If Romney loses, how many riots will there be?

Created by Dirty_ White_ Boy on Nov 6, 2012

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#725 Nov 20, 2012
Sublime1 wrote:
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That's the problem with a lot of manufacturing jobs. They don't do that anymore.
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#726 Nov 20, 2012
Sublime1 wrote:
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Allowing the Bush tax cuts to expire on the wealthy as Obama wishes, will only bring in 68 billion more a year. Thatís not very much when we are taking on over 1000 billion in debt every year. That solves about 7% of our spending problem.
See? It's even worse than I foolishly made it out to be!*Only*$68 BILLION! Chump change. Why bother? Better cut PBS AND unemployment. Wall Street's going to be needing that SS money to gamble with too...

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#729 Nov 20, 2012

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#730 Nov 20, 2012
Tax Audit wrote:
<quoted text>Romney bragged about paying a 13% tax rate. I bet even you pay more than that. You're ok with that? I don't see where you're coming from other than behind.
Au contraire, he never bragged about it. Liberals using the MSM as the propaganda wing did blow it out of proportion, even though Obama, Pelosi and Reid all use the same laws to pay the least tax possible themselves. Your one sided game is getting a little old and fools only other childish liberals.

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#731 Nov 20, 2012
au contraire wrote:
<quoted text>Au contraire, he never bragged about it. Liberals using the MSM as the propaganda wing did blow it out of proportion, even though Obama, Pelosi and Reid all use the same laws to pay the least tax possible themselves. Your one sided game is getting a little old and fools only other childish liberals.
On a related note, President Obama would like to thank all the hate-mongering conservatives out there that paid their federal taxes last year. Without those taxpayers, the president would've never pulled in a salary to campaign and win re-election.

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#732 Nov 20, 2012
The guy with the fake chick pic does sorta have a point. Sorta.

Who is kidding who (or is it whom?) though when it comes to tax rates? If Rmoney paid 13% it was only set up that way to have something to show for his presidential candidacy. An astute observer might notice that 13% is nowhere near 35% and even further away from a proposed 39% tax rate. Rmoney was used to paying 0%(nothing) as many super rich people do. They have accountants take care of such things. Even far less successful types who may make a mere $1 million a year are not so stupid as to pay the 35 or the 39 per cent rates.

So, who does pay 35% now? Who will pay 39% when the cuts expire? I can't wait to find out!

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#734 Nov 21, 2012
Billy R wrote:
<quoted text>Are you seriously claiming that you don't have a repellant personality?
Are you seriously trying to practice psychology again...without a license? I could easily pick you out in a crowd as the one with the flaming pants.

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#735 Nov 21, 2012
Billy R wrote:
<quoted text>You must be having those blackouts again, so let me help you remember... http://www.topix.com/forum/news/weird/T6U1U0T...
The post inquestion was not made to you. While I used the term fawning in the post, I did not accuse any specific individual of doing it. Maybe you need to read my posts more carefully. I suppose it is possible that somebody has a guilty conscience from having read my post.

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#736 Nov 21, 2012
Sublime1 wrote:
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Changing demographics will be a big driver of this in the coming years. For an ever increasing percentage of the electorate, when it comes to voting, it just comes down to who is going to give you more handouts. Statistically most of the minorities prefer the party of handouts, and as demographics change, it will be harder and harder for those who do not agree with doing more and more to "help" people to have any voice whatsoever.
It's the classic expression "democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting over what to have for lunch" manifesting itself. The percentage of wolves are increasing and they will want to be fed, because they are entitled to it, after all ... just ask them - they will tell you a sad story.
The sooner that the wolves' prey stops getting sent to China, the sooner that they will become less dependent on the government.
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#739 Nov 21, 2012
Here Comes The Boom wrote:
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look who's talking:
http://www.topix.com/forum/news/topix/TSQ64TR...
rotfl
Really.

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#740 Nov 26, 2012
I refuse NOT to pay my taxes...

One word...filibuster...

Time to go over the cliff everyone...

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#741 Nov 26, 2012
flbadcatowner wrote:
<quoted text>The sooner that the wolves' prey stops getting sent to China, the sooner that they will become less dependent on the government.
Yes, the typical blame game. Nothing adverse that happens to the wolves in their life is the wolves fault. They are innocent victims of society.

Globalization is not going to stop anytime soon. HOw about if instead of blaming others, the wolves recognize this and get an education like I and many other did instead of scrapping the bottom of the barrel and expecting to live the middle class dream building cheap widgets in some factory. That's pie in the f'ing sky. Those days are gone. That's just the way it is. You either adapt or you don't.

Of course, sitting around feeling sorry for yourself and blaming others is much easier for some.

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#742 Nov 26, 2012
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Yes, the typical blame game. Nothing adverse that happens to the wolves in their life is the wolves fault. They are innocent victims of society.
Globalization is not going to stop anytime soon. HOw about if instead of blaming others, the wolves recognize this and get an education like I and many other did instead of scrapping the bottom of the barrel and expecting to live the middle class dream building cheap widgets in some factory. That's pie in the f'ing sky. Those days are gone. That's just the way it is. You either adapt or you don't.
Of course, sitting around feeling sorry for yourself and blaming others is much easier for some.
You are certainly a clueless one. First, not every well educated person has a job. Many recent college grads cannot find work. Jobs do not magically appear because people get an education for a certain job.

Not everybody out there has the ability to be a scholar. Some people who are not intellectually gifted certainly are capable of becoming excellent mechanics, builders, plumbers, etc. and are no less important to society than college grads. Besides which, people who are builders, plumbers, electricians, roofers, etc. can't have their jobs outsourced.

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#743 Nov 26, 2012
flbadcatowner wrote:
<quoted text>You are certainly a clueless one. First, not every well educated person has a job. Many recent college grads cannot find work. Jobs do not magically appear because people get an education for a certain job.
Not everybody out there has the ability to be a scholar. Some people who are not intellectually gifted certainly are capable of becoming excellent mechanics, builders, plumbers, etc. and are no less important to society than college grads. Besides which, people who are builders, plumbers, electricians, roofers, etc. can't have their jobs outsourced.
We arenít talking about temporary government aid while one is unemployed. Very few folks have a problem with that.

We are talking about folks who live that life every day of their life and have no planS to change it. We are talking about folks who just accept that food stamps (in many cases while continuing to pop out kids when they canít even take care of the ones they already have), subsidized housing, subsidized or free Obamacare, and any number of entitlements ARE A WAY OF LIFE. We are talking about folks, who you mentioned, who feel itís perfectly okay to not do anything to improve their life and who instead sit back and make excuses about globalization being the cause for their failure to take charge of their life.

Some folks take charge of their life and steer it themselves. Others want the government to do so for them and then blame the government or the state of affairs for their situation in life.

IF you donít like that jobs are being sent overseas, you can wait for the government to do something about it, which is what you advocate, in typical liberal fashion (good luck with that), or you can take it upon yourself to adapt to REALITY.

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#744 Nov 26, 2012
Sublime1 wrote:
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We arenít talking about temporary government aid while one is unemployed. Very few folks have a problem with that.
We are talking about folks who live that life every day of their life and have no planS to change it. We are talking about folks who just accept that food stamps (in many cases while continuing to pop out kids when they canít even take care of the ones they already have), subsidized housing, subsidized or free Obamacare, and any number of entitlements ARE A WAY OF LIFE. We are talking about folks, who you mentioned, who feel itís perfectly okay to not do anything to improve their life and who instead sit back and make excuses about globalization being the cause for their failure to take charge of their life.
Some folks take charge of their life and steer it themselves. Others want the government to do so for them and then blame the government or the state of affairs for their situation in life.
IF you donít like that jobs are being sent overseas, you can wait for the government to do something about it, which is what you advocate, in typical liberal fashion (good luck with that), or you can take it upon yourself to adapt to REALITY.
The only reality out there is that there are not enough jobs out there for all who want jobs. As far as the liberals being the only ones complaining according to you, that is a bald faced lie. Many small American businesses have gone under because of larger corporations that started making things more cheaply in China and couldn't compete with them. Outsourcing has also raised our trade deficit and made us a debtor nation, something that does not bother the typical neo-con. China is now holding a large part of our debt in the form of government bonds.

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#745 Nov 26, 2012
Sublime1 wrote:
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We arenít talking about temporary government aid while one is unemployed. Very few folks have a problem with that.
We are talking about folks who live that life every day of their life and have no planS to change it. We are talking about folks who just accept that food stamps (in many cases while continuing to pop out kids when they canít even take care of the ones they already have), subsidized housing, subsidized or free Obamacare, and any number of entitlements ARE A WAY OF LIFE. We are talking about folks, who you mentioned, who feel itís perfectly okay to not do anything to improve their life and who instead sit back and make excuses about globalization being the cause for their failure to take charge of their life.
Some folks take charge of their life and steer it themselves. Others want the government to do so for them and then blame the government or the state of affairs for their situation in life.
IF you donít like that jobs are being sent overseas, you can wait for the government to do something about it, which is what you advocate, in typical liberal fashion (good luck with that), or you can take it upon yourself to adapt to REALITY.
The government has actually promoted outsourcing by failure to force China to adhere to fair currency and trade practices and politicians of both parties are guilty as charged.

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#746 Nov 26, 2012
flbadcatowner wrote:
<quoted text>The government has actually promoted outsourcing by failure to force China to adhere to fair currency and trade practices and politicians of both parties are guilty as charged.
NAFTA was largely a progressive liberal idea...but I agree that outsourcing needs to stop.

We have the businesses and the innovation here...we just need to keep them here...that means changing laws and how we hold accountable those countries that try to undermine the American economy by essentially stealing those jobs away.

But are ANY of the politicians on either side really ready to do this?

Most are bought and paid for by corporations overseas that supercede the American people and that is something we as the American people MUST address...in other words we really need to look at how we vote. We MUST bridge party lines and start voting out ALL incumbents on a regular basis rather than leaving people in that become no better than robber barons or kings...

We MUST start a revolving door practice in our voting and enact as a people our own term limits. If they served a term then vote them out. If they're good...thank them...if they're bad...thanks for playing...but we can't let the corporations allow the politicians to be so bought off away from us by letting them stay in office a lifetime...

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#747 Nov 26, 2012
flbadcatowner wrote:
<quoted text>The only reality out there is that there are not enough jobs out there for all who want jobs. As far as the liberals being the only ones complaining according to you, that is a bald faced lie. Many small American businesses have gone under because of larger corporations that started making things more cheaply in China and couldn't compete with them. Outsourcing has also raised our trade deficit and made us a debtor nation, something that does not bother the typical neo-con. China is now holding a large part of our debt in the form of government bonds.
Iíve worked with manufacturing most of my career. Outsourcing things to china is good for labor intensive and cheap products. Outsourcing doesnít work so well for highly technical goods that require a lot of engineering or a highly skilled labor force.

As I have said repeatedly, if your lifeís ambition is to assemble tchotchkes in a factory and live the middle class American dream, the problem isnít so much that there are no longer very many jobs making tchotchkes in factories, but that you have a flawed plan with your life. There are very few of those jobs left anymore, and they are not coming back anytime soon. If it wasnít some U.S. company outsourcing those jobs to China or where ever to save on costs, you can guarantee at some point their foreign competitors would or already had.

Thatís just the way it is.

Itís also just as much consumer driven as business driven. So blame consumers too.

Given the situation, people need to adapt and get the training/education that is required for more skilled labor. This is their responsibility, not mine, or the governments (although I do support government assistance for training for folks who were previously employed in job areas that are not likely to recover).

China holds a large part of our debt, because we spend too much, for which an ever increasing number of entitlement programs are significantly to blame.

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#748 Nov 26, 2012
flbadcatowner wrote:
<quoted text>The government has actually promoted outsourcing by failure to force China to adhere to fair currency and trade practices and politicians of both parties are guilty as charged.
If it wasn't China, it would be some other country where folks are willing to work for peanuts.

It's really the fact that certain foreigners are willing to work for peanuts, which lowers the cost of goods, and the fact that all things being equal, Americans and those abroad will choose to buy a less costly good than a more costly same good, that drives this phenomena.

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#749 Nov 26, 2012
Knightmare wrote:
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NAFTA was largely a progressive liberal idea...but I agree that outsourcing needs to stop.
We have the businesses and the innovation here...we just need to keep them here...that means changing laws and how we hold accountable those countries that try to undermine the American economy by essentially stealing those jobs away.
But are ANY of the politicians on either side really ready to do this?
Most are bought and paid for by corporations overseas that supercede the American people and that is something we as the American people MUST address...in other words we really need to look at how we vote. We MUST bridge party lines and start voting out ALL incumbents on a regular basis rather than leaving people in that become no better than robber barons or kings...
We MUST start a revolving door practice in our voting and enact as a people our own term limits. If they served a term then vote them out. If they're good...thank them...if they're bad...thanks for playing...but we can't let the corporations allow the politicians to be so bought off away from us by letting them stay in office a lifetime...
It's a Catch-22.

We want higher wages, but are not willing to give out corporate tax breaks. Every successful corporation spreads their manufacturing out - globally if you will. A perfect example is the 3rd best engine in the world. The Chrysler 5.7L Hemi is and will always be produced in Mexico. Even "American-made" Harley-Davidson imports many suspension parts from overseas - including electronics and forks. It's really beyond politics nowadays - the best you can ever hope for is 75% American-made, and don't look for that in your new car, boat or motorcycle either.

We have no one to blame but ourselves for kicking Dr. Demming's practices out of manufacturing. Japan embraced them and succeeded - it was only then that we (The US) started paying attention to Six Sigma quality procatices.

True story bro'.

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