Should the legal drinking age be lowered to 18?

Created by flbadcatowner on May 10, 2013

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#269 May 16, 2013
victoria1 wrote:
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And!!! I can drink in 4 or 5 languages.
I bet you can!!

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#270 May 16, 2013
victoria1 wrote:
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And!!! I can drink in 4 or 5 languages.
An extremely useful skill!

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#271 May 16, 2013
What will the illegal drinking age be?

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#272 May 16, 2013
Rabid Liberal wrote:
What will the illegal drinking age be?
ask the legal bar of the state .. ha ha ha ha ha

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#273 May 31, 2013
victoria1 wrote:
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And!!! I can drink in 4 or 5 languages.
You have me beaten. I can only drink in three languages.
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#276 Jun 1, 2013
Yea

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#278 Jun 1, 2013
LOL

How dumb

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#279 Jun 1, 2013
harley-hunni wrote:
Doesn't really matter what the drinking age is, it is how the kids are raised anyways. There are places in this world where this is no drining age, and they do not have a drinking problem with youth, the drinking problems are usually caused by tourists who have no idea about restraint. These same people are raising children the same.
In the U.S., lowered drinking ages were tried and it led to an increase in alcohol related deaths where young drivers were involved. What works in one country might not work in another.

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#282 Jun 1, 2013
harley-hunni wrote:
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I don't know, it seems to work in more than one country. I lean towards the fact that a lot of this drinking and driving is due to parents..not anything else.
The demographics can vary widely from one country to another and the experiment with lower drinking ages was a disaster for the most part in the U.S.

Just to change the subject, did you see where Milwaukee 69 said we were one and the same? This exchange should prove that old fool wrong once and for all. And I do appreciate how we can disagree without being disagreeable.

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#283 Jun 1, 2013
harley-hunni wrote:
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Would one of those states be Georgia?? Because that would explain it.
There are far more backward states than Georgia.

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#284 Jun 1, 2013
What's it really matter? From about the age of say 14, when I was underage it was not hard at all to get alcohol anytime I wanted. We drank all the time ... every weekend, at the very least.

The law made no difference, except for being able to go out to bars ... but it was much cheaper than going to bars to just get a case or two with some buds. Back then we could each kick in $6 bucks and get a case to split between two guys.$6 bucks and you'd be lucky to afford two beers at a bar.

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#285 Jun 1, 2013
Sublime1 wrote:
What's it really matter? From about the age of say 14, when I was underage it was not hard at all to get alcohol anytime I wanted. We drank all the time ... every weekend, at the very least.
The law made no difference, except for being able to go out to bars ... but it was much cheaper than going to bars to just get a case or two with some buds. Back then we could each kick in $6 bucks and get a case to split between two guys.$6 bucks and you'd be lucky to afford two beers at a bar.
At age 14, I was not all that interested in booze and when I did get interested, it was not all that easy for me to get it while I was underaged.

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#287 Jun 1, 2013
I have not known about any state lower its drinking age..... uniform code at 21,,

one reason is it would cause border jumping

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#288 Jun 1, 2013
tallyho wrote:
I have not known about any state lower its drinking age..... uniform code at 21,,
one reason is it would cause border jumping
When I was a teen living in NJ, I was perhaps 20 miles away from Suffern, NY. In NY, the legal drinking age was 18 at the time and because my parents wouldn't allow it, I had to drive there on the sly in order to buy the hooch as my grandmother used to call it. I did get caught hiding it by my mother one time, but she was not as hard on me as I thought she would be and later grudgingly accepted that I was going to do it whether she liked it or not. That was some 45 years ago.

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#290 Jun 1, 2013
harley-hunni wrote:
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Border jumping by whom sweetie? Not by Canadians, because we have lower drinking ages than you. The only other border is Mexico, and they do not have a drinking age that I know of or seen by locals for locals.
He was talking about interstate border jumping within the US, I presume.

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#292 Jun 2, 2013
flbadcatowner wrote:
<quoted text>When I was a teen living in NJ, I was perhaps 20 miles away from Suffern, NY. In NY, the legal drinking age was 18 at the time and because my parents wouldn't allow it, I had to drive there on the sly in order to buy the hooch as my grandmother used to call it. I did get caught hiding it by my mother one time, but she was not as hard on me as I thought she would be and later grudgingly accepted that I was going to do it whether she liked it or not. That was some 45 years ago.
yes agree , Ny was originally 18 ,then 20 then 21

but the PA border was busy , because Pa was 21 as well ... and the same for Ontario, Canada

states began to uniform the drinking age due to US government pressure ,

NY drinking law are as follows city-county-state

right now the hours of operations vary

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#293 Jun 2, 2013
harley-hunni wrote:
I suppose you mean Tally by border crossing you may mean by your own. You had me a bit confused, because there really is not border..lol! But still, if they are have parents who have a conscience, and teach their kids to not drink and drive, it would bring business, to the bars, and to the hotels...lol1!
hi Bezer , no both Canadian and states [NY-PA]
in Ontario they still had ladies must be escorted in

we were waiting and waiting finally a gent informed us our ladies were sitting next door [aaaaaaaah] no cell phones , nice ..he he he he

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#294 Jun 2, 2013
PS: Canadian came to Buffalo because it was 18 and bars closed at 4:00 am not like 21 and midnight in Ont.Ca

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#295 Jun 2, 2013
flbadcatowner wrote:
<quoted text>At age 14, I was not all that interested in booze and when I did get interested, it was not all that easy for me to get it while I was underaged.
I dunno where you grew up and in what generation, but half my high school class went out and partied every weekend by say Sophomore or Junior year and and unless you were someone who just wasn't interested in that scene (and there are some kids like that, but they aren't going to be in that scene regardless of what the drinking age is), and certainly by 18 it was no problem to get beer if you were interested in that and sought it out.

I grew up a little faster and started partying when I was 14 only because I had two brothers who were 2 and 3 years older than me, and they took me out with them and their friends. Even if there was not a party with some kegs, and a lot of weekend nights there was (word travels fast), in our circle of friends, there were a couple of guys who had brothers who were 21 and one guy who was good buddies with my one good friend who was 21 and we would have them get us beer and give them maybe an extra $5 for their trouble. Same with a lot of guys I knew.

A few times I remember running out of beer and not being able to find someone later at night, but if we planned a head it was never a problem.

By the time I was 18 and in college it was just as easy. Then when I was 18 i used my bros ID to get in bars (eventually lost that) and had a fake ID that said I was from Wyoming.

Where there is a will, there is a way.

Pretty much the only thing that would have stopped me would have been my parents, but I was the last of 5 kids and they were pretty hands off with me (I think they were burned out). My oldest siblings had a much tougher time than me, but even though I had a lot of freedom, I think I handled it pretty well.

My wife on the other hand was more like you and she didn't hang in that circle. I don't think she ever had a drop of alcohol until we started dating when she was 16 and I took her to some parties with me. Had she not dated me would not have even known where to start if she wanted a drink (she wasn't really interested in it ... I corrupted her, lol).

My boys will not have that much freedom as I had. I can tell ya that much. That is parenting, tho, not the law.

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#297 Jun 2, 2013
Sublime1 wrote:
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I dunno where you grew up and in what generation, but half my high school class went out and partied every weekend by say Sophomore or Junior year and and unless you were someone who just wasn't interested in that scene (and there are some kids like that, but they aren't going to be in that scene regardless of what the drinking age is), and certainly by 18 it was no problem to get beer if you were interested in that and sought it out.
I grew up a little faster and started partying when I was 14 only because I had two brothers who were 2 and 3 years older than me, and they took me out with them and their friends. Even if there was not a party with some kegs, and a lot of weekend nights there was (word travels fast), in our circle of friends, there were a couple of guys who had brothers who were 21 and one guy who was good buddies with my one good friend who was 21 and we would have them get us beer and give them maybe an extra $5 for their trouble. Same with a lot of guys I knew.
A few times I remember running out of beer and not being able to find someone later at night, but if we planned a head it was never a problem.
By the time I was 18 and in college it was just as easy. Then when I was 18 i used my bros ID to get in bars (eventually lost that) and had a fake ID that said I was from Wyoming.
Where there is a will, there is a way.
Pretty much the only thing that would have stopped me would have been my parents, but I was the last of 5 kids and they were pretty hands off with me (I think they were burned out). My oldest siblings had a much tougher time than me, but even though I had a lot of freedom, I think I handled it pretty well.
My wife on the other hand was more like you and she didn't hang in that circle. I don't think she ever had a drop of alcohol until we started dating when she was 16 and I took her to some parties with me. Had she not dated me would not have even known where to start if she wanted a drink (she wasn't really interested in it ... I corrupted her, lol).
My boys will not have that much freedom as I had. I can tell ya that much. That is parenting, tho, not the law.
interesting hope you allow your children to do what they want ..to hell with the law .... you have a lawyer on retainer

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