Homeless man is found dead behind gas station

Jun 14, 2013 Full story: The Kansas City Star 38

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“....VETS”

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#1 Jun 14, 2013
huuuuuuuuuuuuum ran out of gas I guess
beatlesinthebog

Auckland, New Zealand

#2 Jun 14, 2013
A regular customer gone...RIP
Storm Warning

De Forest, WI

#3 Jun 14, 2013
One look at the price during Obamaland

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Since: Oct 08

Corfu, NY

#4 Jun 14, 2013
Condolences to this man's family. It looks like he tried to do right. I am assuming it was the Vietnam War that changed him - changed an entire generation of US men.
I cringe at the thought and the stories of what's happening to the current generation of men and women.
And just waiting for the other shoe to drop - draft reinstated.
Vick Torre

Baltimore, MD

#6 Jun 14, 2013
Other countries have bonifide programs to aid homeless people. U.S. mostly only image of helping. I face it to. Not because of alcoholism,drugs,gambling. I have none of those "sins". Just not enough S.S. quarterlys put in before age 65. So I get below living wage. A neighbor has a home given her by her mother. Mine did'nt. My mother suffered mental illness all her life so she would'nt will this home to anyone. This neighbor had an emotional breakdown, lost her job. She was a counselor at a private school for troubled children. Twice my income but mishandles it and often broke. She offered me to move in. She rants on about her daughters not speaking to her. They filed an abuse case on her. She has 2 parrots that attack her. Bite marks on her all the time. Yet she keeps letting them out of their cages. They'll attack anyone. Should I move in, I' m not going to react well when those parrots attack me. She'll probably tell me to leave. So why bother to cohabitate? If she'd get rid of the "free roaming raptors", I' d move in. Those little agressors have another 40 yrs lifespan. Shame that 2 people that can benefit each other is halted by 2 birds.
Vick Torre

Baltimore, MD

#7 Jun 14, 2013
T Turner wrote:
Condolences to this man's family. It looks like he tried to do right. I am assuming it was the Vietnam War that changed him - changed an entire generation of US men.
I cringe at the thought and the stories of what's happening to the current generation of men and women.
And just waiting for the other shoe to drop - draft reinstated.
Agree. I had an senior friend that also suffered from depression. His family seldom bothered to contact him. His younger son did vidit weekly. That man lost a lot to them. He took his savings to invest in his older sons buisness, which failed, do he was out his savings ( and he was an accountant). However, his daughter did help him financially even when not being clise to her father. She paid for his studio apt directly to the management. She never vusited him, rarely called. Still she helped out. Wish my family was like that. And other families to. That would I guess, greatly reduce homelessness. Wheres their religious beliefs? Be a person homeless for whatever reason, that person has a soul. Isn't that worthy a reason to help?
Vick Torre

Baltimore, MD

#8 Jun 14, 2013
Oh, he also raised his kids alone, worked long hours. His wife just left them all behind. So he did the parenting and support. How was he repayed? Abandonement. Only the one son would visit him. And as I said, the daughter at least helped out financially.

“They often call me Speedo”

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#9 Jun 14, 2013
T Turner wrote:
Condolences to this man's family. It looks like he tried to do right. I am assuming it was the Vietnam War that changed him - changed an entire generation of US men.
I cringe at the thought and the stories of what's happening to the current generation of men and women.
And just waiting for the other shoe to drop - draft reinstated.
<<actally it says nothin in the artcle of him being a vietnam vet other than him serving in the army - he could served in germany for all we know>>

<<now id be more apt to key in on the indin reservtion thng as a sorce of his drinkin problems - any indin iv ever met has had some sot of substance abuse probem - not that all indins do>>

<<i had a frend who lived on 192 & 42 sts that was beat up last year for his half of beeer>>

“I know where you are,”

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#10 Jun 14, 2013
Speedo54 wrote:
<quoted text>
<<actally it says nothin in the artcle of him being a vietnam vet other than him serving in the army - he could served in germany for all we know>>
<<now id be more apt to key in on the indin reservtion thng as a sorce of his drinkin problems - any indin iv ever met has had some sot of substance abuse probem - not that all indins do>>
<<i had a frend who lived on 192 & 42 sts that was beat up last year for his half of beeer>>
I agree - although I don't know too many indians in that regard.

“Sing a song of 6 pence”

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#11 Jun 14, 2013
"free roaming raptors" Your sense of humor will serve you well, Vic. The universe is obviously in the process of giving you a life lesson.
These are often painful when we resist them. Once the ego is allowed to retreat then things will fall into place for you.
Eventually you will sit back and look in awe at what you have learned. Then wonder why you fought against it so long.
Why do I say this? Experience. Been there, done that. Best wishes to you.

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#12 Jun 14, 2013
T Turner wrote:
Condolences to this man's family. It looks like he tried to do right. I am assuming it was the Vietnam War that changed him - changed an entire generation of US men.
I cringe at the thought and the stories of what's happening to the current generation of men and women.
And just waiting for the other shoe to drop - draft reinstated.
... Why do you assume he was a Vietnam vet ??? if he was 57 when he died the Vietnam war official end date is April 30,1975 ... or do you assume all homeless are Vietnam vets ... the article said he served in the army no mention of Vietnam ... Do you harbor thoughts about all Vietnam vets ...???... not tryin to be mean just tired of hearing everything bad is because they were a Vietnam vet ...

“... lazy, hazy, crazy...”

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#13 Jun 14, 2013
Speedo54 wrote:
<quoted text>
<<actally it says nothin in the artcle of him being a vietnam vet other than him serving in the army - he could served in germany for all we know>>
<<now id be more apt to key in on the indin reservtion thng as a sorce of his drinkin problems - any indin iv ever met has had some sot of substance abuse probem - not that all indins do>>
<<i had a frend who lived on 192 & 42 sts that was beat up last year for his half of beeer>>
... sorry speedo didn't see your post when i posted ... but we both caught it ... hats off ta ya ...

“....VETS”

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#14 Jun 14, 2013
vets don't go looking for wars... we serve our brotherhood be it Sailor/Aviator/ Marine/Army

if he ignored the help shame on him... if we ignored to help shame on us

“....VETS”

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#15 Jun 14, 2013
thanks E

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#16 Jun 14, 2013
tallyho wrote:
vets don't go looking for wars... we serve our brotherhood be it Sailor/Aviator/ Marine/Army
if he ignored the help shame on him... if we ignored to help shame on us
While I agree with what you're saying, there's too many that get lost in a bottle and ruin their families. This is going to sound harsh - it's much easier to buy another bottle or sit all day at the VFW than it is to do the work it takes to try to learn to deal with the violence they've seen. Also, for the benefit of the doubt, therapy can not always help. My stepfather came back a different man. The VFW had a stool named for him. He was violent, depressed, inappropriate and we had a mother who took the beatings, left us to defend ourselves (she married him when I was 3 and my brother came along a year later)- she should have protected her kids instead of following him from bar to bar. He finally died and we have no communication with her whatsoever, so I guess she's pretty happy now.

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Corfu, NY

#17 Jun 14, 2013
How can any soldier who's seen combat come back the same?
The mind is a very fragile thing.

“They often call me Speedo”

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My real name is Mr. Earl

#18 Jun 14, 2013
T Turner wrote:
<quoted text>
While I agree with what you're saying, there's too many that get lost in a bottle and ruin their families. This is going to sound harsh - it's much easier to buy another bottle or sit all day at the VFW than it is to do the work it takes to try to learn to deal with the violence they've seen. Also, for the benefit of the doubt, therapy can not always help. My stepfather came back a different man. The VFW had a stool named for him. He was violent, depressed, inappropriate and we had a mother who took the beatings, left us to defend ourselves (she married him when I was 3 and my brother came along a year later)- she should have protected her kids instead of following him from bar to bar. He finally died and we have no communication with her whatsoever, so I guess she's pretty happy now.
<<You do realize that it's been almost 40 years since the last combat Vietnam soldier came home, don't you?>>

<<It was more his indian heritage and sit on the reservation all day and drink than it was his time in the Army>>

<<Besides, this guy didn't kill himself - some guy killed him over a half-smoked cigarette and a half bottle of malt liquor>>

“They often call me Speedo”

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#19 Jun 14, 2013
T Turner wrote:
How can any soldier who's seen combat come back the same?
The mind is a very fragile thing.
<<roll call>>

<<Speedo54 - USMC>>

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#20 Jun 14, 2013
T Turner wrote:
<quoted text>
While I agree with what you're saying, there's too many that get lost in a bottle and ruin their families. This is going to sound harsh - it's much easier to buy another bottle or sit all day at the VFW than it is to do the work it takes to try to learn to deal with the violence they've seen. Also, for the benefit of the doubt, therapy can not always help. My stepfather came back a different man. The VFW had a stool named for him. He was violent, depressed, inappropriate and we had a mother who took the beatings, left us to defend ourselves (she married him when I was 3 and my brother came along a year later)- she should have protected her kids instead of following him from bar to bar. He finally died and we have no communication with her whatsoever, so I guess she's pretty happy now.
...You do a discredit to Vietnam veterans ... look up some facts ... during the Vietnam war over two million served in Vietnam almost eight million served in branches but not in country ... Yes war is a terrible thing and to send 18 year old kids to battle is not a ideal way to grow up ... I served my country and received wounds in the line of duty ... spent two years in a hospital and went thru 32 surgeries as of now due to wounds received "in the line of" the percentage of those who came home and became what you are saying is small compared to the numbers ... when i was able to function again I attend collage and received a BA and went on to get my MSW and then worked as a consoler for the "Vietnam Outreach Center" now called "Veteran Outreach Centers" before you condemn all google famous Vietnam Vets they are in all walks of life and hold high positions in every field of employment Senators,Congressmen Doctors and Lawyers actors and authors we are no different then anyone else and the great majority have done and continue to do wonderful things for this country ... To group us into such a broad category a slap in the face ... To this very day I continue to do work with the "Wounded Warrior Project" helping returning vets who suffer from PTSD and TBI ... Many WW2 and Korean veterans are included some of which served over five years in combat and came home had families and were called "The Greatest Generation" we don't look for any favors we did what we did because we choose to ...Only the Army were drafted all others joined with the exception of the USMC who would recruit from the draftees in times of need only ... Many people suffer from mental illness and drug and alcohol addiction but there is help for them just as there is help for veterans ... Have you reached out to your mother or just blame her next time you speak of veterans try speaking of the good they did and still do like the man said "war is hell" there are many vet centers go tell them of your experience and get involved. The media started all this "crazy vet" there was a time all you seen was Vietnam vets being portrayed as the bad guys from tv to movies it's just not so ... Next time you meet a vet tell him thank you it's because of them you are able to post freely on topix uncensored we protected your rights ...

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#21 Jun 14, 2013
Speedo54 wrote:
<quoted text>
<<roll call>>
<<Speedo54 - USMC>>
... GMGMIKE USN(RET.)...

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