Obama's Delay On ISIS Strategy Leads ...

Obama's Delay On ISIS Strategy Leads To Strange Bedfellows

There are 111 comments on the News9 Oklahoma City story from Sep 1, 2014, titled Obama's Delay On ISIS Strategy Leads To Strange Bedfellows. In it, News9 Oklahoma City reports that:

Politicians and pundits on the right initially rallied around the idea that the U.S. needs to be more aggressive militarily in Iraq and Syria to defeat the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria , which is wreaking havoc there.

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Christian Fumblementalist

Philadelphia, PA

#1 Sep 2, 2014
ISIS in military terms became a nation state practically overnight. It had to get all those weapons from US sources or from US proxies. They couldn't all have been "stolen" Russian and US weapons, as the press has claimed.

Somebodies desperately want more over US military involvement in Syria and in Iraq (and in Ukraine.)

Level 7

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#2 Sep 2, 2014
President Obama is totally correct, why should the U.S. have any set plans to invade Syria?....Why do we continue to THINK, like we are the World's Police? We need to change, how we see ourselves ......
Krypteia

Tunbridge Wells, UK

#3 Sep 2, 2014
Christian Fumblementalist wrote:
ISIS in military terms became a nation state practically overnight. It had to get all those weapons from US sources or from US proxies. They couldn't all have been "stolen" Russian and US weapons, as the press has claimed.
Somebodies desperately want more over US military involvement in Syria and in Iraq (and in Ukraine.)
The US and Britain bombed the crap out of the Serbs (Christians)to protect Muslims,so you would expect us to save Christians from genocide from that nasty disgusting cult.
sandy1

New City, NY

#4 Sep 2, 2014
As usual the wimp in chief is clueless,even the big lib Feinstein blasted him on his no strategy crap. In an interview on Meet The Press,Feinstein stated,"obama is too cautious when he said"the US hasn't developed a strategy. She also stated," this is a vicious movement,and it has to be confronted".
Christian Fumblementalist

Philadelphia, PA

#5 Sep 2, 2014
"As usual the wimp"

Warmongers should be drafted into the armed forces. Not others, they can still sign up on a volunteer basis.
Christian Fumblementalist

Philadelphia, PA

#6 Sep 2, 2014
"The US and Britain bombed"

Whatever is now happening in Syria and in Iraq is primarily the fault of that US, lying invasion. Not to mention the decades of Western meddling beforehand.

Even the mainstream press says ISIS is using US armaments (and Russian.)

You have a deficit regarding "causality."

“*=* Always Thinking *=*”

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Since: Nov 12

Greensburg, IN

#7 Sep 2, 2014
Maybe if we leave them alone they'll forget about us. It's not our country they're taking over it's the middle east-have at boys until you get to some countrys that will plow you under so fast you won't know what hit you.
Wait, why does the US, Britain and Australia have to shoulder the military burden of taking on a foe threatening multiple nations in the Middle East? Sure, Turkey has airbases. They also have airplanesó240 F-16s and F4s. Turkey also has one of the larger armies in the region, nearly 300,000 strong. Islamic State a threat to them? Let them handle it.

And why has the US been arming the Gulf emirates to the teeth? Islamic State has no love for them, and wants their land for their "caliphate," so maybe they can deploy some of that hardware? The United Arab Emirates has 80 F-16s, 60 Mirage 2000, and an actual army. Oman has a smaller air force, but it has one. And an army. As does Qatar. And Bahrain. And Kuwait.

Then there is Saudi Arabia, with over 300 F-15s and over 100 Tornados. And with an army that is 150,000-strong, the ability to provide serious manpower to any anti-IS effort. For comparison's sake, Australia has 95 combat aircraft, total.

How about Jordan? With nearly 80 F-16s and over 100,000 soldiers in its well-regarded army, they'd be a serious force. And heck, Iran has a real problem with IS as well, so why not? Invite them to the party as well.

Point is, there are plenty of actors in the region with the capability to take care of the threat to their stability. Let the US provide drone and satellite surveillance. If some of these countries need help ferrying troops into Iraq, then sure, lug them around in our transport aircraft. Heck, chip in with some additional combat aircraft.

But the time to shoulder the weight of fighting other people's wars is over. Let someone else pay for these wars, and bleed for them, and suffer blowback for them. We've spent the last several decades arming these countries. Now let them take care of their own problems

All we need to do is close the borders, check flights in from other countrys, and burn the terrorists that are in this country already - problems solved.
Is that Obama's strategy?

Since: Oct 08

Alpharetta, GA

#8 Sep 2, 2014
sometimes you can overplan these things.
Krypteia

Tunbridge Wells, UK

#9 Sep 2, 2014
Christian Fumblementalist wrote:
"As usual the wimp"
Warmongers should be drafted into the armed forces. Not others, they can still sign up on a volunteer basis.
Warmongers? To stop genocide?....
lolol

Albuquerque, NM

#10 Sep 2, 2014
Makes sense ......

Ukraine melting down, Syria/Iraq overrun by ISIS and obumbles is on the golf course, at a fundraiser or using teleprompter-1to tell us he has no strategy, no idea what to do. So what happens ? In his infinite wisdom and advice of his oval orifice chicongo 'advisors' he decides to send a drone to Somolia and drop a bomb on some Somalians. Way to go there, our strategic wizard incompetent-in-chief.
LOUD APPLAUSE

Flossmoor, IL

#11 Sep 2, 2014
Hoosier Hillbilly wrote:
Maybe if we leave them alone they'll forget about us. It's not our country they're taking over it's the middle east-have at boys until you get to some countrys that will plow you under so fast you won't know what hit you.
Wait, why does the US, Britain and Australia have to shoulder the military burden of taking on a foe threatening multiple nations in the Middle East? Sure, Turkey has airbases. They also have airplanesó240 F-16s and F4s. Turkey also has one of the larger armies in the region, nearly 300,000 strong. Islamic State a threat to them? Let them handle it.
And why has the US been arming the Gulf emirates to the teeth? Islamic State has no love for them, and wants their land for their "caliphate," so maybe they can deploy some of that hardware? The United Arab Emirates has 80 F-16s, 60 Mirage 2000, and an actual army. Oman has a smaller air force, but it has one. And an army. As does Qatar. And Bahrain. And Kuwait.
Then there is Saudi Arabia, with over 300 F-15s and over 100 Tornados. And with an army that is 150,000-strong, the ability to provide serious manpower to any anti-IS effort. For comparison's sake, Australia has 95 combat aircraft, total.
How about Jordan? With nearly 80 F-16s and over 100,000 soldiers in its well-regarded army, they'd be a serious force. And heck, Iran has a real problem with IS as well, so why not? Invite them to the party as well.
Point is, there are plenty of actors in the region with the capability to take care of the threat to their stability. Let the US provide drone and satellite surveillance. If some of these countries need help ferrying troops into Iraq, then sure, lug them around in our transport aircraft. Heck, chip in with some additional combat aircraft.
But the time to shoulder the weight of fighting other people's wars is over. Let someone else pay for these wars, and bleed for them, and suffer blowback for them. We've spent the last several decades arming these countries. Now let them take care of their own problems
All we need to do is close the borders, check flights in from other countrys, and burn the terrorists that are in this country already - problems solved.
Is that Obama's strategy?
Absolutely perfect post.....

It's good business..........I might add
sandy1

New City, NY

#12 Sep 2, 2014
Christian Fumblementalist wrote:
"As usual the wimp"
Warmongers should be drafted into the armed forces. Not others, they can still sign up on a volunteer basis.
Excuse me,but referring to someone as a "warmonger" when dealing with ruthless killers is beyond stupid and ignorant. Here is more from the big lib's(Feinstein) interview(she makes a lot of good points). Feinstein also stated"They(Isis) crossed the border into Iraq before we even knew it happened". " If the thought of Isis crossing the Mexican border into the US doesn't cross your mind,it should". " I think Isis is a major varsity team". " These are a group of people who are extremely dangerous,and they'll kill with abandon". " It's great to see leaders in both parties(except obama) recognizing the threat of Isis,as well as the need for a strategy".
Krypteia

Tunbridge Wells, UK

#13 Sep 2, 2014
We have caused a lot of these problems to be honest,who now regrets the toppling of Saddam? You know you think your getting rid of a dictator but you never know what it will be replaced with...As you see there's a particular nasty degenerate homocidal genocidal cult there now,would never have happened under Saddam..
Christian Fumblementalist

Philadelphia, PA

#14 Sep 2, 2014
"Excuse me,but referring to someone as a "warmonger" when dealing with ruthless killers...."

Hey right wing morons, you magically skipped over the history of US and Western involvement in the region which stoked these ruthless killers.

By the way, even people who believe the earth is under 10000 years old should be able to count up the millions of deaths the US caused by just its two invasions of Iraq and the sanctions there. But that wasn't "ruthless...."

Now get that draft for all you keyboard warriors set up at once.
Christian Fumblementalist

Philadelphia, PA

#15 Sep 2, 2014
"We have caused a lot of these problems to be honest,who now regrets the toppling of Saddam?"

Who installed Saddam in the first place, genius?

And millions of Middle Easterners rue the toppling of Saddam...who could have been dealt with sooner or later by less disastrous means, well, after Saddam went off the US "rez," I mean. Before then, of course, the US propped him up.

You should learn something one day.
RADIO

Duluth, GA

#16 Sep 2, 2014
If the tax and spend plan don't work, then what else does the liberals have?

Since: May 14

Location hidden

#17 Sep 2, 2014
Go Blue Forever wrote:
President Obama is totally correct, why should the U.S. have any set plans to invade Syria?....Why do we continue to THINK, like we are the World's Police? We need to change, how we see ourselves ......
Look at the mess Obama made in Libya

Maybe he should stay on the golf course?
RADIO

Duluth, GA

#18 Sep 2, 2014
These weapons got there some way. I don't think the Muslim extremists manufactured them. Somebody is making a lot of money supplying them to that part of the world. American taxpayers may have bought many of them.
sandy1

New City, NY

#19 Sep 2, 2014
Christian Fumblementalist wrote:
"Excuse me,but referring to someone as a "warmonger" when dealing with ruthless killers...."
Hey right wing morons, you magically skipped over the history of US and Western involvement in the region which stoked these ruthless killers.
By the way, even people who believe the earth is under 10000 years old should be able to count up the millions of deaths the US caused by just its two invasions of Iraq and the sanctions there. But that wasn't "ruthless...."
Now get that draft for all you keyboard warriors set up at once.
Yawn. Rule#5 from the Saul alinsky handbook?
Krypteia

Tunbridge Wells, UK

#20 Sep 2, 2014
Christian Fumblementalist wrote:
"Excuse me,but referring to someone as a "warmonger" when dealing with ruthless killers...."
Hey right wing morons, you magically skipped over the history of US and Western involvement in the region which stoked these ruthless killers.
By the way, even people who believe the earth is under 10000 years old should be able to count up the millions of deaths the US caused by just its two invasions of Iraq and the sanctions there. But that wasn't "ruthless...."
Now get that draft for all you keyboard warriors set up at once.
You know insulting people because they have a different view to yours just shows that your no better than anyone else and to call people keyboard warriors when you don't know their back ground shows an immaturity from someone who's just an agitator...
Remember when you result to insults people just think your a coward from your computer as well..

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