Where the pilgrims illegal immigrants?

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“ASPIRE 2 INSPIRE B4 U EXPIRE”

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#42
Feb 17, 2013
 
Big Time wrote:
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I was talking about this,
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http://www.topix.com/forum/news/weird/T61UP4A...
Did you tell her that too,..
I remember from somewhere the Dutch leader in 1624 bought the Island of Manhatten for $24 from the American Indians
No problem BT, I think she was just being silly, at least that is how i took her post.
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Feb 17, 2013
 
REDNECK HIPPIE wrote:
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Yes, absolutely, we came to power in this country and just like every country before us and every country created since us, those in power make the rules and those who wish to live there follow or face the consequences.
Say for argument sake that the entire Indian nation turned around and said as the decendants of the indigenous inhabitants we no longer follow your rules and our alliegence is to ourselfs and not you,what then?
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Feb 17, 2013
 
REDNECK HIPPIE wrote:
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Understood, a little give and take in a debate is expected. At least, on here, we are remaining civil, unlike so many on other threads.
Agreed once the abuse and name calling starts I don't bother,like that on on the Lydia or Syria thread,forgotten what it is now,lol

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Krypteia wrote:
<quoted text>Say for argument sake that the entire Indian nation turned around and said as the decendants of the indigenous inhabitants we no longer follow your rules and our alliegence is to ourselfs and not you,what then?
Believe me, I am sensitive to the plight of the native Americans and am disgusted with how they were originally traeted. That being said, they are now American citizens and subject to our laws,albeit they have a somewhat unique arrangement on the reservations. If they chose to attempt to secede, or form their own government, or just not follow the law of the land, I imagine that the federal government would treat them the same way that the southern states were treated, or they would be treated like the cults and militias of today. I don't like or agree with many of the laws passed, whether from national, state or local politicians, but I am fully aware that if I do not follow those laws, i am subject to the consequences of my actions.

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Feb 17, 2013
 
Krypteia wrote:
<quoted text>Agreed once the abuse and name calling starts I don't bother,like that on on the Lydia or Syria thread,forgotten what it is now,lol
Me too, there are a very few exceptions, where I will continue to contribute and just ignore the trolls and negative nellies.
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REDNECK HIPPIE wrote:
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Believe me, I am sensitive to the plight of the native Americans and am disgusted with how they were originally traeted. That being said, they are now American citizens and subject to our laws,albeit they have a somewhat unique arrangement on the reservations. If they chose to attempt to secede, or form their own government, or just not follow the law of the land, I imagine that the federal government would treat them the same way that the southern states were treated, or they would be treated like the cults and militias of today. I don't like or agree with many of the laws passed, whether from national, state or local politicians, but I am fully aware that if I do not follow those laws, i am subject to the consequences of my actions.
Ok thanks for your info,,i always wondered what the situation would be if they just turned round and said actually we have nothing in common per se and we are different too you.lol.
It's like your old confederate states that you hear from time to time people wanting to go back to that,can't quite remember the saying the south will rise again or something or other,lol,can't see that happening.lol

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#48
Feb 17, 2013
 
good discussion,
I am not that well spoken, RH, but I was trying to get to the same thing,
what happened is done (regardless of how wrong it may have been)
and here we are.
this is not the first land overtaken by force/trickery...seems to be the way of man.

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REDNECK HIPPIE wrote:
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We set up towns in a country with no immigration policy or laws, with an indigenous population that had no concept of ownership of the land. Therefore, we were not illegal immigrants.
Contrary to popular belief (the belief of white modern Americans) the Indians did have immigration control. It was called arrows.

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Contrary to popular belief (the belief of white modern Americans) the Indians did have immigration control. It was called arrows.
haha
Well, it seems their immigration control was no better than ours is.
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Close, but no cigar.
She got one from Clinton.

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