec 28, 2012
65007noogard wrote:
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Figures do indicate that Obama's spending surpassed GW's a long time ago. And we still have four more years to go! LoL.
Not by much as Bush's proposed spending for the last budget request he submitted exceeded revenues by just over a trillion dollars which means trillion dollar deficits were already in place before Obama took office.
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#121 Dec 28, 2012
HILARIOUS!!!

Merica never be da same!!
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#122 Dec 29, 2012
Chilli J wrote:
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You're wrong. I see nothing "un-Democratic about Americans who have the opinion that Bush and Cheney are "good guys." This fine country was built on differing opinions. Perhaps its a cultural thing, maybe the definition of "un-Democratic" in Sweden differs from here.:)
I don't mean un-Democratic in holding differing opinions. I mean referring to a man who un-Democratically ignored the Democratic system of the UN, un-Democratically lied to the world and its own population, un-Democratically (illegally)invaded Irak, as well as a string of other un-Demopcratic un-deeds.
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#123 Dec 29, 2012
Rider on the Storm wrote:
<quoted text>
You stated Bush and Cheney >CANT< travel outside the US. He provided an article That shows your statement untrue. Seems your the one who doesnt have the open mind and wont change his views.
Just sayin..........
Chilli was wrong in the fact that he OVER-stated it.

He is right, however, that Bush and Cheney may not travel "anywhere" they like. They had to chose to go ahead with their plans to travel to Siwtzerland and be arrested and tried, or ....... cancell their plans. They cancelled.

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