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Should the legal drinking age be lowered to 18?

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Have never been to Miami, but have been to Tampa. Nice place there, It is where we got on the cruise ship. We were in Tampa for three days. Was going to drive down to Miami in our rental car, but never made it. But I have heard nothing but bad things about the Miami.
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Tampa is nice, it's a couple hours North west of me on Floridas west coast. They have some beautiful beaches nearby, and the Tampa aquarium is a great place. It is definitely an "outdoorsy" kind of city, I have had a lot of fun there.
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I thought we were talking about the drinking age........anyways..Im going for my answer to be "other", I mean, how many people think their kids are going to wait until 18 to start drinking??? back to reality people. Does not matter what they set the drinking age at....does it?

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I would like to say yes because 18 year olds are treated fully as adults by the legal system and they can also die for their country on a foreign battlefield. Unfortunately, wherever the drinking age was lowered, there was a substantial increase of alcohol involved accidents of under 21 drivers. My heart says yes, but my better judgment says "HELL NO!"

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They are still a weapon - as was the gun that kid shot his sister with. The purpose of those type of weapons is to teach kids gun safety - guns of any types are not toys. But the manufacturers still market them as such to kids.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/09/us/teenager...
That was a story about a kid that pulled a realistic looking, high powered bb gun on cops. Pulling a gun on the cops (especially at a school like that kid did) is an exceptionally dangerous thing to do. Airsoft guns are marketed as a replacement for the paintball guns that have become so popular, and they all have a large orange piece attached to the barrel to show they aren't real guns.. However, as a responsible parent and gun owner I would never allow my child to point a gun of any type at another person, not even an airsoft gun. You only point a gun at something you are prepared to kill.
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Shari Lea wrote:
I thought we were talking about the drinking age........anyways..Im going for my answer to be "other", I mean, how many people think their kids are going to wait until 18 to start drinking??? back to reality people. Does not matter what they set the drinking age at....does it?
Someone's always trying to *win* Topix, Shari and every time that Ferrerman posts that Billy guy goes nutty!

You are right though, in that it doesn't matter. I don't see 18 as encouraging kids to drink but, I do see 21 as denying them access at a time when they are otherwise in the adult world of working, school or the military- with all the other privileges, perks and problems of adulthood. They might as well legally have a beer!

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A noted observer wrote:
<quoted text>Someone's always trying to *win* Topix, Shari and every time that Ferrerman posts that Billy guy goes nutty!
You are right though, in that it doesn't matter. I don't see 18 as encouraging kids to drink but, I do see 21 as denying them access at a time when they are otherwise in the adult world of working, school or the military- with all the other privileges, perks and problems of adulthood. They might as well legally have a beer!
Ferrerman, why don't you have the courage to state your opinions openly? Instead, you sign out to troll. In the future, try to show some courage and say what you believe using your usual name.
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A noted observer wrote:
<quoted text>Someone's always trying to *win* Topix, Shari and every time that Ferrerman posts that Billy guy goes nutty!
You are right though, in that it doesn't matter. I don't see 18 as encouraging kids to drink but, I do see 21 as denying them access at a time when they are otherwise in the adult world of working, school or the military- with all the other privileges, perks and problems of adulthood. They might as well legally have a beer!
Oh, is that what happened.....talk about off topic..ok I get it.

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Shari Lea wrote:
I thought we were talking about the drinking age........anyways..Im going for my answer to be "other", I mean, how many people think their kids are going to wait until 18 to start drinking??? back to reality people. Does not matter what they set the drinking age at....does it?
Does any thread ever stay on topic here? Anyway,I have to disagree with making something legal because "everybody" is doing it. This is a public safety issue. When laws were passed to allow lower drinking ages, there was a significant rise in teenage accidents involving alcohol, putting every one of us who got into a vehicle at higher risk.
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A noted observer wrote:
<quoted text>Someone's always trying to *win* Topix, Shari and every time that Ferrerman posts that Billy guy goes nutty!
You are right though, in that it doesn't matter. I don't see 18 as encouraging kids to drink but, I do see 21 as denying them access at a time when they are otherwise in the adult world of working, school or the military- with all the other privileges, perks and problems of adulthood. They might as well legally have a beer!
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flbadcatowner wrote:
<quoted text>Does any thread ever stay on topic here? Anyway,I have to disagree with making something legal because "everybody" is doing it. This is a public safety issue. When laws were passed to allow lower drinking ages, there was a significant rise in teenage accidents involving alcohol, putting every one of us who got into a vehicle at higher risk.
But, that would not be "why"- that everybody is doing it. That's like reichwingers who say we don't need laws because laws do not *prevent* crime. They always say: "We have too many laws!"

So, it's not like that. People at 18 are already voting/working/serving/etc. so, they might as well enjoy a legal beer. Sixteen is an entirely different argument and will never be on the table for alcohol. I'm not so sure it is a good age for driving any more and I think a lot of kids that age agree. I hear a lot of 16 year olds are in no hurry to get a license.

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harley-hunni wrote:
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Actually there are more deaths here by cell phone use by teens (girls mostly, and middle aged women), than alcohol.
We passed a law for distracted driving, but it has yet to catch on, or be inforced!!!!
I know this is not America or Canada, but in the Dominican there is no age limit for alcohol, and there is no teenage drinking problems, or death related accidents. When we were there a very good friend of ours sent his 14 year old daughter to the store to get us some beer, she came right home with the beer. I think the more you say no, the more they want it because it is taboo, so it makes it more enticing to have.
Both impaired drivers and texting or using a cell phone while driving is dangerous and puts us all at risk. Just for my own curiosity, while I was driving ona oad that was relatively unoccupied, I tried to dial a cell phone while driving and I just couldn't do both which makes it no wonder why texting and driving are so dangerous. My advice is that anybody who needs to talk on a cell phone needs to pull over to the road's shoulder and park until finished gabbing.

As far as countries without legal drinking ages is concerned, many are poor countries where only a small percentage of the people even own cars and many who do can barely afford the price of gas which limits their driving to drive unless it is an absolute necessity. Many also cannot afford to buy large quantities of booze anyway.

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Excuse por favor~
When did the law Began for legal age? Naturally adjusting the ratio numbers for population growth etc. How many teenage deaths related to alcohol abuse happen, compared to the time befor this prohibition? Thinking you will find your answers in those statistics.

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<quoted text>I thought you knew exactly which gray posts were Ferrermans and which was not? Werent you the troll in charge of that? Why does it matter how he posts? I didn't even think it was a question any longer (with you).
Really. How does he *know* whose posts are whose? Is he that Chris Topix guy?
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<quoted text>I thought you knew exactly which gray posts were Ferrermans and which was not? Werent you the troll in charge of that? Why does it matter how he posts? I didn't even think it was a question any longer (with you).
You two phaggettes are always whining about "cowardly grey box posters" while you yourselves are signing in and out.

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Am I the only one who thinks the drinking problems, such as people loading up to .20 or more and hopping in a car, is a derivative of the fact alcohol use is maintained as a taboo for the first "X" years of the drinker's life?

Some will inevitably turn into alcholics by their own nature -- but we encourage people to sneak around and drink privately and in binges because it's illegal and we all know youths are drawn to do whatever the establishment says they shouldn't do.

Seems to me if parents were able to introduce their offspring to booze as a normal part of growing up the mystique and rebelliousness of that big Friday or Saturday night bingefest would diminish.

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<quoted text>You two phaggettes are always whining about "cowardly grey box posters" while you yourselves are signing in and out.
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<quoted text>When I post gray, you see the city and know its me just like my last post, and lo and behold you knew it was me. <golf clap> That wasnt so hard was it? So why whine about "gray posts"?
Your boyfriend that. He whines about unregistered posters all the time. Hand him a tissue also, will you? I can't stand to see a terminally pre-pubescent man cry.
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Ferrerman wrote:
<quoted text>Really. How does he *know* whose posts are whose? Is he that Chris Topix guy?


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Yo Junior wrote:
<quoted text>When I post gray, you see the city and know its me just like my last post, and lo and behold you knew it was me. <golf clap> That wasnt so hard was it? So why whine about "gray posts"?
It doesn't matter what city and state you choose.
You're easy to spot because of your stupidity.
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you should be looking for your son
Son??? We always thought he shot blanks????

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