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Op-ed: The Weird Relationship Between Mormons and Marriage

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#389 Mar 3, 2014
Rick Saintpornum wrote:
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The top one percent controls far, far more of the wealth and income in the US than the top one percent does in the EU.
We weren’t talking about the one percent. We were talking about socialism and your misbelief that school funding is the controlling factor in student achievement. For both of these subjects, you just ran your mouth, cited no facts, and, unlike you, I backed up my assertions with facts and made you look like the complete idiot you are (You’re probably an idiot because you are an anecdotal, whatever that means). Given your poor showing on both these subjects, I certainly understand why you’d like to re-write history and now pretend we were talking specifically about the 1% all along.

Now, if you want to switch and talk specifically about the 1%, I agree that they should be taxed more. We can do that without implementation of a European type socialist system, where not only do the likes of Warren Buffet, Bill Gates, and the Koch brothers, get the shyte taxed out of them, but nearly everyone does, which is what I have been arguing against.

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#390 Mar 3, 2014
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Your claim that a certain percentage of families in the US earn over a certain amount does not speak to where the bulk of all the available wealth is to be found.(In a very small demographic.)
I don’t really want their money. I have enough of my own, that I have earned, and Bill Gates, Warren Buffet, and the Koch Brothers, didn’t stop me. Folks only talk about how much money other folks have, because they haven’t earned enough or they want to create a socialized utopia and they want to take other folks money for this purpose, instead of earn I themselves.

I don’t have a problem with the super wealthy paying proportionately a little more or a problem with the Buffet Rule. I support the Buffet Rule, actually. The problem is, as Europe has shown and indeed democrats have shown, they don’t’ just seek to tax the shyte out of the 1%. Obamacare, didn’t just raise taxes and expenses on the 1%.

Obama would like folks to think that, but it’s not true. So while I think the 1% should pay more in taxes, I’m very mindful of the game liberals play, which is the old bait and switch. Specifically, their game is scream bloody murder about the 1% and then when they realize there isn’t enough of 1%ers to tax the shyte out of to pay for their wonderful socialist program, they hit the middle class too. It's the same thing socialized countries do too.

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#391 Mar 3, 2014
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It's not that "D.C.", or a particular state, spends more or less on education, Jethro. It is what school district and what school spends more per pupil. And there is a very strong correlation between wealth of the school district to spending per pupil to educational outcome.
Can you read, moron? The article I posted said one particular school district in DC spends the most per student in the country and has amongst the worst scores. So, I’m not talking about DC as a whole, but one district. If there is such a strong correlation, they should not be amongst the worst.

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#392 Mar 3, 2014
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If this were not true then parents would not be searching from wealthy school districts to live in, and would not be trying for the richer public schools. But they are.
Or maybe they do this because it is a factor in success, but is not a ”but for” causation for success, which is why the DC district that spends the most per student is amongst the worst in the nation.

I happen to think the fact that folks seek out wealthy school districts has some correlation to success (it’s not controlling, however), not because of the fact that these schools spend money, but more so due to the fact that parents who are going to take the time to make home ownership decisions in part based on the wealth of school districts, obviously place a priority on education and obviously stress it at home and push their kids, and make sure they study, and that is the primary reason why kids at these schools sometimes do better.

However, when you go to inner-city schools, where many kids come from broken homes and homes that do not value and stress education, even when you spend a lot of money per pupil, the kids often times do not perform well. So, the problem here, clearly isn’t money and money clearly can’t drive success. It starts at home, moron. And all the money you spend at school, isn’t going to do much to jack shyte to change what is going on at home.

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#393 Mar 3, 2014
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But none of this speaks to the statistics: There is far, far less income mobility - what we are discussing when we discuss opportunity in a society - here than there is in the EU.
You keep going on and on and on about statistics and data, but haven’t cited shyte, idiot.
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This is fact, but you are not capable of making a fair argument and you are definitely incapable of permitting a conclusion that conflicts with your "beliefs."
If it’s a fact, then instead of running your mouth, cite some sources, dummkopf.
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So you can go do some more "anecdotal."
I’m still trying to figure how I can be anecdotal. I want to be my personal accoutns. If I tell a story about drink a beer, I want to be my story about drinking a beer.

^^^^ You are still in high school is my guess.

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#397 Mar 3, 2014
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I explained you are uneducated, but you were too stupid to look up and verify what I am saying about you is well founded.
You could supply an "anecdote," although your made up stories count for nothing.
You could supply "anecdotal evidence," which is dubious.
You cannot give me or anyone an "anecdotal."
Git ur hom skool teechur on the phone at once.
Give or supply, same difference. One thing I know for sure is that this is not proper English:
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You are anecdotal.
Even a kid who is home schooled would know that.

I’m also laughing, that little puss boi must hide as a gray box. As if I don’t know who you are. It’s funny that I intimidate and scare you into gray boxing, however. <feather in cap>

Did you seek out therapy for PTSD when they canceled the game or did you just cry for a few days?

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#398 Mar 3, 2014
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<quoted text>Whether you say you'd support more progressive taxes has nothing to do with what I was pointing out to your ignorant azz: The concentration of wealth is far higher in the US than in the EU.
That is what you disputed, if you can recall.
I disputed that? Really? I actually acknowledge that it is more equal, right here:
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That's exactly what I said. Everyone is stuck with more equal and by that I mean equal mediocrity.
See, I admitted right ^^^^ there. Do I need to spell it out with sign language too?

It’s not my fault you are too dumb to understand that greater equality when it comes to distribution of wealth is inversely related to a greater concentration of wealth.

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#399 Mar 3, 2014
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Idiot, even if that stat is true it is for one school district. That is not data. That is "cherry picking."
It is true. And you've supplied no data.

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#404 Mar 3, 2014
^^^^ Nothing more than a mouthy blowhard who only engages in name calling and is incapable of citing a single source that backs up anything he says.

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#406 Mar 3, 2014
Rick Saintpornum wrote:
<quoted text>You are namecalling while crying about namecalling. I see a lot of that from stupid tee baggrz types. So mentally weak.

Hey cretin, you lied about what you said. That's the first thing.

You attributed some alleged traits to socialism which better apply to the US, as I explained. You then tried to deny having said that, in fact, you tried to say the exact opposite. But that would then undermine your ignorant hatred of socialism, something you know nothing about and could not even define on your own.

If you would just state directly that you think there's a greater concentration in the EU democracies than ours - and you must be saying that based on your initial posts - then I can rustle up some urls in about ten seconds. But you won't be pinned down, since intellectual slobs and bigots who habituate the Fox News universe never learn anything and never retreat from their ignorance and bigotry and brainwashing.

In the meantime we know - everyone knows - that a very tiny percentage of American control almost half the wealth of the country. So what you ignorantly claimed about your boogeyman of socialism applies far more accurately to your sainted US.
Didn't even read, bro. Type another novel so I can laugh at the waste of effort.
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#407 Mar 3, 2014
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Didn't even read, bro. Type another novel so I can laugh at the waste of effort.
LOL!!!!!!!

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#409 Mar 3, 2014
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<quoted text>LOL!!!!!!!
It is doubly ironic considering the fact that you follow me around topix and read all my posts no matter how long they are.

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#410 Mar 3, 2014
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What else can an uninformed, whining liar do but begin to avoid the content?
Nothing else.
You ignorant, right wing scum always pronounce this and that about "socialism," without knowing the first thing about socialism, and then when you're told your specific complaints about it far better apply to the US you run back to Fox Newsville. After lying about what you ignorantly said.
And this is far from the most disgusting type of thing you people do. That's how trashy you are.
I didn't get past the word "what." Make the next one I ignore twice as long, lil b1tch,.

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#412 Mar 3, 2014
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Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. No facts. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. No citations. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Everything O say is true, because I say it is. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Take my word for it. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Everything said by some guy on the internet is automatically true. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Did I mention that I'm a french model? Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Trust me. Blah, blah, blah blah, blah, blah. You're a big poopie head, and I'm anecdotal and a story.
Yup, that about sums up every post of yours today on this thread.

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#413 Mar 3, 2014
My judge it fairy is more powerful than yours. Good night judge it fairy, whoever you are. :)

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#417 Mar 4, 2014
I never said socialist countries tend to have more concentrated wealth at the top than the U.S.

If I did, given the inordinate amount of time you have spent on this subject and given that proving me wrong is of obvious paramount importance in your life, instead of spending hours on here writing rant after rant, many of which I didn't even bother to read, you would simply take 30 seconds and find the post where I said that.

You can't find such a post, so you just continue to spend hours of your time lying about what I said and continuing with rant after rant.

I understand you're upset and very angry after I cited fact after fact and all sorts of data that refuted everything you said yesterday and made you look foolish. Maybe today you should instead go and argue with other boys who are in the early stages of puberty and you might have better results. I'm sure, being like minded, they will find your moniker the height of wit, intelligence, and creativity, too.
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#418 Mar 4, 2014
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In many socialist countries, you will still have a handful of folks with ridiculous amounts of wealth and some who own businesses with wealth, even if not ridiculous. Then you have nearly everyone else who is pretty much stuck at the same level, because the taxes and cost of living are so high.
In a socialist utopia, with very high taxes....
The above clearly claims that socialist countries have more concentration of wealth than the US, or else you wouldn't have specified "socialist countries" when going on about this concentration of wealth. You could have accurately said, "certain sick countries" or "certain countries including the US," but that's not what you meant to say...because you trade in horsesht.

You later tried to say something different when I pointed out to you the obvious fact that the traits you are attributing to "many socialist countries" actually characterize the US far better.

You also later back tracked on your high taxes complaint here by saying you think taxes should be higher on the wealthy in the US than they are.

You don't know what you're saying, obviously, and you have about zero comprehension of the issues involved, particularly what constitutes valid "data" regarding school funding. Or even how to use the word "anecdotal."

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#419 Mar 4, 2014
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I can only give (or is it supply ... give or supply ... give or supply, hmmmm, I'm stumped ... the English language is so difficult for me), you more long winded nonsense, because, you were 100% correct Sublime, I couldn't find any post where you said the things I accused you of saying. I'm a liar.
Yup.

As soon as I saw your post didn't contain a link to a post of mine, I didn't even bother to read your post, once again.

I love it when some guy thinks he's trolling you, but in reality you are just making him expend an incredible amount of energy and not reading most of his long winded posts. Dance, monkey, dance!
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#420 Mar 4, 2014
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In many socialist countries, you will still have a handful of folks with ridiculous amounts of wealth and some who own businesses with wealth, even if not ridiculous. Then you have nearly everyone else who is pretty much stuck at the same level, because the taxes and cost of living are so high.
In a socialist utopia, with very high taxes and a very high cost of living
I'm glad you are reduced to abject lying about what you said. That means I don't have to argue the merits.

You clearly posted some nonsense about "socialist countries" which applies most demonstrably to the US. Then you began trying to lie by misusing various statistics, troll.(Although I think you actually believe the crp you post is true, because you're a deranged tee baggrz.)

Here's the link, pos:

http://www.to pix dot net/
forum/news/gay/T5QQCNNAFL7HB0L 60/post358

Put it together.
Ayup

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#421 Mar 4, 2014
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Wow, I see this thread sure got dragged way off topic.
That's the way the cookie crumbles here and as we know it also keeps the pages turning. If we stop POSTING REPLY to Rick Sant.whatever... from Pitts, PA .. all his posts will disappear like they've been throughout the boards where Topix is able to catch him. Poor feller can't buy an account on account he can't keep it clean once he's tipped over. If you want to address him just post his name and not his words. Nothing a serious troll hates more than to see their words go POOOOOF. Ain't that right KarmaRickCaptColKernel?

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The Mormons have had some very outrageous ideas and not just marriage, but it's good to see not many practice that way any longer. Why did they change their mind? Did Joseph speak to them from the grave?

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