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Op-ed: The Weird Relationship Between Mormons and Marriage

There are 368 comments on the Advocate story from Feb 24, 2014, titled Op-ed: The Weird Relationship Between Mormons and Marriage. In it, Advocate reports that:

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Independent

United States

#261 Mar 1, 2014
woodtick57 wrote:
bullshit. proven hokum...
You really don't expect anyone to take your word for this do you?

Any credible sources of your own to support your claim?

:^`\

“I will not keep calm”

Level 2

Since: Mar 08

Raise hell...change the world

#262 Mar 1, 2014
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>but your supposedly infallible god did once tell your cult to practice polygamy. why did he change his mind? oh yeah, he was forced to! Just like when your god changed his mind about blacks...he was forced to and suddenly the "Magic" appears! what a tool you are to believe such hokum...you could be sold invisible snake oil....
When we were practicing polygamy there was a purpose for it. The men had died off, the remaining men took more wives to care for them now that they were widowed. That was the original purpose. As for why we stopped practicing it, that is up for debate. Was it simply to gain statehood?? Possibly, but even that could be a part of the big picture. Gaining statehood was important and if that is what needed to be done it is quite possible that heavenly father gave our prophet new revelation.

“I will not keep calm”

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Since: Mar 08

Raise hell...change the world

#263 Mar 1, 2014
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>
.yes, polygamy was what their god originally told them was proper...you know traditional marriage.
the tradition of marriage in most cultures was for women to be traded at a very young age like cattle for the benefit of the patriarch of the family, usually to older men,a s they were the ones with wealth that could benefit the family of the cattl...er daughter.
ain't traditional marriage grand?!?
You do realize that polygamy has not just been practiced by Mormons, it has been a practice of many Christian churches and still is.

“I will not keep calm”

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Since: Mar 08

Raise hell...change the world

#266 Mar 1, 2014
Independent wrote:
<quoted text>
Which Prophet ended the practice, what year did this happen? Was polygamy a part of the church's original teaching?
Battle of the prophets?
I agree on the consenting adults being able to marry as many wives or husbands as they agree upon.
Raising up your daughters just to give them to some sex perv is criminal/wrong/sick......by the cult that practices such.
President Wilford Woodrow issued a statement in 1890 with intent to end polygamy.

https://www.lds.org/topics/plural-marriage-an...

“I will not keep calm”

Level 2

Since: Mar 08

Raise hell...change the world

#267 Mar 1, 2014
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>but it was practiced before your dearth of men, dear..
so sorry you have to lie about your very own cult. what does that say about your...erm..."faith" ...
perhaps you should research when your god gave this dictate to your prophet. why is it that free thinkers always know more about religious cults than those that profess to be members of that cult? oh yeah, knowledge is the death knell of cults.
so sorry for you to have to learn you were lied to over a blog site, dear...seek deprogramming.
I lie for no one sweetness. I have never taken any ones word on anything. Like I said I was not raised in this church, luckily I had a dad who allowed me my own religious convictions and beliefs. I am the only member in my family.
I do not need deprogramming sweetie.

I dare say I am more of a free thinker than even you.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#268 Mar 1, 2014
not ashamed wrote:
<quoted text> I lie for no one sweetness. I have never taken any ones word on anything. Like I said I was not raised in this church, luckily I had a dad who allowed me my own religious convictions and beliefs. I am the only member in my family.
I do not need deprogramming sweetie.
I dare say I am more of a free thinker than even you.
then why did you lie about why your cult instituted polygamy?

hardly, dear, you parrot your cult's talking points in the face of proof just like every other cult member...

why did your cult institute polygamy for real? if you can't tell the truth about your own cult, what can you tell the truth about?

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#269 Mar 1, 2014
not ashamed wrote:
<quoted text> President Wilford Woodrow issued a statement in 1890 with intent to end polygamy.
https://www.lds.org/topics/plural-marriage-an...
your porven false god takes orders from the president...well,m your cult was invented in the good ol US of A...
Independent

United States

#270 Mar 1, 2014
woodtick57 wrote:
yes. every single credible source on the planet as there isn't one single credible shred of evidence for any soul or spirit or magic or miracle...not one. the one you gave was ridiculously absurd.
again, if you believe hokum like that you will beleive anything, like the lie you just posted about your cult.
So, you got nothing.....again.....

:^`\
Independent

United States

#271 Mar 1, 2014
not ashamed wrote:
President Wilford Woodrow issued a statement in 1890 with intent to end polygamy.
https://www.lds.org/topics/plural-marriage-an...
By doing so, he decided on his own to go against the teachings in the Book of Mormon.
It was not decided because God changed his mind. God doesn't make mistakes. Man does.

How is it decided that one is a prophet?

:^`\

3323

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#272 Mar 1, 2014
Independent wrote:
<quoted text>
So, you got nothing.....again.....
:^`\
, like i stated, i have everything credible. you have nothing credible..

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#274 Mar 1, 2014
Independent wrote:
<quoted text>
By doing so, he decided on his own to go against the teachings in the Book of Mormon.
It was not decided because God changed his mind. God doesn't make mistakes. Man does.
How is it decided that one is a prophet?
:^`\
3323
y this one made a mistake...or changed his mind...either one creates a tad bit of a theological conundrum for an infallible god...

and the glaringly obvious fact that he changes his mind to suit the societal pressure of humans... funny kind of god that would do that, huh?
Independent

United States

#275 Mar 1, 2014
woodtick57 wrote:
like the lie you just posted about your cult.
Please do tell.....what was the 'lie' and which 'cult' would that be that you claim is mine?

Your claims of disproving God and Souls are nothing more than that, unfounded claims.
Science disagrees with you and further strengthen my beliefs.

:^`P

“ WOOF ! ”

Level 1

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#276 Mar 1, 2014
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>what soul? there is evidence of any soul or spirit. just one more lie your cult told you. to prey on your deepest fears...
The concept of a soul is not just a Christian idea. It's a common element of many faiths and dates back thousands of years before Christianity. Maybe simply because it's the Truth.

People who don't believe in God will get exactly what they most fervently hope for after they die, which is, NOTHING.
Independent

United States

#277 Mar 1, 2014
woodtick57 wrote:
the glaringly obvious fact that he changes his mind to suit the societal pressure of humans... funny kind of god that would do that, huh?
Once again, It is not God that does this, it is man distorting God's word to fit their chosen life styles. Just as you distort, with no proof of your own, so you can further your own chosen agenda.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#278 Mar 1, 2014
Independent wrote:
<quoted text>
Once again, It is not God that does this, it is man distorting God's word to fit their chosen life styles. Just as you distort, with no proof of your own, so you can further your own chosen agenda.
i clearly do have proof. a supposedly infallible god making clear and proveable mistakes...sorry the god of the bible is just another man made god, just like all the rest, does this surprise you? did you really think it would be any different than zeus or thor? why?

no, this is supposedly the word of god changing. god told the mormons to have multiple wives and then when society pressured him on ithe changed his mind at *miraculously* just the last second!!!! yeah pal...sure..

want some invisible snake oil? i go lots to sell. so does your cult.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#279 Mar 1, 2014
Fa-Foxy wrote:
<quoted text>
The concept of a soul is not just a Christian idea. It's a common element of many faiths and dates back thousands of years before Christianity. Maybe simply because it's the Truth.
People who don't believe in God will get exactly what they most fervently hope for after they die, which is, NOTHING.
Let's review some pertinent history.

http://jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/13933-...

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#280 Mar 1, 2014
Fa-Foxy wrote:
<quoted text>
The concept of a soul is not just a Christian idea. It's a common element of many faiths and dates back thousands of years before Christianity. Maybe simply because it's the Truth.
People who don't believe in God will get exactly what they most fervently hope for after they die, which is, NOTHING.
sure it is. it is scary to think this is the only life you get. but that is what all the evidence shows is true...what other animals do you think have souls? all of them? god supposedly created them also..and insects? same deal. how far up the phyla do you need to be to be special to your god?

so do you think there is a valhalla? why is your cults myths more credible than other cults?

“Happiness comes through giving”

Level 7

Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#281 Mar 1, 2014
not ashamed wrote:
<quoted text> Yes I do, however it does not define me as a person. I am not just Mormon. I am a working mom, a friend, a human rights activist, a lover of people. I strive to raise children who will be giving, loving and kind. A persons religious beliefs should not matter.
I agree that religious beliefs should not matter, unless they get in the way of being a good person, which you appear to be. If you are all the things you say, I don't care if you pray to Godzilla while doing somersaults.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#282 Mar 1, 2014
Independent wrote:
<quoted text>
Please do tell.....what was the 'lie' and which 'cult' would that be that you claim is mine?
Your claims of disproving God and Souls are nothing more than that, unfounded claims.
Science disagrees with you and further strengthen my beliefs.
:^`P
i aassuming you are talking of the abrahamic god and one of his cults.

was i incorrect. as to date, the are no man made gods that haven't been proven false so take your pick.

and also to date, not one teensy weensy shred of evidence to even suggest that maybe possibly there once was a god, gods or goddesses or are any now...

just so we are clear...

now which of these false gods were you talking about?

“Happiness comes through giving”

Level 7

Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#283 Mar 1, 2014
not ashamed wrote:
<quoted text> Of course not, All souls are perfected and restored as they once were in heaven.
I hope that holds true for my mother-in-law.

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