What bible story do you find hardest to believe?

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Adam and Eve. Just can't and don't buy it. There are quite a few that I find hard to believe but Adam and Eve I definetly do not believe.
There is nothing unbelievable about the Story of Adam and Eve. What is hard to believe is the implication that Eve was the "first sinner." What bull-shit? Satan was the "first sinner." However, as usual,blame the poor woman for all of man's ills. Sound like 'sexism' to me.

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Here's something not yet discussed. Politicians. When they are sworn in-take an oath with a hand on the bible. What do they do? Break the oath. How much do politicians have faith when swearing on the bible? I don't hear anyone speak of this.
Actually, it goes much deeper than that. In a secular court, what sort of fair act is it to use the Bible as a instrument of preventing perjury? For those that don't believe, it has no meaning. For those that do, God tells us never to swear on anything in His name or any other oath.

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12 But above all things, my brethren, swear not, neither by heaven, neither by the earth, neither by any other oath: but let your yea be yea; and your nay, nay; lest ye fall into condemnation.

So actually a Christian should be able to refuse the oath as it would conflict with their religious beliefs. What it comes down to is that the oath is forcing the hand of a believer and is perjury if proven to either that lie. Therefore the use of the Bible as vow of honesty in the courts is hypocritical and unconstitutional to those that believe on The Holy Bible.

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<quoted text>Things like Easter Eggs, Christmas Trees, etc.,originated from other practices other than Christianity, but these things have all been blended in WITH certain religious holidays.
I have always enjoyed them; practiced them.
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They do not hold the same meaning as they did originally, most likely.
The Harlot Roman Catholic Church, which came hundreds of years after the TRUE church, added in all kinds of pagan customs and practices into Christianity.

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In those days few people could read and write. Word of mouth from eye-witnesses is what started and established Christianity. Why do you think we are still discussing it almost 2000 years later?
No, toots, it was intimidation, torture, murder, etc..........that established most of it.

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Nancy Botwin wrote:
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You lost me at "shortcake". And yes, your other Christians buddies have been condemning everyone to hell fire that disagrees with them. Perhaps you need to have a chat with them. Personally, I don't care if your pink with purple polk-a-dots. Are you an honorable person and are you kind? That's all that matters to me.
Around here it's not just the JW's but the Mormon's as well. Whatever floats your boat...just don't come sail it in my pond. That's my motto!
Have a great day!(Really)
The only posters I know of who consistently condemn folks to hell are fundies, and they don't like me much either.

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The Harlot Roman Catholic Church, which came hundreds of years after the TRUE church, added in all kinds of pagan customs and practices into Christianity.
The Catholic Church was the first and only church around and for a long time.
As for Christmas trees, etc., yeah, plenty of things were borrowed from pagan practices/beliefs, etc., including most of the stories in the Old Testament.
I really do not care where these 'practices' like Easter Eggs came from, they are not required as Doctrine, etc. I enjoy them personally.

And, whoever posted about folks being threatened, killed, etc., to make them convert to Christianity, yeah, that is most likely true!
Still, it is the faith itself which draws me to it, always was.
It doesn't matter which faith you research, all of them contain some people who have done wrong things.
I would hope that we have grown beyond that, yet, here old RR is spewing her stuff, so.........
Still, he/she is a dying breed.

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Actually, it goes much deeper than that. In a secular court, what sort of fair act is it to use the Bible as a instrument of preventing perjury? For those that don't believe, it has no meaning. For those that do, God tells us never to swear on anything in His name or any other oath.
James 5:
12 But above all things, my brethren, swear not, neither by heaven, neither by the earth, neither by any other oath: but let your yea be yea; and your nay, nay; lest ye fall into condemnation.
So actually a Christian should be able to refuse the oath as it would conflict with their religious beliefs. What it comes down to is that the oath is forcing the hand of a believer and is perjury if proven to either that lie. Therefore the use of the Bible as vow of honesty in the courts is hypocritical and unconstitutional to those that believe on The Holy Bible.
Hi HS,
Good to see you posting.
Interesting stuff, and thank you for posting this one!

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<quoted text>There is nothing unbelievable about the Story of Adam and Eve. What is hard to believe is the implication that Eve was the "first sinner." What bull-shit? Satan was the "first sinner." However, as usual,blame the poor woman for all of man's ills. Sound like 'sexism' to me.
The Garden of Eden story is just that, a story.
Yet, there was, somewhere along the way, an Adam and Eve.

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<quoted text>The only posters I know of who consistently condemn folks to hell are fundies, and they don't like me much either.
Nah, hell sucks. Let's plan a reunion in heaven instead.

How are you doing Nettie? Been quite a while since we've gotten to exchange greetings. Still looking for that light at the end of the winter tunnel. But I have faith that it too shall pass and we will be given a new scenery of greening foliage, blooming flowers, the energizing through the sun's warm rays, and returning songbirds to enjoy anew.

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Nah, hell sucks. Let's plan a reunion in heaven instead.
How are you doing Nettie? Been quite a while since we've gotten to exchange greetings. Still looking for that light at the end of the winter tunnel. But I have faith that it too shall pass and we will be given a new scenery of greening foliage, blooming flowers, the energizing through the sun's warm rays, and returning songbirds to enjoy anew.
I am doing well.
Hang in there, Spring is coming.
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Thank you, GS. I enjoy you also.
WW I do hope you will grace us with your presence more often because this group of poster truly need your insightful view on things as it pertains to the topic at hand.
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WW I do hope you will grace us with your presence more often because this group of poster truly need your insightful view on things as it pertains to the topic at hand.
I myself like the talking snake story.Its a story they stole from the sumerians and tweeked it a little.The sumerian story had a group called the order of the snake.Then the goat herder bible writers stole it and added that a snake talked.If they said that now days what would people think hah?

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<quoted text>I myself like the talking snake story.Its a story they stole from the sumerians and tweeked it a little.The sumerian story had a group called the order of the snake.Then the goat herder bible writers stole it and added that a snake talked.If they said that now days what would people think hah?
Dear your analogy here is, shall we say, and I mean this in the most kind heartfelt way, low brow. You may consider trying harder next time however I personal could careless what others think because my life is just to legendary to be bothered with such things as low brow posts unless I am sharing and giving insight to give the poster a more kosher take on the subject at hand.

Now Witchinthewood, well, she has class and style with her posting and in due time you will see that Dear. WW has an astonishing wit with the written word.

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I see my entourage has entered the thread. I just adore each and everyone of you and appreciate you showing me that each of you hang on every word I post. Please do keep this up going forward because it gives me that star quality I so deserve.
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Dear your analogy here is, shall we say, and I mean this in the most kind heartfelt way, low brow. You may consider trying harder next time however I personal could careless what others think because my life is just to legendary to be bothered with such things as low brow posts unless I am sharing and giving insight to give the poster a more kosher take on the subject at hand.
Now Witchinthewood, well, she has class and style with her posting and in due time you will see that Dear. WW has an astonishing wit with the written word.
So you dont believe that the goat herder bible writers stole the storys from the sumerians? Very interesting yet telling?

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Suit yourself..since you know more than God...I'll leave you with it.
Adieu
Actually, I DO know more than your imaginary friend.
Imaginary beings really don't know much that's interesting.

Bye-bye.

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I see my entourage has entered the thread. I just adore each and everyone of you and appreciate you showing me that each of you hang on every word I post. Please do keep this up going forward because it gives me that star quality I so deserve.
Sadly, your star has fallen :-(

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<quoted text>So you dont believe that the goat herder bible writers stole the storys from the sumerians? Very interesting yet telling?
Dear you may want to start running this by mastic kitten before you post it.
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GodSmacked wrote:
<quoted text>Dear your analogy here is, shall we say, and I mean this in the most kind heartfelt way, low brow. You may consider trying harder next time however I personal could careless what others think because my life is just to legendary to be bothered with such things as low brow posts unless I am sharing and giving insight to give the poster a more kosher take on the subject at hand.

Now Witchinthewood, well, she has class and style with her posting and in due time you will see that Dear. WW has an astonishing wit with the written word.
What happened to my lady friend who was above all else, classy?

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