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#970 Jan 25, 2013
General Disarray wrote:
as an Brit looking from a far it appears that Obama is doing a good job, however this may be due to a lack of care about your internal policies from my country and much more about the charisma of the man
Actually he's doing fine...our economy has'nt needed rescueing anymore...we are all just waiting for the shock, when the republicans introduce their GUN CONTROL BILL.....

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#971 Jan 25, 2013
I would post my thoughts about Obama but the topix censors keep telling me not to use those words.

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#972 Jan 25, 2013
Go Blue Forever wrote:
<quoted text>Actually he's doing fine...our economy has'nt needed rescueing anymore...we are all just waiting for the shock, when the republicans introduce their GUN CONTROL BILL.....
I will politely disagree, this time.

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#973 Jan 25, 2013
Hunglo wrote:
I would post my thoughts about Obama but the topix censors keep telling me not to use those words.
Coward.

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#974 Jan 25, 2013
Ferrerman wrote:
<quoted text>Coward.
damn, still won't let me use those words
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#975 Jan 25, 2013
obama is a fool.
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#976 Jan 25, 2013
Hunglo wrote:
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damn, still won't let me use those words
Be creative there are ways around the government censors!....watch this......obama isAnAssHole!...I hate thatFuckingMoron!
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#977 Jan 25, 2013
Now Express Yourself!

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#978 Jan 25, 2013
eternal cynic wrote:
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But, how would his rights be violated? Start with there is no right to use Facebook and continue from there.
she was talking about facebook and she was talking about a judge.....

but a child molester has just as much right to a telephone/bus/P/C as anyone else .... unless he is cruising and the molester has a problem , but the prisoner isn't the molester she is on a new thought about sentence reduction

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#979 Jan 25, 2013
eternal cynic wrote:
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But, how would his rights be violated? Start with there is no right to use Facebook and continue from there.
Freedom of speech?

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#980 Jan 25, 2013
milwaukee69 wrote:
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Freedom of speech?
too general .... pedophile , have restriction and speech is one of them

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#981 Jan 25, 2013
These idjits can extrapolate the right and DUTY to commit sedition out of the 2A but they believe the founders drew the line at Facebook being a 1A right.

Oh.

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#983 Jan 25, 2013
milwaukee69 wrote:
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Freedom of speech?
Freedom of speech guarantees the right to speak freely but does not guarantee access to a private venue in order to speak it. Facebook is a "private venue".

At least this is how I interpret it, the judge may disagree.

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#984 Jan 25, 2013
Ya know INSTEAD of badgering someone's performance.. MAYBE you should put yourself in his position!! Am sure YOU sleep at least 8 hours a night.. The ONLY thing That MAY disturb your sleep is a frozen bursted water pipe.. Obama on the the same subject.. DARES NOT to even think about taking a sleeping pill...because HE IS ON CALL 24/7...With the Country's protection, his children's nightmares needing attention and hid own indigestion..

SO BACK OFF...and LET HIM CATCH HIS BREATH!!!!

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#985 Jan 25, 2013
Hunglo wrote:
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Freedom of speech guarantees the right to speak freely but does not guarantee access to a private venue in order to speak it. Facebook is a "private venue".
At least this is how I interpret it, the judge may disagree.
Wrong.

Freedom of speech is the political right to communicate one's opinions and ideas. The term freedom of expression is sometimes used synonymously, but includes any act of seeking, receiving and imparting information or ideas, regardless of the medium used.

Read: Regardless of the medium used.

The only time you give up those rights is renouncing you citizenship or you are incarcerated (which some prisoners have challenged).

Therefore, apart from certain narrow exceptions, the government normally cannot regulate the content of speech. Associate Justice Thurgood Marshall cogently explained this in 1972:

[A]bove all else, the First Amendment means that government has no power to restrict expression because of its message, its ideas, its subject matter, or its content.[Citations.] To permit the continued building of our politics and culture, and to assure self-fulfillment for each individual, our people are guaranteed the right to express any thought, free from government censorship. The essence of this forbidden censorship is content control. Any restriction on expressive activity because of its content would completely undercut the 'profound national commitment to the principle that debate on public issues should be uninhibited, robust, and wide-open.'

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#986 Jan 25, 2013
milwaukee69 wrote:
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Wrong.
Freedom of speech is the political right to communicate one's opinions and ideas. The term freedom of expression is sometimes used synonymously, but includes any act of seeking, receiving and imparting information or ideas, regardless of the medium used.
Read: Regardless of the medium used.
The only time you give up those rights is renouncing you citizenship or you are incarcerated (which some prisoners have challenged).
Therefore, apart from certain narrow exceptions, the government normally cannot regulate the content of speech. Associate Justice Thurgood Marshall cogently explained this in 1972:
[A]bove all else, the First Amendment means that government has no power to restrict expression because of its message, its ideas, its subject matter, or its content.[Citations.] To permit the continued building of our politics and culture, and to assure self-fulfillment for each individual, our people are guaranteed the right to express any thought, free from government censorship. The essence of this forbidden censorship is content control. Any restriction on expressive activity because of its content would completely undercut the 'profound national commitment to the principle that debate on public issues should be uninhibited, robust, and wide-open.'
Wrong
While the United States Constitution's First Amendment identifies the rights to assemble and to petition the government, the text of the First Amendment does not make specific mention of a right to association. Nevertheless, the United States Supreme Court held in NAACP v. Alabama that the freedom of association is an essential part of the Freedom of Speech because, in many cases, people can engage in effective speech only when they join with others.
In the case of Hurley v. Irish American Gay, Lesbian, and Bisexual Group of Boston, 515 U.S. 557 the SCOTUS ruled that freedom of association determines that a group may exclude people from membership if their presence would affect the group's ability to advocate a particular point of view. The government cannot, through the use of anti-discrimination laws, force groups to include a message that they do not wish to convey. This is the same freedom of association that allows the Boy Scouts to exclude openly gay members, which has also been repeatedly been upheld by the courts.
For the courts to force Facebook to allow pedophiles to become members would impede on it's stated goal of promoting a safe environment and is therefore allowed to restrict it's membership.

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#987 Jan 25, 2013
milwaukee69 wrote:
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Wrong.
Freedom of speech is the political right to communicate one's opinions and ideas. The term freedom of expression is sometimes used synonymously, but includes any act of seeking, receiving and imparting information or ideas, regardless of the medium used.
Read: Regardless of the medium used.
The only time you give up those rights is renouncing you citizenship or you are incarcerated (which some prisoners have challenged).
Therefore, apart from certain narrow exceptions, the government normally cannot regulate the content of speech. Associate Justice Thurgood Marshall cogently explained this in 1972:
[A]bove all else, the First Amendment means that government has no power to restrict expression because of its message, its ideas, its subject matter, or its content.[Citations.] To permit the continued building of our politics and culture, and to assure self-fulfillment for each individual, our people are guaranteed the right to express any thought, free from government censorship. The essence of this forbidden censorship is content control. Any restriction on expressive activity because of its content would completely undercut the 'profound national commitment to the principle that debate on public issues should be uninhibited, robust, and wide-open.'
asking a little child , do you want a cookie, is the same as asking a big adult do you want to make a fast $100..

there are limitations .... Facebook , I have to assume is the same in away as topixs you consent to its publication of thoughts [ this last is for Hunglo] as well

freedom of speech can be tried under verbal abuse ..assault

Verbal abuse is the use of words to cause harm to the person being spoken to....verbal abuse may consist of shouting, insulting, intimidating, threatening, shaming, demeaning, or derogatory language, among other forms of communication.

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#988 Jan 25, 2013
Hunglo wrote:
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Wrong
While the United States Constitution's First Amendment identifies the rights to assemble and to petition the government, the text of the First Amendment does not make specific mention of a right to association. Nevertheless, the United States Supreme Court held in NAACP v. Alabama that the freedom of association is an essential part of the Freedom of Speech because, in many cases, people can engage in effective speech only when they join with others.
In the case of Hurley v. Irish American Gay, Lesbian, and Bisexual Group of Boston, 515 U.S. 557 the SCOTUS ruled that freedom of association determines that a group may exclude people from membership if their presence would affect the group's ability to advocate a particular point of view. The government cannot, through the use of anti-discrimination laws, force groups to include a message that they do not wish to convey. This is the same freedom of association that allows the Boy Scouts to exclude openly gay members, which has also been repeatedly been upheld by the courts.
For the courts to force Facebook to allow pedophiles to become members would impede on it's stated goal of promoting a safe environment and is therefore allowed to restrict it's membership.
The Boy Scouts are a private organization, very similar to a country club - they can and will be selective on who they allow into their membership. Clubs are exclusive - witness Augusta National Golf Club - no women allowed. Facebook is a public forum, very similar to Topix and other forums. As long as you agree to their terms and conditions, no one is limited to a membership. Your statement of promoting a safe environment is a little off - they actually state in their terms and conditions, "...physical harm, or a direct threat to public safety." No where in their terms and conditions is it stated that they're membership is selective other than "Organizations with a record or terrorist or violent criminal activity are not allowed to maintain a presence on our site."

Facebook is an online, non-political, social networking service.

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#989 Jan 25, 2013
INFO: United States Supreme Court held in NAACP v. Alabama

A].....The Supreme Court of the United States (Supreme Court) held unconstitutional Alabama’s demand that the NAACP reveal the names and addresses of all of its Alabama members and agents.

B]..... Alabama (Respondent), demanded that the NAACP (Petitioner), provide a list of all of the Alabama NAACP members based on the state’s foreign corporation registration law

C]... In the domain of indispensable liberties, whether of speech, press, or association, abridgments of such rights, even though unintended, may inevitably follow from varied forms of governmental action

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#990 Jan 25, 2013
milwaukee69 wrote:
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The Boy Scouts are a private organization, very similar to a country club - they can and will be selective on who they allow into their membership. Clubs are exclusive - witness Augusta National Golf Club - no women allowed. Facebook is a public forum, very similar to Topix and other forums. As long as you agree to their terms and conditions, no one is limited to a membership. Your statement of promoting a safe environment is a little off - they actually state in their terms and conditions, "...physical harm, or a direct threat to public safety." No where in their terms and conditions is it stated that they're membership is selective other than "Organizations with a record or terrorist or violent criminal activity are not allowed to maintain a presence on our site."
Facebook is an online, non-political, social networking service.
Facebook is not a public forum, you must be a member to participate, which implies that it is in fact private.

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