Gunman's mother kept trials of home l...

Gunman's mother kept trials of home life hidden

There are 798 comments on the The Kansas City Star story from Dec 17, 2012, titled Gunman's mother kept trials of home life hidden. In it, The Kansas City Star reports that:

At the bar, everybody knew her name.Nancy Lanza was the one who, if she heard you were short on cash, regularly offered to pick up the tab at My Place.Two or three nights a week, Lanza - the mother of the gunman in Connecticut's horrific school massacre - came in for carryout salads, but stayed for Chardonnay and good humor.

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#377 Dec 20, 2012
Christian Answers wrote:
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It does not matter what we "believe" - if something is not written in the bible it is dreamed up by a man and therefore unbiblical.
The Bible was written by Hebrew men.

Christian men then re-wrote it to suit their beliefs.

That would also make any band that does a cover song, unbiblical.

Ozzy Osbourne has never performed a cover song - that would make the Prince of Darkness - biblical.

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Chicago, IL

#378 Dec 20, 2012
milwaukee69 wrote:
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Not all forgiveness comes from God. On earth it comes from an individual towards another individual - from the heart and is sincere. Whether religeon is involved or not is irrelevant - people, religeous or not, forgive other people, religeous or not, all the time.
When it comes down to whether a person will spend eternity in heaven or hell - the ONLY forgiveness that matters is the forgiveness that comes from God. Forgiveness from a man is wonderful but it has no eternal effect.

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#379 Dec 20, 2012
Christian Answers wrote:
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It does not matter what we "believe" - if something is not written in the bible it is dreamed up by a man and therefore unbiblical. Cleansing in Purgatory is an unbiblical concept. No amount or kind of "works" will gain anyone forgiveness. ALL FORGIVENESS comes directly from God only.
2 Corinthians 5:6 Therefore we are always confident, knowing that, whilst we are at home in the body, we are absent from the Lord:
8 We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord.
matters what you believe in all walks of life

besides I been on this off the topix thing far too long

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Chicago, IL

#380 Dec 20, 2012
tallyho wrote:
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you need a new book or a new theologian .. nobody not even God forgives future sins..
Jesus Christ died one time on the cross. His one death purchased the forgiveness of ALL sins. If what you are saying is true, He would have to keep dying for each sin we commmit.

Since: Dec 12

Chicago, IL

#382 Dec 20, 2012
tallyho wrote:
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sorry two for sure , God and the one he called MOM
Sorry, but that is unbiblical. It is an idea created by a man.

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#383 Dec 20, 2012
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When it comes down to whether a person will spend eternity in heaven or hell - the ONLY forgiveness that matters is the forgiveness that comes from God. Forgiveness from a man is wonderful but it has no eternal effect.
Extremely erroneous statements. Try reading it from cover-to-cover for a change.

The Bible preaches forgiveness - between men.

Mark 11:25
And when you stand praying, if you hold anything against anyone, forgive him, so that your Father in heaven may forgive you your sins.

Matthew 6:9-15
"This, then, is how you should pray: " 'Our Father in heaven, hallowed be your name, your kingdom come, your will be done on earth as it is in heaven. Give us today our daily bread. Forgive us our debts, as we also have forgiven our debtors. And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from the evil one.' For if you forgive men when they sin against you, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. But if you do not forgive men their sins, your Father will not forgive your sins.

Matthew 6:14-15
For if you forgive men when they sin against you, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. But if you do not forgive men their sins, your Father will not forgive your sins.
NOTthechildren

Pottstown, PA

#384 Dec 20, 2012
Melody_E wrote:
"Supporting the human right to a death with dignity"

CHILD KILLER Adam Lanza did not have a death with dignity or honor. He chose an undignified cowards death as an after thought.

I'm not a fan of suicide but let's face it there are some where suicide IS the only way out. CHILD KILLER Adam Lanza was smart enough to know what institutionalization ment for his daily life, freedom and/or future.

Wether it's the Wall Streeters suicides after the 1929 crash or Japanese civilians/islanders cliff diving after the fall of Japan in WWII there are certain events and conditions that permanently change things FOREVER, there IS the point of NO return. Wether it's an illness or event most realize when they are "done" or things will NEVER be the same. Yes in some respects the platitudes apply never quit or fight to the end. But in the end people know, some how they just know life as they know it is over and DONE with.

People should be afforded the oppurtunity to end things ON THEIR OWN in private with dignity. Instead of frowning on suicide perhaps it's time to look at simply as they decided to end their life. You don't celebrate or demean them. Take it for what it is. This person decided to take their life.

But with the stigma on suicide here especially you have CHILD KILLERs like Adam Lanza. You have the suicide by cop phenomia. Hate to say it if suicide got just a little more respect we might have fewer problems like drug and alcohol addiction, murder suicides, suicide by cop. It is the FINAL option. It is not the only or best choice for most. But for some that should be THEIR CHOICE.

PEACE

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Ashburn, VA

#385 Dec 20, 2012
NOTthechildren wrote:
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"Supporting the human right to a death with dignity"
CHILD KILLER Adam Lanza did not have a death with dignity or honor. He chose an undignified cowards death as an after thought.
I'm not a fan of suicide but let's face it there are some where suicide IS the only way out. CHILD KILLER Adam Lanza was smart enough to know what institutionalization ment for his daily life, freedom and/or future.
Wether it's the Wall Streeters suicides after the 1929 crash or Japanese civilians/islanders cliff diving after the fall of Japan in WWII there are certain events and conditions that permanently change things FOREVER, there IS the point of NO return. Wether it's an illness or event most realize when they are "done" or things will NEVER be the same. Yes in some respects the platitudes apply never quit or fight to the end. But in the end people know, some how they just know life as they know it is over and DONE with.
People should be afforded the oppurtunity to end things ON THEIR OWN in private with dignity. Instead of frowning on suicide perhaps it's time to look at simply as they decided to end their life. You don't celebrate or demean them. Take it for what it is. This person decided to take their life.
But with the stigma on suicide here especially you have CHILD KILLERs like Adam Lanza. You have the suicide by cop phenomia. Hate to say it if suicide got just a little more respect we might have fewer problems like drug and alcohol addiction, murder suicides, suicide by cop. It is the FINAL option. It is not the only or best choice for most. But for some that should be THEIR CHOICE.
PEACE
this looks like your preaching to the choir only to see yourself argue in print

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#386 Dec 20, 2012
Excuse's are like rear ends everyone has one !
disgusted

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#387 Dec 20, 2012
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I agree but how do we know that she didn't have her guns locked up in a safe? That may be why he killed her. He may have had to do that to get the guns from her. Have you seen the new gun safes? They range from about $500 up to well over $1,000. They are huge and very secure! She had plenty of money so I bet she had one of those safes. I know I would if I had plenty of money! He may have killed her in order to get the guns and had he not got guns from her I imagine he would have got some from somebody else. And had he not used guns he would have come up with another way to express the rage built up inside him. It's just sad. I feel DEEPLY sorry for each and every one that was killed. I have cried along with everybody else, especially for those innocent children. But my heart breaks for Adam Lanza, his mom and the Lanza family too. Adam must have been living a miserable life to have done what he did. And I'm sure if he was miserable his mom suffered too.
While it's true that no one knows where they were or how he got them, the smart thing would have been to get them out of the home completely.

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#388 Dec 20, 2012
disgusted wrote:
<quoted text>While it's true that no one knows where they were or how he got them, the smart thing would have been to get them out of the home completely.
So his mom had no right to protection, or the second amendment?

If you had a son that drinks and drives, should you get rid of your vehicle to be responsible?
Obama lied people died

Saint Paul, MN

#389 Dec 20, 2012
Prep-for-Dep wrote:
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So his mom had no right to protection, or the second amendment?
If you had a son that drinks and drives, should you get rid of your vehicle to be responsible?
I suspect if mom was alive she would admit the security of her guns was inadaquate.

Mistakes are made people are killed.

In Hudson Wisconsin a "dad" was enraged with his wife leaving him so much so the "dad" killed his 3 little girls with a knife.

Government has no way of controlling killers with a couple of COPs per 10,000 people.

However school killings can be reduced and eliminated with appropriate security and defensive measures, yes non-lethal defensive weapons (barriers, mace, taser, clubs, mag locks, safe rooms, sally port entries, hardened windows etc).

AND if school staff want to carry a lethal weapon and are sane/trained let them do it.

Airline flight crew are carrying lethal weapons right now.

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#390 Dec 20, 2012
No, but I would take his vehicle away and hide the keys a little better than this woman hid her guns and ammo.

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#391 Dec 20, 2012
Obama lied people died wrote:
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I suspect if mom was alive she would admit the security of her guns was inadaquate.
Mistakes are made people are killed.
In Hudson Wisconsin a "dad" was enraged with his wife leaving him so much so the "dad" killed his 3 little girls with a knife.
Government has no way of controlling killers with a couple of COPs per 10,000 people.
However school killings can be reduced and eliminated with appropriate security and defensive measures, yes non-lethal defensive weapons (barriers, mace, taser, clubs, mag locks, safe rooms, sally port entries, hardened windows etc).
AND if school staff want to carry a lethal weapon and are sane/trained let them do it.
Airline flight crew are carrying lethal weapons right now.
I agree 100% other than the armed personnel in schools. Up here, all of our grade school thru high school locations in the city have at least one D.A.R.E. officer. He is not only there for protection but education as well. A teacher has waaaaayyyy too much on their plate than to also be taxed with carrying a loaded gun around amongst kids.

The example you pointed out about the case in Hudson was unique since he killed them all in their sleep with a knife.

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#393 Dec 20, 2012
Truth wrote:
Adam's stupid mother should be tried in a court in Hartford for a federal offense and charged with manslaughter. She should be held responsible for the massacre as she provided access of a weapon to her mentally ill son against federal law. A minimum sentence of 18 years would do. And no parole please.
Kinda' hard to convict someone with three bullets in her head.

Do you ever watch the news or get it all from Nickelodian?

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#394 Dec 20, 2012
Truth wrote:
Adam's stupid mother should be tried in a court in Hartford for a federal offense and charged with manslaughter. She should be held responsible for the massacre as she provided access of a weapon to her mentally ill son against federal law. A minimum sentence of 18 years would do. And no parole please.
LOL, you're so well informed

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#395 Dec 20, 2012
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The victim or victims of murder are not capable of forgiving the one who murdeed them! There is a "free lunch" as you call it but it cost Jesus Christ death on the cross. Through Him and Him alone ALL SIN can be forgiven. Any other way to forgiveness is UNBIBLICAL. Even if a murder victim was able in their last breath to forgive the murderer, that has nothing to do with whether the murderer will be forgiven by God of not. ALL FORGIVENESS comes directly from God, any other forgiveness does not matter when speaking of whether the murderer will go to heaven or hell.
MOSES was a murderer, is he in hell now?
No, Moses is not in hell;however, neither was he permitted to enter the Promised Land. I am pleased to see you have a 'deeper' understanding of Biblical Scripture.
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Saint Paul, MN

#396 Dec 20, 2012
milwaukee69 wrote:
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I agree 100% other than the armed personnel in schools. Up here, all of our grade school thru high school locations in the city have at least one D.A.R.E. officer. He is not only there for protection but education as well. A teacher has waaaaayyyy too much on their plate than to also be taxed with carrying a loaded gun around amongst kids.
The example you pointed out about the case in Hudson was unique since he killed them all in their sleep with a knife.
Don't get me wrong, teachers would not have to carry anything. BUT if they feel comfortable and are willing to train regularly with their weapon of choice (maybe a taser) an armed teacher would be a good first line of defense against a killer.

Murder of three of his own daughters with a knife. I'll bet they weren't able to sleep while their throats were cut.

Also one was strangled after having being slashed.

A tripple knife murder is just that, except if a gun had been used the case would have made the National news.

RIP kids, you all deserve a safe life.

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#397 Dec 20, 2012
Obama lied people died wrote:
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Don't get me wrong, teachers would not have to carry anything. BUT if they feel comfortable and are willing to train regularly with their weapon of choice (maybe a taser) an armed teacher would be a good first line of defense against a killer.
Murder of three of his own daughters with a knife. I'll bet they weren't able to sleep while their throats were cut.
Also one was strangled after having being slashed.
A tripple knife murder is just that, except if a gun had been used the case would have made the National news.
RIP kids, you all deserve a safe life.
Utah already allows teachers concealed carry.

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#398 Dec 20, 2012
Obama lied people died wrote:
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Don't get me wrong, teachers would not have to carry anything. BUT if they feel comfortable and are willing to train regularly with their weapon of choice (maybe a taser) an armed teacher would be a good first line of defense against a killer.
Murder of three of his own daughters with a knife. I'll bet they weren't able to sleep while their throats were cut.
Also one was strangled after having being slashed.
A tripple knife murder is just that, except if a gun had been used the case would have made the National news.
RIP kids, you all deserve a safe life.
Three kids murdered in Hudson did make the national news.

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