I didn't pan anything. I simply said there is no consensus amongst historians. One historian does not make a consensus.<quoted text>dude you panned a reknowned religious historian and all the references he cited sight unseen!
i think we are done here...
but i am sure your two second wiki search made you an expert, huh?
I also didn't say I'm an expert. I also shouldn't have to read a book for him to recite facts that back up his claims. If the things he says are so well known and accepted, certainly, there would be a myriad of sources other than one particular book and only one particular book.
So again I ask, what contemporary accounts of Jesus exist and what do they say? It's a simple question. I don't need to read a 500 page book first for him to answer this.