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#904 Jan 23, 2013
Bar Fly_ok wrote:
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I understand your frustration.
My sympathy goes out to the millions of people who will lose hours at work because their company doesn't want to pay out for their benefits, hell most can't even afford them anyway. Now they have no choice. Plus add that to the extra money that was snagged out of our paychecks .... it's hurting a lot of people.
It's not so much about Obama wanting to make sure people have health care, it's about how much it's killing the average joe. If you are going to enforce these things on the common worker, make sure that it's a well rounded plan before you start gouging people who are living paycheck to paycheck.
JMO
Things may seem great on paper, but so far it sucks.
Conservatives can't have it both ways, but they try.

Before the ACA was inacted, so many people were calling for a healthcare program similar to Canada's. No that we've inacted a program to insure affordable healthcare to people, they want out. The common worker has ALWAYS had to pay something into their helathcare program. This is nothing new!!!

Most Conservatives were against all the entitlement programs that occurred during the first term. Labeling them nothing more than "government handouts." Now the shoe is on the other foot - you are being forced to actually pay for your own piss poor health requirements. What a surprise that they're the first one's to complain about it.

F*ckin' hypocrites!!!

:o)

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#905 Jan 23, 2013
dragoon70056 wrote:
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So leave it in place to make things even more expensive? That makes sense, in Democratland I guess.
Romney didn't want to appeal it (even though he said he did)? No wonder he didn't get elected.
September 10, 2012

Republican presidential nominee said on NBCís ďMeet the PressĒ Sunday he would keep some popular provisions in Obamacare if he is elected. This marked a radical change from his previous position of repealing the entire law. Just hours later, however, he flip-flopped on that statement.

So, Romney was for Obamacare (when it was called Romneycare) before he was against it; and then he was for it again before he was against it once again.

How in the world could anyone even consider voting for this twit?

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#906 Jan 23, 2013
milwaukee69 wrote:
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Conservatives can't have it both ways, but they try.
Before the ACA was inacted, so many people were calling for a healthcare program similar to Canada's. No that we've inacted a program to insure affordable healthcare to people, they want out. The common worker has ALWAYS had to pay something into their helathcare program. This is nothing new!!!
Most Conservatives were against all the entitlement programs that occurred during the first term. Labeling them nothing more than "government handouts." Now the shoe is on the other foot - you are being forced to actually pay for your own piss poor health requirements. What a surprise that they're the first one's to complain about it.
F*ckin' hypocrites!!!
:o)
Affordable is a key word here, plus every health care program at companies differ. My company actually rapes it employee's and offers very little. I'm battle the insurance company now, they are slow to pay and hem-ha over every charge even though in was an in office visit.
If they are going to make requirements and demands on us, why not make it well rounded so these people who are struggling have a better choices, more variety, and not lose so much of their income.
The middle and lower class people are being skinned.

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#907 Jan 23, 2013
Bar Fly_ok wrote:
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Affordable is a key word here, plus every health care program at companies differ. My company actually rapes it employee's and offers very little. I'm battle the insurance company now, they are slow to pay and hem-ha over every charge even though in was an in office visit.
If they are going to make requirements and demands on us, why not make it well rounded so these people who are struggling have a better choices, more variety, and not lose so much of their income.
The middle and lower class people are being skinned.
The insurance companies would have you by the short hairs regardless of what, how or why you pay.

If everyone had the same health problems and requirements then it would be a slam dunk. Unfortunately, we are one of the most unhealthy nations in the world. Heart desease kills more Americans each year than anything else (yes, even hammers, clubs and knives). There is no alternative to affordable healthcare - none.

What people want is the the ability to decide to carry or not to carry health insurance - they won't say it, but they believe it. It's just like car insurance - why do you think that someone would not carry car insurance?

As evil as it may seem, insurance is a responsibility - not an option, IMHO.

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#908 Jan 23, 2013
their isn't any law that states a co. should have to pay your bills ...

healthcare isn't a god given right

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#909 Jan 23, 2013
milwaukee69 wrote:
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Heart desease kills more Americans each year than anything else (yes, even hammers, clubs and knives).
I'm surprised some Democrat in DC hasn't tried to ban cholesterol.

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#910 Jan 23, 2013
milwaukee69 wrote:
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The insurance companies would have you by the short hairs regardless of what, how or why you pay.
If everyone had the same health problems and requirements then it would be a slam dunk. Unfortunately, we are one of the most unhealthy nations in the world. Heart desease kills more Americans each year than anything else (yes, even hammers, clubs and knives). There is no alternative to affordable healthcare - none.
What people want is the the ability to decide to carry or not to carry health insurance - they won't say it, but they believe it. It's just like car insurance - why do you think that someone would not carry car insurance?
As evil as it may seem, insurance is a responsibility - not an option, IMHO.
And on this point I agree, but put some restrictions on the insurance companies. I just feel the common man shouldn't be put in the hole over this, those tax increases didn't help.
People are already paying peter by robbing paul. I think a scale on your pay should dictate how much you have to pay in. Face it, some people are dirt poor and this is going to send many more looking for welfare to help them out. Plus the added aggravation that even folks who would welcome a chance at benefits are now losing hours so the companies don't have to offer them.
WTF is wrong with that picture? These very people who you want to have insurance are being blocked from getting it.

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#911 Jan 23, 2013
Bar Fly_ok wrote:
<quoted text>those tax increases didn't help.
That wasn't a tax increase - that was a Social Security tax that's always been there - you've just been on "tax holiday" since 2011. Thank Obama for the extra $2,000 (on average) in your pocket for the last two years.

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#912 Jan 23, 2013
dragoon70056 wrote:
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I'm surprised some Democrat in DC hasn't tried to ban cholesterol.
Too late - the fat Nazis in NYC have already tried.

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#913 Jan 23, 2013
milwaukee69 wrote:
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That wasn't a tax increase - that was a Social Security tax that's always been there - you've just been on "tax holiday" since 2011. Thank Obama for the extra $2,000 (on average) in your pocket for the last two years.
lol

Well I need another holiday.

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#914 Jan 23, 2013
milwaukee69 wrote:
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Too late - the fat Nazis in NYC have already tried.
Ah, yes. Good 'ole Bloomberg. I had forgotten he has now taken the lead in telling people what they cannot eat and/or drink.

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#915 Jan 23, 2013
Bar Fly_ok wrote:
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Affordable is a key word here, plus every health care program at companies differ. My company actually rapes it employee's and offers very little. I'm battle the insurance company now, they are slow to pay and hem-ha over every charge even though in was an in office visit.
If they are going to make requirements and demands on us, why not make it well rounded so these people who are struggling have a better choices, more variety, and not lose so much of their income.
The middle and lower class people are being skinned.
Really? I can see why you wouldn't want to mess with success like that!

Sheesh...

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#916 Jan 23, 2013
milwaukee69 wrote:
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Too late - the fat Nazis in NYC have already tried.
Or is it the entire state?

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#917 Jan 23, 2013
dragoon70056 wrote:
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Or is it the entire state?
Alabama needs to take a few cues from NYC.

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#918 Jan 23, 2013
Bar Fly_ok wrote:
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lol
Well I need another holiday.
Precisely, the - are we going to reduce the debt without taxes?

Oh yeah - ban cholesterol, thanks Draggie!!!

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#919 Jan 23, 2013
milwaukee69 wrote:
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Alabama needs to take a few cues from NYC.
Yeah, just what we need. Another nanny state. Have you ever seen the movie Equilibrium?

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#920 Jan 23, 2013
dragoon70056 wrote:
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Yeah, just what we need. Another nanny state. Have you ever seen the movie Equilibrium?
Nope, but have you ever seen Alabama's cheerleading squad?

http://images.search.yahoo.com/images/view;_y...

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#921 Jan 23, 2013
milwaukee69 wrote:
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Nope, but have you ever seen Alabama's cheerleading squad?
http://images.search.yahoo.com/images/view;_y...
Bwahahahahahahahahahahahhaa!

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#923 Jan 23, 2013
tallyho wrote:
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now that was civil so I will talk...
Kodak business was chem/paper , but that is no longer the case...
President Carter put Kodak in a hole with his right of disclosure of trade research ... Kodak spent 7 million one year and was forced to turn over it findings to its competitors ...
people began to buy cheap... kodak lens were precision glass while others were using plastic ..
the world moved from a black /white to color takes more to
develop b/w than color...
there are a few more reasons but you do have a valid point
Iím usually civil in debate unless someone is condescending or obtuse.

Iím very familiar with Kodak and their operations, at least from 20+ years ago. My grandfather worked their his entire career. My dad worked there for nearly 20 years. Most of my family worked there.

Your additional points are absolutely valid. But, I believe their biggest failure was not keeping step with demand. They could have done so much better. News print and printing companies have also failed due to keeping with consumer demand. All of this is tied together with competition from digital media.

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#924 Jan 23, 2013
Go Blue Forever wrote:
<quoted text>We are very lucky...we get it thru my wife's job....less than $100 per month for blue cross/blue shield.....for both of us....
Thatís the portion you pay. Her employer is picking up the rest of the cost.

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