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<quoted text>Actually on Offbeat, everything IS a rep/dem narrative. They don't care how many children die as long as they have 2A rights. Some even think they are allowed to revolt in the event of a colored president!
But, I digress. There is big money in cancer, primarily in treatment but, the thought process of state and local government is also "tax, tax, TAX!" Cigarettes are a prime example but sodas are a more recent one. Smoking may be bad for folks but it's a money maker for the states. So they don't *really* want people to quit. And certain corporations are making billions off of foods that cause cancer.
I'd say the majority on this forum lean more to the right.

And that would be Monsanto and all the genetically modified fake shite people consume everyday.

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Jan 28, 2013
 
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There is no cure for cancer...it can only be treated or managed after you get it...
There are some things you need to know about this subject that I will share with you over the next few months...time permitting...
I previously left a bunch of writings on this subject, on here, on some thread..but lost track of it, or it got deleted...
Cause some poster probablly found entertainment more important than fact....
I'm not in the mood or mindset to divulge what I know about the cancer research fraud right now...but starting this thread so that in the future, when I am in the mood...I can open many peoples eyes up to a lot of misinformation...
People have been getting rich, off of your misfortune...
Labs, charities, ect ect...
There is no 'cure'...only treatment...and I'll explain why in future posts...
Even Lance Armstrongs organization knows this...that's why they changed their name...
To be continued...
to give up hope is a death sentence for sure. i would never throw in the towel and most importantly listen to some idiot such as urself. stop posting this crap!
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to give up hope is a death sentence for sure. i would never throw in the towel and most importantly listen to some idiot such as urself. stop posting this crap!
Fuhgedaboutit! The dude's Lost In Space.

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Jan 28, 2013
 
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Even Jerry Lewis and his Muscular Dystrophy telethons are raking in Millions over the years to get a few rich...
Muscular Dystrophy is not a cancer. You're skipping over a miriad of subjects to try and bolster your "claims."

The Muscular Dystrophy Association is dedicated to curing muscular dystrophy, ALS, and related diseases by funding worldwide research. Just because there hasn't been developed a cure, doesn't make it a scam.

I give a lot of money to Children's Hospital of Greater Milwaukee. I have good reasons why I do - they helped save my grandson's life when he was born. My dollars, however go to a very different area in the hospital - the Critical Care Unit. On this floor, there are housed no less than 15-20 children from around the country at a time. They each have their own deseases and afflictions - but they do have one thing in common - none will make it out of the hospital alive - the floor has less than a 1% survival rate. But yet I give my charity dollars to them so that they can make these kid's lives at least enjoyable during their last minutes on earth.

So in the end - charitable organizations - even hospitals - are not sources of cures - treatments yes - cures not so much. Treatment and comfort is sometimes all we can offer as donors. If it were that easy to cure deseases, this year's flu season would've not been such a big issue.

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Jan 28, 2013
 
Time and Space wrote:
There is no cure for cancer...it can only be treated or managed after you get it...
There are some things you need to know about this subject that I will share with you over the next few months...time permitting...
I previously left a bunch of writings on this subject, on here, on some thread..but lost track of it, or it got deleted...
Cause some poster probablly found entertainment more important than fact....
I'm not in the mood or mindset to divulge what I know about the cancer research fraud right now...but starting this thread so that in the future, when I am in the mood...I can open many peoples eyes up to a lot of misinformation...
People have been getting rich, off of your misfortune...
Labs, charities, ect ect...
There is no 'cure'...only treatment...and I'll explain why in future posts...
Even Lance Armstrongs organization knows this...that's why they changed their name...
To be continued...
Actually that's not necessarily true.

There are cures for some types of cancer. Testicular cancer, when caught early is extremely sy=urvivable. Similarly, breast cancer is survivable.

Metastatic melanoma, lung cancer, pancreatic cancer, and esophageal cancer are often death sentences, with the result that cancer will kill 569,490 people in the United States this year, projects the American Cancer Society. But there is a glimmer of hope in this bleak picture.

Some cancers are curable. Almost 90 percent of children with the most common form of pediatric leukemia will be cured; women whose estrogen-receptor-positive cancer responds to tamoxifen or aromatase inhibitors will often be truly rid of their disease, as will women with HER2-positive breast cancer, which responds to herceptin. Other cancers are treatable, in the sense that although patients have to take drugs for the rest of their lives (as diabetics must take insulin forever), at least they’re alive and healthy. The best example of a treatable cancer is CML (chronic myelogenous leukemia), which can be held in check by Gleevec and related drugs. Indianapolis Colt's Coach Chuck Pagano is recovering from this cancer - he actually returned at the end of the season to coach his team from the sidelines.

Although the search for a cancer cure has long centered on discovering new drugs, astonishing advances in pediatric leukemia have come with drugs that were developed from the 1950s to the 1970s. In the 1960s, the cure rate for ALL (acute lymphoblastic leukemia, the most common childhood form) was 5 percent, says oncologist Ching-Hon Pui of St. Jude Children’s Research Hospital in Memphis. The reason it is now 90 percent lies in how those drugs are given and how patients are cared for.

90% survivability is hardly what I'd call "fraudulent."

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Jan 28, 2013
 
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Illness has become a marketable industry, not just in America, but around the world...
The quickest way to get rich is to start your own charity in the name of some illness...
I definitely agree with you! What I've noticed too that really disgusts me is that the medication and treatment for all fatal diseases is so astronomically expensive. Take HIV for instance, I had a friend who suffered from it and his pills were insanely expensive. I can't imagine they really cost that much to make.

The bankers and the elitists who attempt to control and run this world, are looking to depopulate. Many people think that sounds like conspiracy nut type thinking, but it's true. Many such people have even been quoted on it. Less people makes us easier to control, and cancer along with other illnesses keeps the death tolls higher and the money raking in.

Any type of service or medicine that people can't go without is ALWAYS priced insanely high. Even medicine for addiction treatment like Suboxone. Without insurance you can end up paying $600 for a 30 day script. Why? Not because they are expensive to make but because they know people desperately need this medicine to function. It's sickening.

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Jan 28, 2013
 
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I definitely agree with you! What I've noticed too that really disgusts me is that the medication and treatment for all fatal diseases is so astronomically expensive. Take HIV for instance, I had a friend who suffered from it and his pills were insanely expensive. I can't imagine they really cost that much to make.
The bankers and the elitists who attempt to control and run this world, are looking to depopulate. Many people think that sounds like conspiracy nut type thinking, but it's true. Many such people have even been quoted on it. Less people makes us easier to control, and cancer along with other illnesses keeps the death tolls higher and the money raking in.
Any type of service or medicine that people can't go without is ALWAYS priced insanely high. Even medicine for addiction treatment like Suboxone. Without insurance you can end up paying $600 for a 30 day script. Why? Not because they are expensive to make but because they know people desperately need this medicine to function. It's sickening.
It would probably make a lot more sense if you were an employee of Phizer.

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Jan 28, 2013
 
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Muscular Dystrophy is not a cancer. You're skipping over a miriad of subjects to try and bolster your "claims."
The Muscular Dystrophy Association is dedicated to curing muscular dystrophy, ALS, and related diseases by funding worldwide research. Just because there hasn't been developed a cure, doesn't make it a scam.
I give a lot of money to Children's Hospital of Greater Milwaukee. I have good reasons why I do - they helped save my grandson's life when he was born. My dollars, however go to a very different area in the hospital - the Critical Care Unit. On this floor, there are housed no less than 15-20 children from around the country at a time. They each have their own deseases and afflictions - but they do have one thing in common - none will make it out of the hospital alive - the floor has less than a 1% survival rate. But yet I give my charity dollars to them so that they can make these kid's lives at least enjoyable during their last minutes on earth.
So in the end - charitable organizations - even hospitals - are not sources of cures - treatments yes - cures not so much. Treatment and comfort is sometimes all we can offer as donors. If it were that easy to cure deseases, this year's flu season would've not been such a big issue.
Although I agree that some diseases are used as money making rackets, I also sympathize with your story and think what you are doing is wonderful. I think that the government is at fault. Of course some charities out there are not that charitable, but MANY are! It sounds like you truly know where your money is going and I think that what you are doing is a greatly compassionate and beautiful thing.
I think that we should all help out reputable charities when we can, whether or not the afflicted will survive. I'm just appalled at the expense monetarily that is unloaded onto these already beaten down people. I feel that the elitists and the bankers ( bilderburg group etc) would not like to see these diseases cured, but I am sure that the average doctor or scientist would love nothing more.
You are a wonderful person to help the families and children in this particular section of the hospital. Little comforts can mean all the difference to someone at a time like that. I am so glad that your Grandson survived, what a miracle. Godbless!
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Jan 28, 2013
 
There are enough chemicals/additives and toxins in the air, water and food supply that may cause a number of cancers today. We all carry the gene for cancer. In some families, it seems to be hereditary. One of my hub's close friends family had a history of colon cancer. He got the disease in his mid fifties and died within 6 months. Whether any one of us will get cancer is not certain, but it seems that a history of certain types of cancers in families may be the reason. For others, it could be environmental or lifestyle choices like smoking. Most important is having a healthy and strong immune system. Unfortunately, as we age, so does our immune system, making us susceptible to all kinds of things. Just the same, eating healthy, getting enough sleep, keeping fit and refraining from extreme stress can be very beneficial. Even so, no matter how healthy a person may be, the risk for cancer still exists. My mother had breast cancer. Had a double mastectomy - no chemo, and survived. She has been cancer-free for 12 years. One of my aunts said she refuses to believe my mother ever had cancer to start with. My mother went to a specialist who was from India and for some reason, my aunt did not trust his opinion. The tests showed calcium deposits in my mother's breast tissue and that was suppose to indicate the presence of cancer in that area. My mother then had surgery to remove the right breast. A year later, she had some discomfort in the left breast and she had to have that one removed also. She still gets phantom pains from time to time but otherwise, is ok. As to whether cancer is big business, that I have no doubt, but some cures have been found for certain kinds of cancers. Some cancers are very slow growing and if discovered early, can be treated and/or cured. Other types are very progressive and those can be very difficult if not impossible to treat and cure.

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There are enough chemicals/additives and toxins in the air, water and food supply that may cause a number of cancers today. We all carry the gene for cancer. In some families, it seems to be hereditary. One of my hub's close friends family had a history of colon cancer. He got the disease in his mid fifties and died within 6 months. Whether any one of us will get cancer is not certain, but it seems that a history of certain types of cancers in families may be the reason. For others, it could be environmental or lifestyle choices like smoking. Most important is having a healthy and strong immune system. Unfortunately, as we age, so does our immune system, making us susceptible to all kinds of things. Just the same, eating healthy, getting enough sleep, keeping fit and refraining from extreme stress can be very beneficial. Even so, no matter how healthy a person may be, the risk for cancer still exists. My mother had breast cancer. Had a double mastectomy - no chemo, and survived. She has been cancer-free for 12 years. One of my aunts said she refuses to believe my mother ever had cancer to start with. My mother went to a specialist who was from India and for some reason, my aunt did not trust his opinion. The tests showed calcium deposits in my mother's breast tissue and that was suppose to indicate the presence of cancer in that area. My mother then had surgery to remove the right breast. A year later, she had some discomfort in the left breast and she had to have that one removed also. She still gets phantom pains from time to time but otherwise, is ok. As to whether cancer is big business, that I have no doubt, but some cures have been found for certain kinds of cancers. Some cancers are very slow growing and if discovered early, can be treated and/or cured. Other types are very progressive and those can be very difficult if not impossible to treat and cure.
u could say All kinds of health issues are big business.
it doesnt make it wrong, doctors and research labs cant do it for nothing.
theres profit in every job out there, and sooner or later somebody will need the product, health care system is no different. i guess u could say its a necessary evil..

i for one am glad there are people out there to help.
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Jan 28, 2013
 
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u could say All kinds of health issues are big business.
it doesnt make it wrong, doctors and research labs cant do it for nothing.
theres profit in every job out there, and sooner or later somebody will need the product, health care system is no different. i guess u could say its a necessary evil..
i for one am glad there are people out there to help.
Believe me, I'm grateful there are people who are trained in the business of helping others. Unfortunately, there always lurks some unscrupulous dishonest people in every field of business in this world and that includes healthcare, and it is often legitimate. Just look at the cost of healthcare and insurance. It all trickles down into the pockets of the most highly professional and trained specialists and drug companies. Then there are the scam artists who make false claims about a product or service, hoping they can profit off of some unfortunate and desperate people looking for a cure and remedy. Money can't buy everything or even your health, but you have a better chance then someone without any money or insurance. Just the same, most insurance companies don't cover everything. You have better options if you can afford the best insurance that money can buy, which is what our top politicians afforded.

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Believe me, I'm grateful there are people who are trained in the business of helping others. Unfortunately, there always lurks some unscrupulous dishonest people in every field of business in this world and that includes healthcare, and it is often legitimate. Just look at the cost of healthcare and insurance. It all trickles down into the pockets of the most highly professional and trained specialists and drug companies. Then there are the scam artists who make false claims about a product or service, hoping they can profit off of some unfortunate and desperate people looking for a cure and remedy. Money can't buy everything or even your health, but you have a better chance then someone without any money or insurance. Just the same, most insurance companies don't cover everything. You have better options if you can afford the best insurance that money can buy, which is what our top politicians afforded.
agree - also a doctor told me that a good positive attitude helps too. i really believe thats true, although i admit it not always easy, but if a person is depressed, it just takes a bigger toll on their health and well being.
i can do it - is better than saying i cant or wont try. if nothing else, u will go out in style..
i think so anyway.
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Like anything in Life, if it sounds too good to be True, then it's a sham...HOW many years of Cancer research and various diseases have we been researching to FIND A CURE!!.. It is CURE-ABLE even?? The Govt had research sites to find cures for viruses, so WHY haven't they overtaken the Cancer Research labs also??. WHY Are independent businesses allowed to do so, creating and marketing products to help heal your present I'll condition.. AND with each medication dispensed.
Their is a pamphlet attached that is a NOVEL in character... that States the SIDE EFFECTS while using this drug to cure WHAT ails ya...HOW can these companies GET AWAY with this?? Money talks.. YOU FREAKIN' KNOW IT!! Affording health or dental insurance is NOT the issue. It's the price of the office visit, the price of "needed" tests and hospital costs.
THAT'S WHERE... it hits your pocketbook. That's WHY folks don't have said insurances..
And have to attend local city health depts...for less payment charges..the same taxpayer WHO cannot afford hid own family's health insurance.. is PAYING for the Politicians Health insurance by paying their salaries... NO WIN situation for the poor.
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agree - also a doctor told me that a good positive attitude helps too. i really believe thats true, although i admit it not always easy, but if a person is depressed, it just takes a bigger toll on their health and well being.
i can do it - is better than saying i cant or wont try. if nothing else, u will go out in style..
i think so anyway.
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Your so right. A positive attitude is essential in this world, and I agree, that's not easy. For some of the most destitute and unfortunate of our society, that must be a high mountain to climb. I try to count my blessings every day. We can never know to what degree of strength we possess, until we're confronted with the worst possible scenario. Keep that positive attitude and hopefully it rubs off on others as well.:)
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Jan 28, 2013
 
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agree - also a doctor told me that a good positive attitude helps too. i really believe thats true, although i admit it not always easy, but if a person is depressed, it just takes a bigger toll on their health and well being.
i can do it - is better than saying i cant or wont try. if nothing else, u will go out in style..
i think so anyway.
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I've recently read articles discounting the value of a positive attitude in fighting an illness. Really. How COULD that be a bad thing? I'm not saying a positive attitude could cure any disease but, it can't possibly hurt someone's ability to deal better with an illness. I guess the dilemma for some might be they can't profit from it!

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<quoted text>Actually on Offbeat, everything IS a rep/dem narrative. They don't care how many children die as long as they have 2A rights. Some even think they are allowed to revolt in the event of a colored president!
But, I digress. There is big money in cancer, primarily in treatment but, the thought process of state and local government is also "tax, tax, TAX!" Cigarettes are a prime example but sodas are a more recent one. Smoking may be bad for folks but it's a money maker for the states. So they don't *really* want people to quit. And certain corporations are making billions off of foods that cause cancer.
Please don't resist me...cause I'm always right...

Fighting Cancer...the money raised for it...have made a few rich and wealthy...

And have left the rest sick to die...

Cancer cannot be cured...only treated by a case by case bases...

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<quoted text>No worse than the POS politicians who are running things.
Actually there is a 'cure' for both.
It's already been found but there's too much money involved to change current policies.
Greed is the root of all evil!

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Greed is the inordinate (unregulated) desire to possess wealth, goods, or objects of abstract value with the intention to keep it for one's self, [[ far beyond the dictates of basic survival and comfort ]]. It is applied to a markedly high desire for and pursuit of wealth, status, and power.

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Greed is the inordinate (unregulated) desire to possess wealth, goods, or objects of abstract value with the intention to keep it for one's self,[[ far beyond the dictates of basic survival and comfort ]]. It is applied to a markedly high desire for and pursuit of wealth, status, and power.
oh come on Hoosier - u actually think that every doctor, every research lab etc etc connected with the hope of finding a cure for cancer out there - is in it for the almighty dollar!

do u think that none of these people could possibly have a family member who has passed away from this? could it be that Maybe that is the reason why they dedicate their lives to this cause???

could it be that there are so many different types of cancer out there, so many different variables that need to be considered for finding a cure for that particular type?
could it be that maybe the people who do die of cancer, maybe just maybe they ignored any signs that might very well have helped prolong their life, had they gone and had it checked out earlier?

don't get me wrong, i understand how frustrating it all is and can understand why this frustration may make someone feel its "a business" and I too feel angry that even after all of these years, this disease still is a threat to our society.. but there has been some very good progress made in fighting it and I firmly believe one day they will find the answer to all of it.

And I don't believe for One minute that accusing all of these hard working people who are involved in the cancer society should be called "frauds"

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