Do you believe spanking a child over ...
Jan

Alkmaar, Netherlands

#194 Oct 15, 2014
Chilli J wrote:
There's no reason for a child's bum to be bare, or for any object to be used for the spanking and when "discipline" by spanking leaves lasting welts on the child's bum, legs or thighs, it's abuse.
No its not abuse I don't leave any marks on the bottom and yes I do spank bare but you can see the results (red bottom).
otk4u

Lane Cove, Australia

#195 Oct 29, 2014
In my opinion spanking with implements eg. wooden paddles, hairbrushes, canes and belts etc. is child abuse. In your own words you stated that child abuse is, among other things, when you leave bruises. Well trust me, you put a child over your knee and spank them on their bare bottom with an implement such as a paddle, I guarantee you're going to create bruising.

I firmly believe that over the knee spanking is an effective and appropriate means of punishment for a child. However, I don't see the need to bare the bottom unless of course you're trying to add humiliation into the process (that in itself in my opinion is child abuse). To me, the baring of a child's bottom for a spanking is done for the benefit of the sicko that does it. The thickness of a pair of panties will not make any difference to how the spanking feels to the child. A sound hand spanking over the panties will generate ample pain to get the message across.

I have two daughters one 11 and the other 13. On the very few occasions that I have had to spank them it has always been over my knee with dress raised and spanked over their panties firmly and briskly with my hand. This has always been an effective method for me.
sadists

Flossmoor, IL

#196 Oct 29, 2014
What kind of fcukin kids you raising.
fcukin foreigners!

You don't even know.......you've lost control
I am not a Bimbo

United States

#197 Oct 29, 2014
otk4u wrote:
In my opinion spanking with implements eg. wooden paddles, hairbrushes, canes and belts etc. is child abuse. In your own words you stated that child abuse is, among other things, when you leave bruises. Well trust me, you put a child over your knee and spank them on their bare bottom with an implement such as a paddle, I guarantee you're going to create bruising.
I firmly believe that over the knee spanking is an effective and appropriate means of punishment for a child. However, I don't see the need to bare the bottom unless of course you're trying to add humiliation into the process (that in itself in my opinion is child abuse). To me, the baring of a child's bottom for a spanking is done for the benefit of the sicko that does it. The thickness of a pair of panties will not make any difference to how the spanking feels to the child. A sound hand spanking over the panties will generate ample pain to get the message across.
I have two daughters one 11 and the other 13. On the very few occasions that I have had to spank them it has always been over my knee with dress raised and spanked over their panties firmly and briskly with my hand. This has always been an effective method for me.
"A sound hand spanking over the panties will generate ample pain to get the message across."

And what message is that?
A Noted Ferrerman

Dayton, OH

#198 Oct 29, 2014
I like spanking little boys!
I am not a Bimbo

United States

#199 Oct 29, 2014
otk4u wrote:
In my opinion spanking with implements eg. wooden paddles, hairbrushes, canes and belts etc. is child abuse. In your own words you stated that child abuse is, among other things, when you leave bruises. Well trust me, you put a child over your knee and spank them on their bare bottom with an implement such as a paddle, I guarantee you're going to create bruising.
I firmly believe that over the knee spanking is an effective and appropriate means of punishment for a child. However, I don't see the need to bare the bottom unless of course you're trying to add humiliation into the process (that in itself in my opinion is child abuse). To me, the baring of a child's bottom for a spanking is done for the benefit of the sicko that does it. The thickness of a pair of panties will not make any difference to how the spanking feels to the child. A sound hand spanking over the panties will generate ample pain to get the message across.
I have two daughters one 11 and the other 13. On the very few occasions that I have had to spank them it has always been over my knee with dress raised and spanked over their panties firmly and briskly with my hand. This has always been an effective method for me.
What would you Local perverts do without your ip changer?

“So it's not you, It's them?”

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#200 Oct 29, 2014
otk4u wrote:
In my opinion spanking with implements eg. wooden paddles, hairbrushes, canes and belts etc. is child abuse. In your own words you stated that child abuse is, among other things, when you leave bruises. Well trust me, you put a child over your knee and spank them on their bare bottom with an implement such as a paddle, I guarantee you're going to create bruising.
I firmly believe that over the knee spanking is an effective and appropriate means of punishment for a child. However, I don't see the need to bare the bottom unless of course you're trying to add humiliation into the process (that in itself in my opinion is child abuse). To me, the baring of a child's bottom for a spanking is done for the benefit of the sicko that does it. The thickness of a pair of panties will not make any difference to how the spanking feels to the child. A sound hand spanking over the panties will generate ample pain to get the message across.
I have two daughters one 11 and the other 13. On the very few occasions that I have had to spank them it has always been over my knee with dress raised and spanked over their panties firmly and briskly with my hand. This has always been an effective method for me.
Whether you intend to discipline a child by spanking his or her underwear clad or bare bottom, that form of spanking demeans and embarrasses the child. It's a sick power trip some parents take that emotionally damages their child.

Spotted Girl

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Spotted World

#201 Oct 29, 2014
A question to ask is if it arouses the spanker getting to touch a child's bare bottom. If it does, then the child probably should be taken. But to answer the question and assuming it is only spanking, and not molestation, no, I don't consider it abuse for the most part, unless it is done for every least thing or done for no reason.

Children should be disciplined, and in a way that is appropriate for them. For a sensitive child, a harsh look is enough. A lot of times, practical punishment is the best. If you spill something, the punishment should be cleaning it up, not a spanking. But if you refuse to clean it up, spit on the parent, cuss them out, etc., then that is time for a spanking. In other words, constructive discipline should be for childish, careless, or forgetful acts, while corporal punishment is for rebellious or deliberately destructive acts (towards others or to other people's property, I mean, if you break your own toys in anger, why spank for that when the punishment is inherent in breaking them?- just don't replace them, at least not without work or a fine).

Also, I say don't spank for things which weren't first taught. I mean, if you pass a water tower and your first grader reads what is on it when they never heard such language, then I believe that needs a stern warning. But, if they say it again, then that may be time for a swat to the bottom. For profanity and rude words, I believe the first time deserves just a warning, since they didn't know it was bad.

Now, I don't agree in going to the prudish extreme on things. For instance, I believe that teaching about the body should start while young. And that just means being honest and using the correct words for things. I don't mean teaching them about the actual act of sexual congress, but teaching them all the correct terminology and explaining in simple terms what things are for. There is no need to teach shame, but do teach appropriate behavior, like not exposing oneself in public and not groping, and at the age-appropriate time. I mean, a 2-year-old cannot appreciate that they are naked, and pulling on mom's breasts could be considered appropriate at that age. But if they are 4, they should know better.

And while at it, I might as well cover other areas. While teaching hygiene is important, you don't want to give them OCD. I washed my hands more than other kids, but not obsessively, and that made me seem weird to other kids. And "playing with food" shouldn't be an issue. It is harming nobody. You don't want to make mealtime too burdensome and full of a bunch of rules and control, or you might end up with a bulimic child - "They can tell me what to eat and how to eat it, but they can't force me to keep it down..." That's partly why eating disorders are bad among celebrities, since their mothers were typically overbearing. Celebs are often 2nd-3rd generation celebrities, and their parents may have been abused and turned to show business as an escape. But they often become overbearing to their own kids, and the need for the kids to have their own realm to control may drive them to eating disorders, or other things like hypochondria.
Parent

Dayton, OH

#202 Oct 29, 2014
Chilli J wrote:
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Whether you intend to discipline a child by spanking his or her underwear clad or bare bottom, that form of spanking demeans and embarrasses the child. It's a sick power trip some parents take that emotionally damages their child.
If you want to see a "sick power trip", then see YOUR POTUS...

Other than that, keep your ignorant libtard nose out of other people's live, dig it?

Spotted Girl

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Spotted World

#203 Oct 29, 2014
sadists wrote:
What kind of fcukin kids you raising.
fcukin foreigners!
You don't even know.......you've lost control
If you go overboard, you risk raising bullies, and bullies are a shame to their families. You don't want to send the message that if you don't like what others do, you have the right, or even an obligation, to physically assault them and beat them up.

But the key here is moderation and some sparingness. You don't use corporal punishment for everything, just deliberately rebellious acts. The younger that discipline in general is started (no, I don't mean spank a baby, but modeling good behavior and giving the kids reasons besides force to respect you), the less is actually needed. And care should be taken in 1-parent homes, since it is so easy to lose respect of the child and then feel the need to go overboard to try to get it back, and that creates repressed rebels, and could manifest in gang-involvement and violence against women.(That is not the only factor, but looking at just that, you might see that there are more single-parent kids and survivors of divorce having problems with violence and rebellion.)

Spotted Girl

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Spotted World

#204 Oct 29, 2014
A Noted Ferrerman wrote:
I like spanking little boys!
What about monkeys?

Spotted Girl

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Spotted World

#205 Oct 29, 2014
Chilli J wrote:
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Whether you intend to discipline a child by spanking his or her underwear clad or bare bottom, that form of spanking demeans and embarrasses the child. It's a sick power trip some parents take that emotionally damages their child.
Not always. Like I said, it should be done sparingly. One thing to keep in mind is to always do it in private.(So you hear some parents say in a store, "Don't make me take you to the car." Sometimes that warning is enough.) It is a family matter, and extending it beyond the family makes it more humiliating and should be avoided.

Not all parents do this out of a power trip. Some suggest that you give a time-out before resorting to corporal punishment. That time-out is for the parent as well as the child. The half-life of adrenalin is 4 minutes, so you don't want to make a decision while high on the adrenalin.
A Noted Ferrerman

Dayton, OH

#206 Oct 29, 2014
Spotted Girl wrote:
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What about monkeys?
I just wish I had one still...
a_visitor

Bethlehem, PA

#207 Oct 29, 2014
no need to take panties off, a couple o whacks with clothes on is suffice.
a_visitor

Bethlehem, PA

#208 Oct 29, 2014
A Noted Ferrerman wrote:
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I just wish I had one still...
you spank your monkey? that's bad.

“So it's not you, It's them?”

Level 9

Since: Jun 11

Location hidden

#209 Oct 29, 2014
Parent wrote:
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If you want to see a "sick power trip", then see YOUR POTUS...
Other than that, keep your ignorant libtard nose out of other people's live, dig it?
You might want to work on your reading comprehension, Moe. When they needed it, I spanked my kids, with their pants up. Since it floats your boat to spank a child's bare or underwear - clad backside, go for it, Uncle Lester! Lol
Sam

Dayton, OH

#210 Oct 29, 2014
Chilli J wrote:
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You might want to work on your reading comprehension, Moe. When they needed it, I spanked my kids, with their pants up. Since it floats your boat to spank a child's bare or underwear - clad backside, go for it, Uncle Lester! Lol
YOU might want to work on your libtardedness. When you figure out the REAL deal, let me know. Then we might actually be friends, but you have to have a grasp of REALITY, at least.
Roxie Darling
Level 6

Since: Jan 13

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#211 Oct 30, 2014
otk4u wrote:
In my opinion spanking with implements eg. wooden paddles, hairbrushes, canes and belts etc. is child abuse. In your own words you stated that child abuse is, among other things, when you leave bruises. Well trust me, you put a child over your knee and spank them on their bare bottom with an implement such as a paddle, I guarantee you're going to create bruising.
I firmly believe that over the knee spanking is an effective and appropriate means of punishment for a child. However, I don't see the need to bare the bottom unless of course you're trying to add humiliation into the process (that in itself in my opinion is child abuse). To me, the baring of a child's bottom for a spanking is done for the benefit of the sicko that does it. The thickness of a pair of panties will not make any difference to how the spanking feels to the child. A sound hand spanking over the panties will generate ample pain to get the message across.
I have two daughters one 11 and the other 13. On the very few occasions that I have had to spank them it has always been over my knee with dress raised and spanked over their panties firmly and briskly with my hand. This has always been an effective method for me.
Children learn more from what you are than what you teach.

Thanks for sharing what you're teaching your two daughters. You WILL reap what you' sow.

Keep that in mind.

“So it's not you, It's them?”

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Since: Jun 11

Location hidden

#212 Oct 30, 2014
Sam wrote:
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YOU might want to work on your libtardedness. When you figure out the REAL deal, let me know. Then we might actually be friends, but you have to have a grasp of REALITY, at least.
That would be MODtatdness, to you, CONbot! Friends? With you? I pick my few friends very carefully. Perhaps after/if you've been released from that FEMA camp you're slated for? Lol. Until then...need a friend...get a dog?:)

“So it's not you, It's them?”

Level 9

Since: Jun 11

Location hidden

#213 Oct 30, 2014
Spotted Girl wrote:
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Not always. Like I said, it should be done sparingly. One thing to keep in mind is to always do it in private.(So you hear some parents say in a store, "Don't make me take you to the car." Sometimes that warning is enough.) It is a family matter, and extending it beyond the family makes it more humiliating and should be avoided.
Not all parents do this out of a power trip. Some suggest that you give a time-out before resorting to corporal punishment. That time-out is for the parent as well as the child. The half-life of adrenalin is 4 minutes, so you don't want to make a decision while high on the adrenalin.
I'd suggest you and everyone else here should discipline your child as you see fit. My exes' new husband put large welts up and down my youngest son's backside and legs, on the way to a trip to an amusement (at the side of I-70.

When his school called me about it a week later, I picked up he, his brother and sister (I lived 2 states away) and refused to return them, in spite of a visit from my local Sherrif's Department and the Court Order she sought.

I showed the local Sherrif's Deputy the welts, still on his legs (now 2 weeks after the discipline and he told me not to worry about the Arrest Warrant he was there to serve. My ex, who insisted on the discipline, lost custody rights

Does every child who is spanked end up with welts? No. But this one did. I spanked my kids, over their clothes, to get their undivided attention. I also took away privileges, etc. To discipline them. I'm proud of how they turned out!

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