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#129 Apr 3, 2013
arctic wrote:
<quoted text>
Thanks for posting that.
More direct info than I've seen yet.
Doesn't help S. Korea but I don't think
N. Korea would be that stupid. It
would just be putting themselves in the
path of fallout. I'm assuming They
realize that.
Besides the realistically limited range of NK's missiles, they have yet to mount a nuke to one of them. Building a nuclear warhead is not the same as building a bomb and NK has yet to prove that they have the technical know how to pull it off.

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#130 Apr 3, 2013
DC tells it like it is wrote:
I don't know what all is read or not read, but this needs viewing:
North Korea is running a drug ring, and Kim Jong-un is its Bond-style Mr Big
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/timstanley/...
LoL. More like Dr. Evil from the Austin Powers movies.

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#131 Apr 3, 2013
DC tells it like it is wrote:
<quoted text>
Okay, this is what I was mostly looking for. I trust news coming out of the UK. Seems something is brewing:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asi...
US defence secretary: North Korea presents a real and clear danger
Chuck Hagel, the defence secretary, warned of a "real and clear" danger from North Korea as it was revealed that the Pentagon is sending an advanced ballistic missile defense system to Guam.
Then when you read through these, it makes you wonder how anyone over there is alive: http://www.kcna.co.jp/index-e.htm
I think all of the moves on our part are
just reminding N. Korea what we have.

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#132 Apr 3, 2013
dragoon70056 wrote:
<quoted text>
LoL. More like Dr. Evil from the Austin Powers movies.
You got me laughing so hard I could hardly read the other posts.
Kudos
arctic wrote:
<quoted text>
I think all of the moves on our part are
just reminding N. Korea what we have.
I am hoping the saying: "This too will pass". At this point, is a wait and see. As said, Kim Jong-un is a freak. And a young one at that. Drugs added into the equation is never a good thing. Not to mention, the wee bastard is short!

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#133 Apr 4, 2013
arctic wrote:
<quoted text>
Is the size of his army really going
to matter if nuclear bombs start falling?
He is making this a "nuclear" disagreement.
So he has A Bomb how many do we have....too many.
Their "army" of over 9 million is really only 2 million strong - they have over 7 million "reservists" that are unfit for military service. They are hoping to provoke the US into making the first step in hopes that China steps in and backs them. At this point, China is nothing but a very cautious observer - they really don't want to get into a tussle with the US - way too much business to lose.

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#134 Apr 4, 2013
milwaukee69 wrote:
<quoted text>
Their "army" of over 9 million is really only 2 million strong - they have over 7 million "reservists" that are unfit for military service. They are hoping to provoke the US into making the first step in hopes that China steps in and backs them. At this point, China is nothing but a very cautious observer - they really don't want to get into a tussle with the US - way too much business to lose.
I read an interesting op/ed piece on the economic impact of a new Korean war.

http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/rick-newman/...
SLACK

Ludington, MI

#135 Apr 4, 2013
milwaukee69 wrote:
<quoted text>
Their "army" of over 9 million is really only 2 million strong - they have over 7 million "reservists" that are unfit for military service. They are hoping to provoke the US into making the first step in hopes that China steps in and backs them. At this point, China is nothing but a very cautious observer - they really don't want to get into a tussle with the US - way too much business to lose.
oh

so it really is the 4th largest, guess I was right

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#136 Apr 4, 2013
SLACK wrote:
<quoted text>oh
so it really is the 4th largest, guess I was right
I asked you for proof of that, you never did post anything.

I, on the otherhand, posted proof that NK is not the 4th largest military power in the world. By sheer numbers alone, they are the largest - unfortunately, 80% of their "fighting force" is not fit for military duty (reservists, retirees, etc.)

I'd brush up on your reading skills if I were you.

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#137 Apr 4, 2013
Hunglo wrote:
<quoted text>
Besides the realistically limited range of NK's missiles, they have yet to mount a nuke to one of them.

Building a nuclear warhead is not the same as building a bomb and NK has yet to prove that they have the technical know how to pull it off.
Which is fine with me. Let the little bastard bluster and bluff till the cows come home. But at the first real sign of an attempt to show his ass, we need to hand it to him on a brass plate.
SLACK

Ludington, MI

#138 Apr 4, 2013
milwaukee69 wrote:
<quoted text>
I asked you for proof of that, you never did post anything.
I, on the otherhand, posted proof that NK is not the 4th largest military power in the world. By sheer numbers alone, they are the largest - unfortunately, 80% of their "fighting force" is not fit for military duty (reservists, retirees, etc.)
I'd brush up on your reading skills if I were you.
but you knew I was correct and yet you posted I was wrong

why?
SLACK

Ludington, MI

#139 Apr 4, 2013
no response

I guess you are just a troll

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#140 Apr 4, 2013
DC wrote: North Korea is running a drug ring

That would explain Dennis Rodman.
With all the trouble he's been in you would have thought he would have been given a drug test?

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#141 Apr 4, 2013
SLACK wrote:
<quoted text>but you knew I was correct and yet you posted I was wrong
why?
You were not correct - nor have you ever been correct.

To put it another way:

Você não foram correctas - nem ter você sempre foi correto.
SLACK

Ludington, MI

#142 Apr 4, 2013
milwaukee69 wrote:
<quoted text>
You were not correct - nor have you ever been correct.
To put it another way:
Você não foram correctas - nem ter você sempre foi correto.
enjoy your "ham sandwich"

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#143 Apr 4, 2013
SLACK wrote:
<quoted text>enjoy your "ham sandwich"
Enjoy your foot - duck EEEE foot that is - just don't swallow like you've been known to do with all the "boys."

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#144 Apr 4, 2013
Hunglo wrote:
<quoted text>
Besides the realistically limited range of NK's missiles, they have yet to mount a nuke to one of them. Building a nuclear warhead is not the same as building a bomb and NK has yet to prove that they have the technical know how to pull it off.
Of course.
From all reports we don't think they can get
one here but we are not totally sure.

They have done quite a bit more than just build a
bomb. They have tested a few of them. Plus they
have restarted a reactor which they claim is "partly
for power" (even though it has never been hooked
into the power grid). That reactor can generate
enough material in 1 yr to build a bomb.

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#145 Apr 4, 2013
DC tells it like it is wrote:
<quoted text>
You got me laughing so hard I could hardly read the other posts.
Kudos
<quoted text>
I am hoping the saying: "This too will pass". At this point, is a wait and see. As said, Kim Jong-un is a freak. And a young one at that. Drugs added into the equation is never a good thing. Not to mention, the wee bastard is short!
Agreed.

How much power does this kid really have do you think?

I mean is he like Bush w/a Chenney in the back ground
pulling the strings or is he making the decision to try
and provoke the US?

I watch a bit of their news last night. It's sorta
frightening. Just thinking that the ppl of N. Korea
are getting Nothing outside their own country and the
news was decidedly against the U.S.
There are ppl in this country that are from N.K. and
they confirm that they are raised to believe that the
U.S is not only evil but the very cause of all of their
problems.

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#146 Apr 4, 2013
arctic wrote:
<quoted text>
Of course.
From all reports we don't think they can get
one here but we are not totally sure.
They have done quite a bit more than just build a
bomb. They have tested a few of them. Plus they
have restarted a reactor which they claim is "partly
for power" (even though it has never been hooked
into the power grid). That reactor can generate
enough material in 1 yr to build a bomb.
A couple of things to clear up here, Artie. First, we're still not sure if they have actually tested any nuclear devices yet. Reports are sketchy at best.

"On October 9, 2006, the North Korean government issued an announcement that it had successfully conducted a nuclear test for the first time. Both the United States Geological Survey and Japanese seismological authorities detected an earthquake with a preliminary estimated magnitude of 4.3 in North Korea, corroborating some aspects of the North Korean claims. On January 6, 2007, the North Korean government further confirmed that it had nuclear weapons."

As for it's nuclear reactor firing back up - it'll take years, if not decades to rebuild it.

"It was unclear how quickly Yongbyon, whose cooling tower was destroyed as part of an earlier denuclearization deal with major powers, would take to restart."

"It was also impossible to verify whether Yongbyon remained connected to North Korea's antiquated electricity grid at all."

"It was a reactor that was nearing obsolescence with a cooling tower that wasn't functioning properly when it was blown up. It could mean they've been rebuilding quite a few things," said Yoo Ho-yeol, North Korea specialist at Korea University in Seoul.

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#147 Apr 4, 2013
arctic wrote:
<quoted text>
Of course.
From all reports we don't think they can get
one here but we are not totally sure.
They have done quite a bit more than just build a
bomb. They have tested a few of them. Plus they
have restarted a reactor which they claim is "partly
for power" (even though it has never been hooked
into the power grid). That reactor can generate
enough material in 1 yr to build a bomb.
Yes, they have tested 3 bombs, and may have up to 5 more available to use should a conflict begin. They have never tested a nuclear warhead attached to a missile though. To restart that reactor in Yongbyon will take time, about 6 months. If this crisis becomes a shooting war, that facility will be a crater within days of the first shots being fired.

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#148 Apr 4, 2013
milwaukee69 wrote:
<quoted text>
A couple of things to clear up here, Artie. First, we're still not sure if they have actually tested any nuclear devices yet. Reports are sketchy at best.
"On October 9, 2006, the North Korean government issued an announcement that it had successfully conducted a nuclear test for the first time. Both the United States Geological Survey and Japanese seismological authorities detected an earthquake with a preliminary estimated magnitude of 4.3 in North Korea, corroborating some aspects of the North Korean claims. On January 6, 2007, the North Korean government further confirmed that it had nuclear weapons."
As for it's nuclear reactor firing back up - it'll take years, if not decades to rebuild it.
"It was unclear how quickly Yongbyon, whose cooling tower was destroyed as part of an earlier denuclearization deal with major powers, would take to restart."
"It was also impossible to verify whether Yongbyon remained connected to North Korea's antiquated electricity grid at all."
"It was a reactor that was nearing obsolescence with a cooling tower that wasn't functioning properly when it was blown up. It could mean they've been rebuilding quite a few things," said Yoo Ho-yeol, North Korea specialist at Korea University in Seoul.
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I thought that I had heard that about the cooling tower too, but couldn't find anything to back it up.

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