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[Go Blue Forever]

Billy R wrote:

<quoted text>Those are real world figures,I pay way more than $500 a month for each of my employees. How much do you pay for the healthcare for your employees?

What insurance carrier do you have? Those charges are horrendous....Have you shopped around?

[Go Blue Forever]

Ferrerman wrote:

<quoted text>And now they want to say we HAD "...the greatest healthcare system in the world..."
Huh? When? Nice hospitals with excellent staffs... and $200 aspirins... Oh- and ER's full of uninsured people forced to use them as 'primary care'...
Oh! Did I say "forced"????!! Well, no one was stopping them from getting great paying jobs with employer-provided benefits...DUH!
No, it was a great system paid for by those $200 aspirins and taxes like it should be!

My primary care docter, i am sure get's a kickback from every place he sends me for tests....The greed among the lawyers and docters in this country is extreme.....

[Billy R]

Go Blue Forever wrote:

<quoted text>What insurance carrier do you have? Those charges are horrendous....Have you shopped around?

The average, nationwide cost is over $800 per employee, per month. And that doesn't include administering the plan. When you include all of the new healthcare mandates, that figure will certainly rise.

[Billy R]

tallyho wrote:

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before my civil service ... I believe my healthcare was equally matched by my Employer ...guess what they filed bankruptcy
that co. KODAK

I pay 100% of my employee healthcare premiums, but thats pretty rare.

[tallyho]

we have one of the best medical means of care
in the world ....
do you know that our US Navy provides free care for third and old world countries??

and that care is far better than what some of those countries provide

[tallyho]

Billy R wrote:

<quoted text>The average, nationwide cost is over $800 per employee, per month. And that doesn't include administering the plan. When you include all of the new healthcare mandates, that figure will certainly rise.

and then some , that same employer spent $190,000 per year to employ me .... that was in the 70-80

[Captn Morgan]

Go Blue Forever wrote:

<quoted text>My primary care docter, i am sure get's a kickback from every place he sends me for tests....The greed among the lawyers and docters in this country is extreme.....

Yet the dems squashed tort reform - the very thing most responsible for driving up costs - all because they can't pizz off their ambulance chasing fund base. They even tried to elect the king of suing sleaze, Edwards, as Veep.

[Go Blue Forever]

Captn Morgan wrote:

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Yet the dems squashed tort reform - the very thing most responsible for driving up costs - all because they can't pizz off their ambulance chasing fund base. They even tried to elect the king of suing sleaze, Edwards, as Veep.

Pretty sure both sides tend to serve, their seperate and combined, Lord's and Masters.....we need to stop it all.....the dem's did push through, use of insider information for investment purposes.....

[Billy R]

Captn Morgan wrote:

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Yet the dems squashed tort reform - the very thing most responsible for driving up costs - all because they can't pizz off their ambulance chasing fund base. They even tried to elect the king of suing sleaze, Edwards, as Veep.

He is one of the main reasons many doctors no longer deliver babies, all because he pushed a medical theory of his that later turned out to be totally false... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Edwards In 1985, Edwards represented a five-year-old child born with cerebral palsy – a child whose mother's doctor did not choose to perform an immediate Caesarean delivery when a fetal monitor showed she was in distress. Edwards won a $6.5 million verdict for his client, but five weeks later, the presiding judge sustained the verdict, but overturned the award on grounds that it was "excessive" and that it appeared "to have been given under the influence of passion and prejudice," adding that in his opinion "the evidence was insufficient to support the verdict."[7] He offered the plaintiffs $3.25 million, half of the jury's award, but the child's family appealed the case and received $4.25 million in a settlement.[7] Winning this case established the North Carolina precedent of physician and hospital liability for failing to determine if the patient understood the risks of a particular procedure.[8]

After this trial, Edwards gained national attention as a plaintiff's lawyer. He filed at least twenty similar lawsuits in the years following and achieved verdicts and settlements of more than $60 million for his clients. Similar lawsuits followed across the country. When asked about an increase in Caesarean deliveries nationwide, perhaps to avoid similar medical malpractice lawsuits, Edwards said, "The question is, would you rather have cases where that happens instead of having cases where you don't intervene and a child either becomes disabled for life or dies in utero?"[7]

[tallyho]

unbelievable

[Denny Crain]

dragoon70056 wrote:

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Your wasting your time trying to explain business management to an Obamabot.

Sad but true. The same goes with most topics. A liberal will look at a horse and buggy and wonder why the buggy is pushing the horse :)

[Me I Know Notheeng]

eternal cynic wrote:

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That’s no surprise. I would be interested in reading the details.

Actually occurred in an area where I have family. Lawyer and wife, who I believe is a small business owner, last name Lesher.
Some woman accused them of some sort of impropriety.
Topix goes crazy, and people publicly say all manner of horrible things, identifying them by name. I believe the wife ended up losing her business, etc.
Vindicated of all charges.
Filed suit for what was said was about them.
Court compelled Topix to release names of posters.
Mucho money won.
Happened in north Texas. I think Lamar County and heard by a court in Dallas
Sorry to present so much as what I think, but it has been a long while since I read the details..

[Me I Know Notheeng]

Billy R wrote:

<quoted text>Those are real world figures,I pay way more than $500 a month for each of my employees. How much do you pay for the healthcare for your employees?

That is not an unreasonable statement. My husband works for a global corporation with access to all the top name insurance companies, and the amount the corporation contributes for healthcare, which we are now taxed on, is far higher than people realize. I can only imagine how difficult it is for a smaller business.

[Me I Know Notheeng]

Go Blue Forever wrote:

<quoted text>$500 a month, per employee, eh? Are those Fox's estimates? Somebody need's a new provider....Try not to be so coy, about whose side you are on?....lol....

Try, to get, an education...about punctuation and sentence structure, and also. If you have, never owned a company, or, had insurance you really, cannot, dispute any. Figures no matter. Where, they come from.

[Billy R]

Me I Know Notheeng wrote:

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That is not an unreasonable statement. My husband works for a global corporation with access to all the top name insurance companies, and the amount the corporation contributes for healthcare, which we are now taxed on, is far higher than people realize. I can only imagine how difficult it is for a smaller business.

It is amazingly expensive, and even if the employers only pay half that still translated into a benefit worth several dollars an hour (assuming a 40 hour work week).

[dragoon70056]

Denny Crain wrote:

<quoted text>Sad but true. The same goes with most topics. A liberal will look at a horse and buggy and wonder why the buggy is pushing the horse :)

Bwhahahahahahahahhaah!!

:0)

[milwaukee69]

Denny Crain wrote:

<quoted text>Sad but true. The same goes with most topics. A liberal will look at a horse and buggy and wonder why the buggy is pushing the horse :)

Actually, no...we'd just be wondering why harleyhunni is pulling the buggy.

[Me I Know Notheeng]

Billy R wrote:

<quoted text>It is amazingly expensive, and even if the employers only pay half that still translated into a benefit worth several dollars an hour (assuming a 40 hour work week).

The tax on the company paid part along with increased premiums will cost us probably must over $3000 this year. That is a decent used vehicle for my son and his family while he and his wife both go to school. That was a few things I really wanted.
What infuriates me, and people really have no idea, is the actual cost of free benefits we pass out in this country for lifelong welfare and illegal immigrants. I have to be busy for a few hours, but my job puts me in close contact with some of those numbers, and I will share them later today.

[Hoosier Hillbilly]

Denny that was a good one!
But: a conservative will be concerned about the value of the horse as compared to cost, food, lodging, upkeep, eccentric value as opposed to
getting M69 to do it.

PS: or maybe just walking.
Damn that was a good one!

[Taxed Enough]

Barack Hussain Obama and Andrew Cuomo have both vowed to increase taxes. Poop on both of them.